Emanuel

Horses for courses, they are different animals : ) R5 is a crippled hybrid, so they designed it with still photographers in mind because they have a range of higher price cameras for sale to filmmakers. Sad but no surprises here.

They didn't design a hybrid because they simply didn't want it. For obvious reasons. A pity. Our trade-off now is trying now how to take advantage from this gem, if possible, in order to overcome this overheating issue and their firmware cripple.

Not irony. We can always tend to be biased on our own viewpoints. So, we should try to practice self-criticism as much as we can : ) BTW, are you Italian or from Italian ancestry? I ask you because I try to understand you. Without mention as a disclaimer footnote, I love Italy, Italians and "our" culture. I am Portuguese but one of them by adoption for decades today.

Yeah, I follow the point, this can serve the topic. But, to call any different scope outside of his playground of Canboys, oh well, that's a way to underestimate everything you've just said. Andrew's legacy included. Without mention to bash someone's else standpoint instead. Not fair. Pure bias.

The way you elaborated your thinking much well structured BTW and you finish worried with Netflix... : D Man, how on earth would they or anyone refuse anything properly exposed from and with this camera?! ; ) In Portuguese from Brazil: "Não tem como!" né? @Márcio Kabke Pinheiro ;- )

That was funny! LOL :- )

I never thought I'd put a like in the same post of that guy up there... LOL : ) Only you to lead me there :- D

I've been watching this part 5. Almost 1 hour long... I quit when I realized it's a comedy after all! I thought it was a drama instead : D Both sides. In my country, we're used to say we cannot be more Popists than the Pope himself. Seems clear to me now the legal team or whoever wrote that disclaimer on limitation of liability had no single idea what was going on there. That's the finest example how standard-form contracts are actually illegal and nobody had the mercy to inform them! LOL (E :- )

You two have missed the party... : ) Take a second look on the previous page :- D

I mean RED, not other cases. Many others exist, I am sure. But, is there any successful case study out there to point out? I am curious. Right on the spot, thanks for summarizing my personal scope on it, very of my own too : ) The world is not B&W for Christ's sake! :- )

Agreed : ) My hope is they upgrade their firmware uplifting their recording limits and Tilta may prove to be able to diminish the heat in a way the user can extend the usage for 8K & 4K 120fps not for continuous recording, obviously, but definitely not for the brick all this hassle meant to be.

No clue on R6, only R5 interests me :- )

Yeah, there's a point there indeed. That one. People have the right to claim for their rights. The fact is they're not alone on this game to be honest. Many others do the same. But did anyone succeed to penalize them so far? They will surely say the same as other manufacturers in the past to comprehend design and assembling in their defense, very likely. In any case, this has damaged their reputation. The fact per se is subject to be liable for that. I guess Jinni.Tech cannot be afraid. They have how to prove it, isn't it? ; ) Even though, liability doesn't end there, it is a very serious match for both sides and costs money. I wouldn't surprise myself if the mountain laboured and brought forth a mouse in the tail end.

Have you ever considered the 5.1K route coupled to a speedbooster + EF lenses? They say it doesn't show overheating issues.

It is invariably the only way to put the legal system to work. People/companies just protect their own. No need for guns : X Law is the most civil and proper approach. This tells how respectful a business should be run.

Standard-form contracts are a plague but this is nothing about a single company. I protest against them practically in a daily basis and I don't need to tell the world there's a demon to kill. However, my point still stands in the same side as Jinni.Tech's for that matter. Trademark. It's a protected name and its usage. Obviously not for every single industry existent on planet earth. WIPO treaties gives anyone such right to fight for. If there are Courts to protect one side, this applies both ways. There's a principle in every legal system: equity. That is, there's no place to burn one side in the public square in advance.

Internet. Well, I am like Andrew, actually... This soap opera requires to be summarised : D In the meantime, there are still people focused to keep shooting... with great cameras, fortunately, there's where filmmakers express their feelings, not somewhere else : ) Great outcome BTW: :- )

Who did it? What is it?

I understand your observation. But RED's too. I see Jarred in the perspective of a manager. He could not be stuck nor silent. He has a crisis he has to deal with. RED's legal team has to protect their client's assets. This is a competent move from their end. Exactly because any lawsuit is a game card. RED customers can easily realize who is in charge. RED service tops because of Jarred, his skills and his talent to choose his team. As his friend for a decade and a half now, I am really proud of him. E :- )

The same clients will buy the mark II, so why to cut the revenue in a half? : D

This only means they have a capable legal team. When you'll go to the Courts, you're not there to lose the battle. I am proud of Jarred. E :- )

Tilta's options: :- )

Other than that, I guess he can handle it going along with 5.1K crop coupled to a speedbooster... ;- )

It is "massively unprofessional" going to any gig without more than a couple of camera units at least... ;- )

What about engineering filmmakers...? : D source Because of outcome from amateur hands like this sample here: :- )