Emanuel

Man, do we meet? When? ; ) Tomorrow I will meet some Polish EOSHD user I crossed my life with over these same pages. He will be with his Fuji and I will be with my FX30 and some vintage glass, that is, if I will locally find an adapter till tomorrow... I am done with Amazon's local courier (CTT Express failed their delivery for today!).
Any pics from those setups BTW?
PS: Andrew could organise a meeting for those users interested to test my spoken English skills! LOL ;- )

I got the Vivitar 1 alteration of the Bokina. I'd call it the steelhammer version. It is so robust and tough. Mine has a ca 1/3" × 1/4" × 1/4" chunk of steel chipped off miraculously by a former owner, maybe in a steelhammer manner. It still operates like a charm. This lens is crazy regarding built. What a beasty lens. I have only used it once or twice many years ago. I must change that. Which Viv I lenses do you have? @Ninpo33We could do a Vivitar cinema verité piece or any kind of video and share it here.
I got the Bokina and a Vivitar 35mm 1.9, which I wouldnt consider in the same league as the Bokina. I'm pretty sure the 35mm is not a lens from the I series. The 28mm F2 looks beautiful. Must be a pleasure to hold and use.
It's a shame I left that gem collecting dust. As it comes to my mind, I even have a converter for it, changing it into a 60 or 65mm lens. This lens is a good reason for some solid tripod fun!
Back to topic. If the S1RII has a creamy look like a C500II with absence of oversharpening, it could be a tempting prospect of Gas. Better not.:)

Funnily enough, just found some pics from that evening. Days of innocence (kinda).

Why did RED Hydrogen fail?
Cost? It wasn’t that much more expensive than the top iPhone of its day.
Android rather than iOS? (Possibly the most significant reason I never used it as a phone - the photographs I took were fun).
The pre-sale hyperbole made it too easy to criticise?
Insufficient info relating to the expansion pins and the so-called (and never developed) cinema grade camera module?
Poor choice of manufacturer (who apparently promised more than they were able to deliver)?
Lack of mainstream interest/awareness of H4V/3D?
The in-built camera was certainly no better than other cameras in phones - immediately depriving it of any perceived advantage of being a RED? Expectation.
JJ’s habit of promising a rose garden (albeit inhabited by skulls) then problem after problem, waiting upon waiting… rather than low-key developing, low-key manufacturing and Big Hype delivering.
Design wise it was stunning. It received regular and significant updates. Yet it failed dismally. What lessons are there for any other camera manufacturer thinking along similar lines?
Don’t bother?

Their first 40mm 1.8 doesnt have L mount and have noisy AF, but seems that is all fixed up.
Just waiting for actual lens review on L mount camera before I jumped the ship

That's why the sales and marketing guys all burn out.
They don't have that underlying passion or talent for art, cinema, photography...
They get a kick from the affiliate links, channel building, glossy presentation, studio sets and meeting other influencers so that they can social network, and build further influence.
That's where Gerald spends his time rather than getting a kick out of pointing his camera at stuff.
 

Interesting fact - everybody thought they did the billboard stuff with Ai, but in fact they had to do it frame by frame themselves. Nice bit of film making, in my always humble opinion.

I mean, she can stand up in a car, but she ain't Sydney Sweeney.
 

@Emanuel I also love my FX-30. It just came back from 2 months in the camera hospital (a whole other story) but I just love that thing. A beautiful sensor and lovely ergonomics. And so relatively cheap! The C100 of its days.

That Osmo Pocket 3 is one of the most interesting devices I've ever owned, practically with me for everywhere and always ready for a ride like a crazy bitch! : ) Don't quote me, just a bot! ;- )

DJI do make cameras, they don't just try.  The Osmo Pocket 3 is, from what I've heard, one of the most popular cameras on the planet these days.  The Ronin 4D is also pretty excellent and the "chicken head" camera is becoming a staple on productions, both from low budget scrubs like me to Hollywood films that will play in theaters nationwide.

Even a Viltrox lens looks good thanks to her!

I’m in the middle of overreacting to Nikon implementing something on my camera that I was using on a competitors 8 years ago and they have stuffed it.  I know this shouldn’t be bothering me as much as it is. I really need to get out more.  Nikon: the Microsoft of cameras 🤦
The fact you can only use shutter angle in manual mode. Why?  Or at least let us set the minimum shutter angle in those modes ffs. Because otherwise the camera will happily shoot unusable 360degree shutter angle video in those modes.
(Please don’t post any variety of “real men only shoot manual”.  For what I do shooting in aperture priority is essential. It lets me get shots that would be impossible unless I’d have another operator ramping exposure.  I’m not shooting drama. It’s not controlled. I could do this on the gh5 ffs).  
 
 

I'd take 4k120 over 60p for slow-mo any day

Though not as popular as Space Karen thought they were.

My Nikon 28mm F1.4 AF-D will like that.
AFD still very popular in Germany.

I’d rather have a phone inside the Sigma BF.
But I bought a RED Hydrogen so what do I know… 

ProRes Raw/BRAW is what probably bypasses most of the rubbish processing, artifacts etc as with S5ii

Just seems like a massive chance to make money to me.
The smartphone market has peaked, and the high-end phones succeeded in selling at $1000+ by differentiating themselves mainly on the camera specs.
Now all the flagship phones are pretty much similar, not much innovation and Apple especially under Tim Trump have not come up with a new idea for ages.
It strikes me that if the camera is the most important thing about a phone, it should be a sign that maybe Canon, Nikon, Fuji are missing out on some hefty demand.
Canon should have a Powershot branded phone running latest CPU and Android, 1" sensor and a ton of features from their serious cameras on it, plus Canon's colour science and picture styles, which leave the Chinese phone manufacturers for dead.
Fuji should also do a similar thing, one with more style and imagination than whatever iterative shit Tim Woke But Trump is flogging year in year out. (Japan used to the lead the high-end phone market before Apple came along).
Sigma as well, aiming for a more Apple-like high-end product with amazing build quality.
So far camera companies in the smartphone market has been a branding exercise.
Leica with Huawei and more recently Xiaomi, but the actual hardware is all China.
Sony are the only camera company to have their Alpha features and software on a mainstream Android phone... Xperia 1 & 5 series.
But in typical Sony fashion these are general purpose daily driver phones that try to do a Samsung, rather than really pushing the camera forward into a new realm or the smartphone onwards into a new concept. In fact they have on recent flagships given up trying to be different at all and just gone full on samey.
Panasonic you may remember gave us the CM1. This had the right idea as far as software features and sensor size goes... Terrible implementation in terms of naff build quality, a screen that would scratch if you so much as sneezed at it, and a slow lens with even slower autofocus.
Nowadays the thin optics on a phone like the Xiaomi 14 series are capable of amazing things, like the really close-focus telephoto lens they offer on the higher-end models, and the very fast wide angle lenses that are super thin but cover a 1" sensor.
But if they really wanted to be brave they would come up with a camera-first, phone second product.
And that's where Fuji, Canon and the rest could really make something special.

Don't judge each day by the harvest you reap but by the seeds that you plant. ~ Robert Louis Stevenson

It's the only way to stand up against a fascist dictatorship, you can't do it like the democrats with their little slogans and signs, and Micro Four Thirds cameras... You have to have a warship, and a big bazooka on the front.

Another vote for the S5. I got mine used from Japan for $535 and it looks like new. They gave that camera a new life with the later updates too… I have mine as a B camera with a Ninja V+ on it because that last big update gave it raw 6k, 4k s35 and 3.5k anamorphic raw. So with the S9 you get all the latest lumix has to offer but the S5 makes a really sweet B and C cam now. And that sensor has such a nice look to it compared to the over sharpened S5ii. It’s not a big deal but I feel like it looks a little closer to the S1H. My only gripe is that they never really figured out how to do L-Mount speed boosters for Panasonic cameras. I emailed metabones 3 or 4 times and they never gave me a reason. I have been told there isn’t enough room but some of the other shorter flange distances work so who knows… luckily at this point we’re finally at FF 60p with no crop moving forward. I do however have the Kipon Focal reducer to adapt the Mamiya 645 lenses to the S5 so that’s been fun. Since AF isn’t the best I doubled down on vintage, manual glass. 
 
Second I would say the small bit mighty Fujifilm X-M5 at $800. 
 Like a baby X-H2s with quite the list of video record options. Ranked 8th best in DR tests by Cine D. And quite the image with 6.2k open gate and 60p/120p 4k. Rolling shutter can be a little bad in the open gate modes but there are some other faster options to choose from if that’s your priority. Also, the Raw output (6.2k 3:2 and 5.2k 60p) is unexpected in such a tiny and cheap camera. Just have to get a locking cable bracket because it’s micro HDMI. No IBIS so makes for a good drone cam or car mount/action cam and matches perfectly with the X-H2s. Fast data rate speeds and 4.2.2 color with F-Log options.
 
lens tangent: I have been using it with the little Blazar Nero 1.5x adapter for Anamorphic 6k and love the results. The Blazar is a little wild at full frame but for APS-C it looses the funky edges and looks a lot cleaner. Plus you can add it to your lens of choice and have fun with it. I’m adapting some 60’s Japanese rangefinder lenses to M mount and they pair really well with the Blazar. 
 

I can make a case for both such as say; single body with 24-70 vs two bodies, one on each hip, with say a 28 and an 85.
It's certainly more convenient to zoom, but it does mean a larger and heavier unit in your hands which over a typical 12-15 hour day, adds up and just isn't as enjoyable at any point throughout the day.
It's really when we get about 100mm that zooms tend to make more sense to me because we tend to have 85/90/105 and OK 135, but there isn't really much in prime land above 100'ish' compared with below.
At this point in time, I am in the 'one & done' camp, but that does require 3 lens changes albeit, not regularly.
Possibly, but right now I'd pick the S9 for video based on current spec and let's not forget the twist & tilt rear LCD.
I doubt even that would work my friend 😘

Understand the genre you are making, what works in the edit and what doesn't.
Most discussion of camera features is just noise coming from people that don't know what matters to them and what doesn't.