Andrew Reid

How much footage do you plan to shoot? Raw is 12 minutes per 64GB card, so you will need to be apt at dealing with the data and have time for the workflow.   However the cameras that do raw in your price range all have moire (50D, 7D, Blackmagic).   If you already have a 7D, raw is worth experimenting with. Big leap in image quality over the factory settings, and the moire is much less severe, but if you need no moire at all then the GH2 or G6 are the best options and significantly cheaper than other cameras.   The GH3 has hardly any moire but still slightly more than the GH2 and G6. The sensor downsampling creates moire but the use a low pass filter on the output to minimise it. It has less aliasing than the GH2 and G6.   What lenses do you plan to use?

Likely not faster as they are the older DIGIC 4 chips from 2009, but the write speeds are similar (91MB/s and up) so good for continuous raw shooting later.   Still only at silent pics burst mode stage.   Moire like 50D but easily reducible in post or with VAF, it only affects the very highest frequencies.   Not better than 5D Mark III but definitely heading for second place!

Too much trolling in this thread.   You have one guy who mentions his C100 love relationship in EVERY POST on this forum.   You have another saying ridiculous libellous things about BMD going out of business.   If you can't improve the quality of contributions, then I will relieve you of posting duties and raise the average post quality two full notches for the rest of us.

  Solid reasoning, after all I can't think of any other camera that does uncompressed 1080p raw to 95Mb/s cards with no fan.   http://vimeo.com/66033769

Let's see if all the happy sounding punters come back in 12 months on the forum when they still don't have a camera. Then we will see how they really feel.

  Hmm. You forgot to add staff wages, marketing, taxes, a cut for the dealer, shipping costs, firmware development, R&D, fluctuations in raw material prices and the low shipping volumes.   I think they are doing another bait and switch.   mFT BMCC was one of those. QUICK put a passive mFT mount on it! Too many people on our BMCC EF waiting list!   Like with the mFT version it could be some time before 10,000 people get to own a $1995 BMCC.   A Blackmagic rep recently hinted at 20,000 Pocket camera orders.   Good luck filling those at 100 a month!

  That's not what I'm picking up on. Good for the industry is another subject. You said people wouldn't be annoyed if Canon dropped their Cinema EOS prices.   Why is it these days people are incapable of arguing on the point without throwing in loads of straw men?   We need a straw man bonfire!

The Nikon Speed Booster will take the 50mm F1.8. It takes all Nikon glass not just G. They all have a standard Nikon F mount, the old AI/S glass as well. The difference is with the G lenses that the aperture needs to be controlled by a ring on the adapter or via the camera body. The Nikon Speed Booster has the ring on the adapter. It has no electronic contacts.

  It isn't the same.   The situation is that people have waited almost a year for their orders to be delivered, and just after they ARE finally delivered they knock $1000 off the price and they come into regular stock to pick up off the shelves. If you can't appreciate how frustrating that is for some people, then you're a lost cause.

  Very interesting, thanks for pointing this out.   This might be how they get less aliasing on the GH3's sensor compared to the older GH2 / G6 one.   But the low-pass filter needs to be stronger as they now have more moire.   The other possibility is that the new sensor is actually NEW and in the GX7 for the first time and maybe it will have killer video performance and the sensor is by Panasonic, will end up in a GH X1 which shoots ProRes. That would be sensible.

1. Yes. Look to Hot Rod Cameras or Ceicio 7 on eBay for the adapter   2. Active mount has advantage of being compatible with all mFT glass that has electronic aperture control or fly-by-wire manual focus or stabilisation. None of the Lumix or Olympus lenses work on the passive mount. Only SLR Magic and Voigtlander manual stuff without electronic contacts work on it.

They're from ReWo http://content.rewotechnic.de/?page_id=81

For Nikon G glass you need the Nikon Speed Booster. For Leica-R and CY you can use those via an adapter on the Metabones EF Speed Booster so that is worth waiting for if you plan to use a variety of glass, including M42 and Olympus OM too.   Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 might be beautiful on the Speed Booster. I will try it out soon on the Nikon version + GH3.

Compressed raw will be Cinema DNG 2:1

  Great solution! OH hang on where did I put my sensor lab, firmware programmers and last but not least my spanner.

In day light I prefer the 5D's image in raw as well. Full frame rendering of the glass, smoother fine detail and less false colour speckles, less moire. Rolling shutter isn't as severe either, and crop mode comes in very handy when you want to grab a quick telephoto shot on a standard prime.   Both are a league ahead of the usual DSLR video quality though. Hell they are a league ahead of FS100 as well.

Lots of duplicate threads on this topic now, so locking one.

  You are right, and same thing murdered the TV industry.   Most people are happy with what they have.   Tiny little incremental product updates year-on-year give people no reason to upgrade!

  How does this in any way effect your 5D Mark III purchase? They are quite different cameras. The 5D Mark III has a much larger sensor, better suited to the EF mount glass you will use on it. It is much cleaner in low light and the form factor is better. It is much lighter, runs for hours on a tiny internal battery, has no fan, uses small CF cards, gets constant firmware updates and takes 22MP professional quality stills. Blackmagic have their work cut out to compete with it.

Blackmagic CEO Grant Petty has today mapped out the company's camera roadmap. The Blackmagic Cinema Camera has a new aggressive price point. A drop of $1000 to the price of a Canon 6D - $1995. Active mount version of Blackmagic Cinema Camera mFT on the way, making existing model obsolete Next firmware V1.5 will add new features [url=http://www.eoshd.com/content/10931/blackmagic-price-drop-by-a-third-on-cinema-camera-and-active-mount-mft-camera-on-the-way]Read the full article here[/url]

The dual-CPU Canon 7D is one step closer to the tantalising prospect of raw video today. The main developer at Magic Lantern A1ex has found the raw buffers and silent pictures are working. Further work is required to port the raw video module. [url=http://www.eoshd.com/content/10925/magic-lantern-raw-video-in-development-for-canon-7d]Read the full article here[/url]

According to CIPA, Japanese shipments of cameras are down 47% year-on-year. That's a bleak figure, although there aren't the kind of big product releases so far this year that there were in the first half of 2012. However I think it's too easy to blame smart-phones or to mention product cycles as the reason for this decline. What about the actual cameras? In my opinion everyone seems to be making strange product decisions that I doubt serve either shareholder or their customer. [url=http://www.eoshd.com/content/10907/on-trying-to-understand-canon-and-blackmagics-strategy-on-cameras]Read the full article here[/url]

Looks nice.   Great to see someone put 2 years of effort into an iPhone app rather than 2 minutes worth :)   Either Apple will buy his code, or the will simply put an embedded JPEG processor in the next iPhone and a faster camera module. 20fps burst modes with electronic shutter are already possible even in smartphones.

  Image quality doesn't just come down to sensor size and bitrate.   In this case it will depend on how the sensor is sampled.   The GH3 does a good job of downsampling the sensor and the Panasonic image processor does a good job of processing / debayering it.   On the NEX cameras this capture process is mediocre to say the least and there's a lot of aliasing and moire. Check out my NEX 5N vs GH2 comparison on Vimeo.

  Ah hold on. In that picture the Contax Zeiss pancake is mounted on a 4/3 camera not a Micro 4/3 camera. The adapter for mFT will add a good 40mm or so to the size of the pancake. Not ideal.