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Hey everyone, It's been a very busy week, but I did manage to create and upload a new free music track to share with the community. You'll find it on my Puzzle Music 8 page: "BOUNCE LIGHT 3 " https://soundimage.org/puzzle-music-8/ Btw, the tracks on these pages can be used for all kinds of things besides puzzle games...that's just the first genre that comes to mind when I create them. Give them a listen! 🙂 CUSTOM MUSIC Need some custom music created for your project? Well, they say if you want something to get done, give it to someone who's busy...and that would definitely be me. I work with multiple clients all the time so feel free to email me if you need help. My contact info is here: https://soundimage.org/custom-work/ Ogg MUSIC PACKS are here: https://soundimage.org/ogg-music-packs-2/ https://soundimage.org/ogg-game-music-mega-pack/ And a brand new video preview of my Ogg Music Mega Pack is here: https://youtu.be/W7yQVscjqUM?si=ZOALTyvdNwr0Wox9 It runs about an hour and is actually kind of fun to listen to while doing other stuff. Give it a try! In the meantime, please stay safe and keep creating awesome stuff.

It's my favourite lens for video. Easily. Has been for I think this is the third year with it? Maybe the 4th, - since it was launched anyway. It's under 500g, barely extends, fixed aperture, works like a 42-105 in crop mode, has some character and...well what is not to like really? You can keep your much larger and heavier 24-70's! The Tamron 28-75mm f2.8 is just as viable and I have that also. For stills this year and last, though if I switch to Nikon or Sony for video next year, will use that instead.

That 28-70 is just so versatile for it's size. I really want to shoot with primes, but similar to you it seems, the flexibility of that zoom is just too good to ignore most times. I keep the 20-60 close by if I need to go wider, but I've been eyeing that 18mm.

There's also something else to add as point I guess, the fact they tend to each year launch a new version à la GoPro business model and they're not always a jump as far as specs/performance concerns. Despite the fact sometimes they bring some valuable tool as said above — it's the case of X5 this year, as for instance. Osmo Pocket 3 is yet another (revolutionary) case study... (I seriously don’t get how every member here keeps forgetting to carry a unit — especially considering it should be second nature to pocket it as soon as we stand up!) and IMHO is not even an action camera... (well, DJI has named another series on purpose, so I guess I am not so distant from reality). Without mention, it's all about the content produced, no less : ) 360º or even 180º VR cameras can often be used as action cams, but that’s not their primary purpose I tend to see. Stereo 3D is there to remind us (they’re not listed up there, so I guess they don’t really fit in this category ; ) Still, it makes sense to include the 360º devices here, as they now fall within the scope of the discussion. A single thread is useful to not spread too much in many directions when the debate on these small devices can be focused and enriched here. Even though drones are somewhat related, they’re still a separate topic. They could be excluded from this discussion due to factors like legal implications, only to provide an example of something not necessarily related to this subject. Plus IIRC there’s already sufficient information on them here too. If the idea is to place it as action cam style filmmaking/shooting, I think it makes all the sense to gather all together in the same place. Let alone that this decision belongs to our webmaster per se, so all is fine and finally we can feel safe to post it here :- ) - EAG

This is not so much about the quality of the image but more to do with the quality of the posts on here. Historically, the action cameras have produced a LOT of spam on here either directly from new members setting up accounts to pimp them or some very suspicious stuff from existing members. Having a single repository for them makes sense to me in the same way that there is one for lenses. If people have an interest in new developments (as indeed I do myself) then there is a specific thread to subscribe to without numerous individual ones popping up that then have to be curated and assessed. Of course you could argue that this could then be true for a lot of topics but the historical context of dubious spammy shite for those is different.

Joking about ponies aside, the line can be a bit fuzzy sometimes. Does the Osmo Pocket 3 count as an action camera? There's some crossover in that use and using it for filmmaking. The RX0 uses the same sensor as the RX100 V and a 24mm equivalent rectilinear lens. The Insta360 One R 1" edition has a sensor of the same size and also has a 24mm rectlinear lens. Obviously we're not dumb and can easily tell an action camera from a non-action camera so I'm not trying to make that case - just making the point that as the years go on, they're increasingly capable filmmaking tools and increasingly useful to have on set.

I think this YouTuber already covered Pony usage very well. 😉

EOSHD is about mirrorless cameras, as a forum, as a website. It isn't that I don't think extreme sports and drone operators aren't filmmakers. It's just that the gear doesn't belong here. You have to draw the line somewhere. Should we also be about how to train ponies?

The cinema-going behaviour of the public, definitely not Red letter media - one of my favourite channels. True movie-buffs and hilarious at it too.

Oh look, other sites are still shamelessly lifting content from this forum. They could've at least credited you @stephen for doing the legwork and taking a chance on buying one.

I'm doing an about face after 6 days shooting with the primes and going back to a single zoom. Well kinda... Most of the time, I have been shooting with the right lens for the situation, so the 18 when I want wide (but finding it too wide most of the time), the 50 (which can get a bit tight indoors and not quite long enough out) and the 85 (which is often far too tight outdoors). So I am switching it around and popping the Sigma 28-70mm f2.8 on the S9 as my run & gun combo with the option of the 18mm for those very few times when I need it. The 50 and 85 I have moved over to static duty on one or both of my S5ii's, especially when I don't need the big boy 70-200. The simple reality is I like the purity of zooms plus their ability to gather more light/shoot shallower, but flexibility trumps those qualities. I do however despise variable aperture zooms and anything that really extends. The Sigma has a very short telescoping effect and the 70-200 none. Meanwhile though for candid stills, the Zf with 40mm f2 is a great combo. Pity the AF is not even close to that of the A7RV. Sony AF just flat out rules, no question whereas with Nikon it's a case of overshooting because it asks, "This? This? Or this? Oh you mean this!" in fast paced scenarios. Sony meanwhile winks at you and says, "yep, I already know".

People just have ever decreasing attention spans and in a survey of one, my daughter (20) has to check reviews before even considering ‘watching’ a movie and by ‘watching’, I mean occasionally glancing up from her phone. My wife (more than 20, though may trade her in for a younger model if she gets any older) is beginning to develop the same phone disease. But also yes, everything has to be so literal and woke these days. Or it’s the complete opposite and just OTT violence with casual body counts in the dozens. It’s not that there are not some gems and maybe no less than there ever was, but they are getting drowned in a sea of shit and then lost due to attention spans of the gnats ‘watching’.

At no point in my life could I remotely imagine making a mess for someone else to clean up. I almost don't care about people making some noise in the theater at that specific moment--hey, it's not my type of movie, let the fans enjoy it their way--but people throwing shit on the floor makes me so angry. I think pop culture has shifted sharply towards factual, literal interpretations of stories. Our stories have become more about whether superhero A or superhero B would win in a fight, and less about what that conflict tells us about the characters, or more importantly, ourselves. Characters and stories are analyzed in terms of today's culture, rather than the movie world. It's in vogue to say, "well actually, don't date a guy like Mr. Darcy, because he only helped Lydia to get in Elizabeth's pants" ignoring that it's fantasy. Stories don't necessarily need the same ideology or moral code as real life--fantasy isn't only about a physical setting. The emotional meaning behind an action in a story doesn't necessarily match the emotional meaning behind that same action in the real world. And I think that 20-40 years ago, moviegoers accepted that kind of fantasy to a larger degree. It was normal for a movie to convey themes and values without requiring a literal relationship to modern-day themes and culture. Maybe another way to summarize is that subtext--both in terms of plot and theme--has become less common.

Red bull might have something to say about that, It would seem to me that they have made a truckload of money off the back of extreme sports shooting as well as selling a few more cold drinks in the process. I suspect its also kept a few camera men / editors in a job as well. It may not be your "thing" and definitely its a niche area but it still videography and worthy of a thread i think. Like eatstoomuchjam and Emanuel have said, your house your rules and we appreciate that you opening up this thread. No idea where the next david lynch or Spielberg is coming from but there's a good chance one of his / her cameras will be an action camera of some type to cut their teeth on. I was blown away by Chris Benchetler' chasing el nino series from like ten years ago. amazing scenes of winter wonderlands, great skiing and huge jumps with alot of gopro footage. Inspired enough to buy a gopro anyway lol. In hindsight i suspect there was probably a film crew with your typical camera gear doing all the normal stuff with a few skiers wearing gopros. If i was more cynical i'd say very clever marketing by red bull and gopro, however still very impressive visually. I dropped and cracked a two day old iphone 13 pro max while documenting the local roads after the last big storm / flash floods we had. Really wish i'd gone out that day with the gopro... Hats off to anyone who gets out there and does stuff. Be it a wedding, forest trail or car show and I'm brand agnostic, so use what you got.

From 2023, I enjoyed The Holdovers and Poor Things. In 2024, Dune Part 2. So far from 2025, nada. From the 80’s, how long have you got? Far FAR more good series on Netflix and Apple etc than movie releases these days. Not that every series or even most series are good, but for me, series took over from movies a good few years back.

Or I could just stick with my Zf

You mean the movies and not RLM, right? Because RLM are both wonderful and sort of neighbors (I'm in Minneapolis, they're just a few hours away in Milwaukee and we Midwesterners need to stick together). Anyway, I wish it were just a US problem - but the non-US market also hasn't been too kind to a lot of non-blockbuster/Marvel movies.

You're right, and there is one called "I'm back" or something like that. It sells a bunch of units every time it goes viral again, for some reason. It has a film canister form factor and a 21 megapixel micro 4/3 sensor and costs about $500. There's also one that replaces the entire camera back and has a 1/2.3 inch 16 megapixel sensor and costs $600. If I remember right, both need a winder thingie to be attached to the bottom of the camera and they don't really have any good way of knowing when you push down the button. There's also a medium format back which costs about $550 and also uses a 1/2.3 inch 16 megapixel sensor. So you can turn your big medium format which used to make a big film negative into a big medium format camera which uses an action camera sensor. 🤣 Anyway. For people who really want to use their old Nikon F3, but... worse and digital, those guys kind of have the market locked down. And if you really want your digital G2, I bet the film canister thingie would work! 😅

Only at the right price!

America... The absolute state of your culture. It's sad. It's pathetic. Wake up soon from this nightmare cultural bonfire 🙂

WTH of a combo! 56 grams + 1/1.7-inch CMOS sensor delivering 4K video at up to 120 frames per second... https://dlmag.com/dji-osmo-nano-leak-reveals-ultra-compact-action-camera-set-to-revive-modular-design/

Should have known!

I think that is quite a true statement. Of course it depends on your needs, how invested you are in a system, how many lenses etc and despite my intention (as things stand) to switch to Sony or hopefully Nikon next year, I would be doing this despite Lumix having what I think are the best current cameras for my needs. But it’s that term ‘needs’/wants that would allow me to sacrifice some outright video spec for the bigger picture which for me, having done my maths, is a body less than I currently using and whopping 4 less lenses. Less lens swapping…in fact virtually zero lens swapping, cross body alignment with batteries etc and just a lot less faff than the 3 systems I am currently using! But as to just getting the job done, for my needs, based on purely video spec and real world results, nothing else I would rather be using in 2025. 2026 though… Well that one is up to you Nikon. You know what you have to do which is not drop the ball on the ZR and deliver where your rivals in 2025 have so far fallen short… Sony with the FX2 and it’s 💩LCD and Lumix with the continuation, albeit updated S5 body style because I’d prefer something ‘FX30ish’ and I say FX30ish because that actually does have a good LCD. I’ll add to that list Nikon Z6iii for the also boring body style. Canon 🥱

Only absolutely mad gear addicts bought them. Isn’t that right @Andrew Reid ?

Now I know! So there was the Lunar one that everyone laughed at and they sold maybe 3 and all to ex-astronauts. Or the blind. This one, the Lusso looked quite cool but just 100 units sold in Hong Kong. The best looking of these skin jobs was the Solar, but that turned out to be a hoax. It would be quite cool to see some more custom houses such as this, a bit like Zagatto in the car world, re-skinning more mainstream models to make them a little more interesting… Or just get them involved in the design stage and sack off your former cardboard box ‘design’ team. I’ve always thought there would be a market for putting the more modern gubbins into older ‘retro’ bodies also. I’d like a digital Contax G2.