Emanuel

What version @kye? G2 or the previous one? The more I use their cameras, the more I appreciate this brand. - EAG :- )

Who here too? These manufacturers we're used to praise here other than - maybe - a few if any? (for some reason Blackmagic cameras are a graceful exception with their intuitive user interface) ...are killing the pleasure of photography. This is a science and art born a way before these idiots have been born. We only need three commands to control aperture, shutter speed and sensitivity. Eventually a SINGLE menu for electronic/feature/recording modes when applicable such as AF, stabilization, etc., and that's it! Full stop. Other than that, go to hell with your bloody menus! End of story. Users need time for the craft in order to develop creative skills and create stuff, not handling electronics strictly proper of a moron or a geek in the photography world. Pick one but don't call yourself a shooter.

Form. The guy says form is worthless. And at same time, the basics of any beginning as sorta raw material that it is. There are two 'Yes' and 'No' options. The fourth is made for those ones informed but not endorsing it ; ) The only bias I see or can accept is when the OP : D calls them old school... which is actually different to infer those people as old fashioned anyway. Hence the ecletic meaning of the use of the term old school there. : P Old school is for informed people being the OP one of them ; ) However, this doesn't mean an old school guy cannot adopt a promising technology like this one. So, not everyone of them are represented there. If this is a biased opinion, let's embrace the bias then! LOL ;- )

Let's go then. Where's the bias? You accurately pointed out the 1st ones. The third option is for those who haven't heard about it but are not so much impressed to give it a try. The fourth one is clearly addressed to those who don't give a damn. Don't get where grammar applies here... Looks to me a bad review of Yeats' poetry based on his Irish ancestry instead. The example to pop up to my mind now. Old school in this context means a strict mindset on topic where people who tend to see it as a mere hype, don't see any valuable use nowhere. So, a position also represented (*with)in the poll. We can obviously include many variables (as happens above-posted by a third hand too BTW). Give the same script to distinct directors, you'll have different movies. The point is when people who have added zero to the equation just for the sake of the topic, come to criticise without adding anything to the discussion either. Thanks for your polite reply, - EAG :- ) * English grammar (like any other language grammar proper of any communication code) is dynamic. Nothing about that : ) A bit like elitism... leads to no place (I could use it 'nowhere' again but no skills beats the essence of it. Have you ever watched it? I invite you then ; )

Really? What about that then? Let's spill your beans... what stops you to add anything value to the topic instead, mmm?! ; ) I simply hate when lazy people who have just added zero to any discussion come to simply criticize whoever (it's meaningless to be me BTW, trust me, but that gives me more right to address to the critical voice these words now) with none grounds to their claim. Pity you were not my student at University or Polytechnic or you'd have to repeat the academic year... Now you know what I have to say to you for the subject matter, I invite you to drop your trousers and let us know what polls you are capable to offer! Phew : X

Where? Can you post a link, please? :- )

Very true... : ) I have found those APS-C format 16mm & 20mm f/2.8 pancake native lenses both interesting options to also take advantage on Clear Image Zoom/crop modes on Sony FF side too, though. People are used to criticize the optical performance in the corners but character and form factor are no less priceless aspects to consider especially when handling motion.

...in these last decades as ever before or will, at least about the medium as we've known so far...

Here's my take: Any other lovers of yours? :- )

and here's a solution for the remainder ones:

*among many others, i.e., any device where motion data is recorded by the camera.

What's your shot for the sake of it? Or you'd rather have it in-camera? (let alone the use of gimbal for other topic, right? ; ) Gyroflow is free and keeps your stuff untouched (if we can call it like that! : D) Note: going on Catalyst browser, you just need to open your wallet there... For some other interesting input on topic with some additional and useful cameraman techniques, click the link. In the BMD world: https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=203401 And here is some tutorial somehow RED's related, among any device where motion data is recorded by the camera.

Yup, night and day ;- )

Ready for mainstream : ) However, doesn't beat Filippo Chiesa's GH5s entry to promote such a GH series camera release IMO (BTW, as you've recently recalled, dai...). https://www.promirrorless.it/pro-mirrorless/filippo-chiesa-a-lavoro-con-panasonic-gh5s

Dreamy, dreamlike*... is another kind. *where 24fps is only part of the equation - EAG :- )

haha but it's that infamous 50fps you were used to praise here, remember? ; ) I like to have it at disposal though... lots of details, opens a bunch of distinct routes such as hybrid use for fashion, large format print, etc., straight from video stream to also stills use at same time, for example. Motion blur and softness (for some reason people are addicted to bokeh) is key for cinematic outcome anyway. - EAG

WTH... and my people at home think we are all insane for camera related stuff : D Well, at least we do it by written! LOL : P

Well, I hadn't done the homework for the FX3 just for the simple reason I have focused myself on the FX30, even though I presumed with active cooling shared on both I thought they would have been fairly similar beyond the obvious differences as far as sensor size format factor concerns. Much appreciated and useful your heads-up as usual :- )

Very true, well stated : ) Reason why that mention to the FX30 BTW. I've just bought one because seems they have succeeded where others fail. However, as you said with Panny example and @kye has written, no excuses unless for overcharges with one more accessory to sell like hotdogs, they bet : D

*FX3

Not exactly. As far as people report, no overheating issues straight from F3/FX30 cine line... Neither R5C. So, to me it's even much more critical the Z8 case study, isn't it? ; ) Even though I guess they are not in the mood for hybrid devices despite the success of FX30 (S35 + APS-C two in a single one) over F3 for that purpose. :- )

These guys are nuts! ...when we can have access to competent cinema cameras for a grand and a half today. For purchase not rentals.

I dunno... Not too much orange and teal there for something apparently fresh and new?

PS: I wrote attempt right there because as far as the reviewer hints this will only help a bit on the most demanding recording modes... How much improve it will be is something yet to be responded in further testing from those distinct fan and recording option modes and respective circumstances. But TBH stands as a fair concern no less.

Yup, I've just seen it: Looks like an interesting attempt for issues which made me completely away from the predecessor and Z8 either. So, go imagine how much they have lost with a glass addicted like me... LOL ; ) Here's Gordon's written input, I like this guy because he is oldschool as far as his approach concerns. Who needs any different route? ;- ) https://www.cameralabs.com/canon-eos-r5-mark-ii-review/