Emanuel

Silliest because I left a laugh on your last post? ; ) You have no idea what art is and I am the one to produce silly stuff over and along this thread?! LOL : D Machines don't produce art. What part haven't you understand? :- )

Aside economics, art made by machines is not art. Period. Call it something else. Who doesn't understand that has no clue about what art is. :- )

What is a soul? Good question... It doesn't surprise me anything what we have today. Really : ) It's a natural technology evolution. So what? You mean consciousness will be hard work... Right : ) I meant unconscious and subconscious mind territories. Not tangible reading by physical means which includes machines is possible there at all. As said, I think ignoring human science lenses such as psychology or philosophy, among others, doesn't help... ; ) Let's see when we'll end up eating our words eventually or if ever ;- )

*Yes, the plural of species is species. We however are able to use it both with an "are" for plural as well "is" if used in the singular form. If we place an "a" before, it is not possible to use it as plural anymore ; ) The idea art can be not singular anymore is actually a contradiction of what the concept of art is. Is AI the killing procedure of art itself? Should we see AI as a threat to art then? I solidly don't think so. A mere tool. Just another one. No reinvention of the wheel : P Seems to me more a geeks meeting all this talk than anything else TBH. Looks like they've all been alerted about this thread LOL : D or then, filmmaking today is invaded by preachers of machines rather than those who realize what movies are really made of. Much distinct to write "made from" (I am on my English basics LMAO ; ) Not (only) technology per se, count on it! :- )

Sigh : ) To mimic human unconscious/subconscious?? Each man is unique. A machine is soulless. No binary digital language/system/world looks like to be able to match uniqueness. The same an animal species are able to be another one. Science estimates a range from 3 million to 100 million. Up, up. Only about 1.7 million species identified since last time the calculation has been shown/announced... Demographics say 109 billion people have lived in the course of 192,000 years. Has anyone ever succeeded to not distinguish one from another? Will it ever be possible? Singularity is part of the universe and this equation as much as art is impossible to impersonate as original when fake. Becomes a formula, no art anymore. I just guess you're watching so many Hollywood movies... : D - EAG :- )

*bother (but can be to worry me up once 'you' will spend a whole shooting day to hold 'the thing' in your hands)

So, I think you're giving solid grounds to your well balanced decision then : ) to fit your needs, taste and shooting style, you can only end fine : ) Hold one in hands in any case before to pull the trigger 'cause practice is a much different challenging reality as we all know :- ) More than size is the body weight to bothers me perhaps, I guess.

The portrait orientation is a good excuse/reason : ) Better heat management to my needs makes a perfect sense despite that replacement time frame already mentioned. The Z8 with the grip add-on is a 2-in-1 solution though... I think it depends how much you estimate you'll use the grip ;- )

Of course, no objection : ) All you said stands. The Achilles heel to those who feel more comfortable with and don't feel a smaller and lighter camera unit an inferior form factor, but on the contrary. R5C is the one to tell us they're coming, I guess. Hence I believe Z8 is yet more prone to be less outdated than its heavier counterpart anyway. For some reason they've launched it. My only beef has a name Z9 doesn't probably share. The concern on overheating issues. Reason why the case here at my own for an eventual adoption is on standby. Not ruled out yet.

Also, sorry me again (better to let it written here before any hater will come to ask me to learn the basics of psychology other than only the English idiom LMAO : D) but those Wikipedia entries are too much poor, so once I guess in a filmmaking forum, psychology makes all the sense not only technology, here is a better one: https://diversity.social/unconscious-vs-subconscious/ I actually incline to see how this whole talk about AI lacks of some other fields of science like we only have exact sciences... and this is a big fail IMO :- )

* subliminal (sorry for the use of a non-English word up there!) It's all about nuances. A bit like language and the way electronic translators work or on decoding thinkers speech. Put ChatGPT to try to do it... It's not chess! ;- )

Interesting stuff, no doubts : ) But I think there's something you've missed from kye's entry. The figurative speech : ) And no, I'm not thinking you're a machine :- ) On the contrary, I praise your human input. People comment people. Not so sure the will stands with AI : D ; ) Which applies for the world of affections and between the lines where art as for instance pops up -- humans are able to. Will machines be able to compete at the same level? I have my doubts. There's a subliminar world I still think is science fiction yet to see computers understand and incorporate it. Psychology (people who did the film school I attended had it) tell us there's the unconscious and subconscious components of human mind. Soul... : X Even atheism has no name for... LOL ; ) Will they be able to match it? I have my sincere doubts this will ever be possible. (yeah, the territory where the philosophical problem of faith flows too and philosophy is not an empty science neither psychology ;- )

I agree with all the points made. Same wondering here. Z8 or Z9? Z9 has that advantage on better cooling for sure. The disadvantage is the Achilles heel though. The form factor, the size and weight. With smaller and lighter intros each year more often (R5C is the proof they get it), you'll tend to see the need for the replacement of a Z9 than the Z8. That's the estimation made as conclusion to my view. I don't actually think may end unfair to infer such assessment : ) Really.

Other than overheating ; ) I just think who will buy a Z9 rather than a Z8 will replace it much earlier very likely...

Will never be replaced. The same way painting didn't when the camera was invented.

I love them! Which means that magenta too LOL : D Didn't pull the trigger yet though... That Z8 overheating alert freakes me out a bit...

My birthday: October 17... Yours? :- )

Me too @kye... And @eatstoomuchjam BTW, I meant 12K. There's no room for further updates, the only choice there it is not fail on the chosen configuration to buy. No room for 2nd chance once purchased. Yes, Q0 will demand for more resources but also 12K @ 75 fps going with Ursa Mini Pro 12K 2.4:1 as for instance... I wonder when the things will become choppy versus the use from internal SSD.

Is it possible on most recent Mac with unified memory? Even dealing with high resolution video files?

It is Resolve but the idea is to guarantee the minimum configuration savings for internal SSD. And taking advantage of the Thunderbolt port(s) to connect the external SSD storage in order to have access to high resolution video files from there where Resolve will operate.

Clever ; ) Loved the sausages part! LOL : ) This is what a real production means as conforming creative choices to the stuff we have in hands... Well done again in this yearly tradition of yours, it will surely be appreciated by the local community :- ) ¡Felices fiestas de Navidad! - EAG

No games nor leisure stuff, only work related which translates to software and those files you mention in such directories. Not easy to mantain the system much clean to avoid those issues without many skills on computing and alike? I mean because I am not Apple user yet despite a couple of equipment around for home use, but as far as I could understand, the idea is they offer understanding of its maintenance under the regular user viewpoint or am I wrong on this one?

I'm afraid so, hence my question... I wonder not only because their expensive SSD storage but what else is left other than external storage route via thunderbolt?

Gracias for your wishes, amigo, always welcome as usual! To you too! Emanuel :- ) PS -- Funny the style this year... any special reason for the slowmo and drone shots approach?

No worries Andrew, c'mon I know but I appreciate your care. You know, I have to let it clear. Seems we cannot make a long story short now from that information you've just posted, I see now even longer than I thought... ; ) I hadn't read it yet. Really. No problem, I understand your editorial standpoint : ) And it's fairly expectable when pops up certain crappy attempts to flood it with spam over our heads. Here is an example you now point out. I hadn't seen yet that post by that "Herrham" making a racist joke addressed to some man/target based on such biblical name connected with a "very dumb horse"... : P Impressive. Very creative. When arguments lack. A charm. Had you/we ever noticed any post coming from same source before? Of course not! Or maybe the OP right there in that thread?! haha It is a single post and straight addressed to me... WOW What an honour! LOL It's not hard to make the connection with my entries there along in that exact thread, where anyone can easily clear up what side I am and why certain obscure poster who decided to join on November 28 and took a precious time to write a lame single ad hominem attack against this humble scribe here of yours... Sounds easy when there's no ban hammer back. On November 28, same date, last visited : X Yes, it is suspicious but to each their own. Seems someone I somehow may have hurt with my opinion and input wanted to drive me silent. End of story. So, the same concern you have I share it with you. Of course, we may choose different camera topics to talk about. Also because we have different needs, obvious actual separate routes of life, professional ones of our own, of course, your focus can be another one and mine a distinct one. I think we usually tend to pay attention to what fits our current scope. If we want to look for a certain type of gear, we are not focused on something which can constitute the main subject of your editorial line. And I certainly respect this. I cannot guess before you say it. Once alerted I can only show to you my cooperation and clarification. It's not an essay, Andrew, even though every single individual has a style of his/her own. I figure out you want to express your care that I may not feel it personally. I don't. That's all OK! As written and very sincerely, I follow your concern and you can check I even ended attacked when doing the same to address such identical concern of yours. That said and now as part of your audience and fellow user who appreciates to be here with you and share your passion, I'd truly love you could not leave out of your radar such lovely promise Ace Pro and Back-Bone releases look like to be. No less for GoPro releases each year. Let's not confound it with crappy copycats, these manufacturers don't deserve their treatment IMO, far to be. Take a look on your diligence about shooting raw video on a mobile phone... to only mention this typical case of your enthusiasm we cannot particularly or evidently demand but hope for. As someone who also wrote there and a couple of us concurred immediately after, if not other, for fun -- isn't it the first reason why we are here, after all? Yes, not all oh yeah, but I am glad I still know who and where I am ; ) :- )