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Whoa !!! You've actually made some superb observations. If it was supposed to work initially, and suddenly not work anymore, Without giving any Actual Reasons behind this ("... However, specification changed and and it will not be compatible with Leila's existing L-mount cameras."), it seems to be, IMHO, a Permanent Problem. I didn't even notice the magnitude of the Problem. Leica has been milking some strange mount camera system, where they engage Panasonic to make cameras for them with a very niche market. The cameras and bodies are both ludicrously priced (like most things made by Leica). And suddenly Panasonic believes it would be easier (and better?) to adopt this mount and move to Full Frame from here, instead of creating a Full Frame mount from scratch, thereby addressing issues with the l-mount, to be begin with. The problem is Leica won't let them make zoon lenses that are less expensive (one of the hallmarks of M43 and Panasonic ILCs), unless they are like f4 or slower. And they won't allow them or Sigma or whoever else, to make any nature of adaptor, to ensure that similar zooms are Never Compatible with the L-Mount (Leica or Panasonic or even probably a Sigma Camera, if it were to ever be made with that mount). Does it mean users will be forced to use Prime Lenses where one needs brighter lenses if one cannot afford the Leica's unaffordable pricing. I personally find the f2.8-4 lens to be a bad mix of not being bright enough, and yet Also lacking a Constant f-stop (and also terribly priced, as in the case of Leica). In that sense, atleast the Samsung 16-50mm f2-2.8 seemed like a much better variable aperture lens. It was very bright at one end atleast. Does it also mean that users should not expect Panasonic or Sigma, to ever make f2.8 zoom lenses for the l-mount (or till such time as all leftover Leica Stock of Zooms have been sold and a cooling has been allowed)? Leica hasn't been making many/any f2.8 zooms, and the f2.8-4 zooms don't seem to be intended for the S1 and S1R target audience, atleast due to the pricing (and also due bad autofocus in video, according to some user reviews). Interesting for a Lens System that has 42 Lens Roadmap by the end of 2020.

Aah, very interesting. Though that, unfortunately, limits the zoom options (because of the bad pricing).

Once all the various L-Mount Sigma lenses are released the S1 (and S1 R) will become superb Photography and Videography tools. Their prices seem a lot more accessible (and interestingly, all are primes?).

Absolutely. A staggering 15.5 stops of dynamic range, excellent low light capabilities, 100MP, multiple options for downressing with various combinations of sub-sampling (never even imagined before), way lesser (predicted) rolling shutter, excellent high speed shooting options, 16-bit options for photo and video, ... the list is almost endless. If Sony makes a camera that is as capable as this sensor, it would be terribly unfair to everyone else. And if they could have one version with a nice compact body, without costing a kidney, I would love to buy one of those. As would (hundreds of) thousands of others.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. It IS 2 generations behind Sony (or 4). Maybe Canon should just put aside their ego, and just pick up Sony sensors. The difference 12 and 15.5 Stops is HUGE. Plus that 16-bit advantage would help push shadows and highlights like nothing else around. Plus this sensor would easily outperform most (or all current) Medium Format sensors (atleast in that 60MP resolution equivalent chart).

Not really earth shattering Dynamic Range for a Full Frame Sensor, especially considering that the ISO performance is also rather mediocre. Is this sensor like 2 generations behind Sony?

Wouldn't it require (a lot) more processing power too, for better noise reduction. And what about dynamic range? From the few videos posted online, the video profile seemed very contrasty. It also seemed to be the exact opposite of a log profile, and had a very low bitrate too, and therefore was not a good example for highlighting the capabilities of the sensor. Maybe once they figure these things out, we'll tually get to see the capabilities of the sensor (and processing).

Sigma is probably working overtime to make it. Most likely Panasonic promised some imaginary lens, and then ran to Sigma to make good on its association. It's possible that the final lens will have different design elements.

The autofocus will be decent, not great. Someone on some forum shared a screenshot (from Imaging Resource or Dpreview.com?) between the S1 and the Canon, and the S1 didn't seem to that that strange noise that PDAF (and imperfect processing to cover the focus pixels) seemed to exhibit. I would like to see a face off between Panasonic and the other Mirrorless Full Frame camera on: 1. Maximim usable ISO in photo and video. 2. Quality of photos zoomed in 200-400% 3. Dynamic range comparison (in both Photo and Video) 4. How the video holds up in post (with and without VLog, when it comes out in June?). 5. Weather and dust resistance. 6. Photo and video stabilization, and many stops of stabilisation in photos and how stable for video the stabilisation actually is (the Sonys seem pretty bad for walking). 7. Maybe a colour and quality comparison between the various JPEG (and RAW) photos. 8. Size and handling comparison. 9. Comparison of lens lineup including quality and prices for comparable lenses.

Actually the S1 has superb noise reduction algorithms, and probably great sensor design (and calibration). They should probably have added very light grain, to the short film and made it more Filmic. I wonder how much they will change for the VLog, and what what the bitrate increase will be post VLog. The S1 already costs more and weights more than other Mirrorless full frame cameras in its class.

I don't know about NAB, but Blackmagic and Olympus could do with a Good Collaboration. Olympus could get superb video features abs great codec, and Blackmagic could finally have weather-proofing and IBIS. The next iteration of the Blackmagic Pocket should be 30% Smaller, with IBIS, fully articulating Smaller Screen (3.5inches), and weather sealing. The battery life will increase atleast 50% if not 100% automatically, when using a smaller screen.

Not really a video powerhouse with the 8-bit 4-2-0. They could have increased the price slightly and atleast added 10-bit 4-2-0 internal. I noticed that it was named G99 in Japan, and suddenly realised we could be looking at a lower range camera, with much lower video specs. It seems a little disappointing.

I think Panasonic panicked with the release of the XT3. This is like a mini GH5 with (I am guessing) 10-bit 4-2-0 (instead of 4-2-2) video. It has unlimited video recording and VLog. Unfortunately it is still VLog L, which means the GH6 will be the first M43 camera to get the Full VLog. I hope the HD bitrate is good. The weather sealing is a great addition even if the body doesn't seem to be very metallic. I am guessing the new lens is also weather sealed. This has to be cheaper than the XT3. So I am guessing $1099 or lower. If it is $999 I could pick up two instead of a more expensive new system (S1?), with much bigger body and a lot more expensive lenses. Hopefully the stills burst mode has been improved along with tracking too. This has IBIS as an advantage over the XT3. But that had probably much better autofocus in photo and video, along with better low light. PS: I noticed on 43rumors.com, that this has Dual Card slots. I am right. Panasonic panicked with the release of the XT3. That one really is a video monster. And pretty capable with Photography too. It also probably means that Panasonic won't be abandoning M43 after all. Good news.

Return that one Immediately. It doesn't have a Screen/LCD. Instead it had some stupid blinking lights of different colours like a smartphone, though the colours and clinking patterns are already pre-programmed. Plus I don't believe it has a broadcast quality mic built-in.

Interesting size and the fact that they claim it has a built in broadcast quality mic built in (Built-in omnidirectional condenser microphone delivers broadcast-quality sound) that can record in challenging and less than ideal conditions. Main features: • All-new Series III 2.4GHz digital wireless transmission with 128-bit encryption designed to deliver crystal clear audio under any conditions, even in locations with dense Wi-Fi and Bluetooth activity like shopping malls, conventions, hotels etc • Up to 70m range (line-of-sight), but optimised for shorter-range operation in congested radio-frequency environments • TX and RX have built-in rechargeable batteries, charged via USB-C •"Up to 7 hours on a full charge, including a battery-saver mode • Super-lightweight and ultra-compact: TX is 31g and RX only 31g • The transmitter and receiver pair in just 3 seconds • 3-stage output pad: 0, -6dB and -12dB • RØDE’s market-leading smartLav+ (with an SC3 adaptor), Lavalier microphone and HS2 headset microphone are perfect companions for the Wireless GO when used as a beltpack (and sold separately) • Use up to 8 systems in one location. http://www.rode.com/wireless/wirelessgo

What's the mount? Any guesses of the pricing? I could use these for photography if they have enough dynamic range. ???

Whoa that's a monster of a CFA and binning setup combination.

Yes. It does have a separate ToF sensor. It's not Nokia 9 level, but much better than before.

Very aggressive processing and a lot of cheating in the Image Fusion but. A perfect middle ground would be something between 1/2.55 inch and 1inch in terms of sensor with more like 20MP and a super bright lens. The CM1 had a weak processor and the Android platform itself wasn't ready for something like that. With the last processors and DRAM, a 1inch sensor in a smartphone right now could be a winner. Like the NX1, it was probably too ahead of it's time. And Panasonic smartphones aren't exactly cutting edge, either. The P30 Pro is as good as the P20 Pro and ot a hair better. It has more zoom but it isn't smooth, and the periscope in it seems to have less resolution at varying levels of zoom. Which is suspicious to say the least.

I am not sure why they have it every year instead of every other year. Plus shortening the total numbers of days of exhibition too. Yearly seems like a short product cycle for flagship cameras like the GH series and others. Panasonic could announce the GH6 this year and release it sometime next year, to ensure that its customers don't move away from M43.

True. I would have said $1000, but Panny may not be able to allow for limitless recording and 10-bit 4-2-0, apart from the headphone jack. The GH5 has dual card slots, multiple recording options, huge battery life, and some amazing dual stabilisation options too. But the GH5 has a 2-3 year old sensor now, which needs improvement in areas like low light and colour science, among others. The video dynamic range also needs working on. Panasonic must IMHO start with moving away from the 8-bit 4-2-0 codec.

I hope they charge $1200 and give us: 1. Unlimited recording time. 2. 10-bit 4-2-0 internal. 3. A few flavours of VLog and bitrate options. 4. 120fps. 5. Better autofocus in video. 6. A 20(/+) sensor with improved RAW. 7. EVF being slightly better. 8. Headphon jack. Though it's a hardware thing and if they haven't implemented it, it won't make it. The XT3 is like $1500 (probably $1399 and below at few places now), and is a monster for video and stills. Panasonic can only beat or equal that camera in video performance, at a slightly lower price point. They should try and make the most of it. I am bored with the 8-bit 4-2-0 regurgitated from every camera ever made.

And then that whacko who drives around in a Lamborgini with probably the deposits or advance money of customers, posted a Private Chat between him an Bloom. It was So Freaking Shady (and abuse of any kind of gentleman's understanding). And then when people start pointing him out, he sneakily deleted the post with the chat. And his rant hasn't stopped yet. I've always found the company to be a bit of a Ponzi scheme. I saw many customers pointing that their products were Chinese re branded ones with grossly increased pricing. And this whole attitude outburst was shocking and absolutely unnecessary. https://www.newsshooter.com/2019/03/16/cinemartin-to-close-due-to-bankruptcy/#disqus_thread

Also, apparently, the bitrate isn't very high. I hope Samsung allow for a few bitrate options as well as complete manual control over video.

I am guessing this has a 2nd page too. Mayne you could share that for more details about the sensor. Looks pretty kickass. Especially with the 16-bit.