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So definitely not an FX30 killer at that price. But 6K FF DGO sensor? That might be in the category of "sell some my other stuff" followed by gif of Frye from Futurama waving around money, possibly with some delay before they hit the used market.

As with all rumor mills take this with a grain of salt, instant-buy if this is verdict : Canon EOS C50 Sensor and Image Processing 32MP Full-Frame BSI CMOS Sensor: Adapted from R5-series tech but at a reduced 32MP resolution for better heat management and faster readouts in video modes. (~6936 x 4624 pixels in 3:2 aspect ratio for stills; supports Open Gate full-sensor readout for video). Features Dual Gain Output (DGO) for enhanced dynamic range (15+ stops), borrowed from C300/C70 technology. Analysis: With the help of the BSI CMOS sensor, the low-light performance of the camera improves, as well as heat management issues become much better due to the lower resolution sensor compared to the R5 Mark II with 45 megapixels. So, the lower resolution choice makes it an ideal sensor for cinema workflow, making it highly efficient for solo professionals. DIGIC Accelerator + DIGIC X: Dual-processor setup added with AI DIGIC Accelerator, the Canon 32MP sensor has fast sensor readout, despite being a non-stacked CMOS sensor, and reduced rolling shutter. Analysis: The image processor is responsible for the overall performance of the camera. Paired up with Canon’s homegrown AI image processor known as DIGIC Accelerator, it boosts the AF performance of the camera. The Accelerated Capture system reduces rolling shutter distortion, ensuring smooth footage during fast action. Advanced Dual Pixel Intelligent AF, powered by the DIGIC Accelerator, offers precise subject tracking. Canon EOS C50 Video Capabilities Resolution and Frame Rates: Canon C50 is available to capture 6K RAW at 60 FPS (full-sensor readout; oversampled from 7K / 32MP for high detail). 4K at 120 FPS (uncropped or minimal crop, 10-bit 4:2:2 internal). Additional modes include 4K 60 FPS oversampled (from 7K-equivalent downsample for superior quality, no line-skipping) and Full HD at 240 FPS. Analysis: The core video specifications actually outperform the Sony FX3 4K 120 limit in resolution flexibility, focusing more on cleaner capture by oversampling from 7K. The Canon C50 camera also has an active full cooling fan inside, so no recording limit. Codecs and Log Profiles: Canon RAW Light (LT/STD/HQ), Canon Log 2/3, HDR-PQ, XF-AVC, MP4 (H.265/H.264). Features internal ND filters (up to 10 stops), timecode I/O, proxy recording. Analysis: The above codecs, resolution, and frame rates all qualify for high-end production needs, and it will very easily make its space in top Netflix-recommended cameras. Canon EOS C50 Autofocus and Stabilisation Dual Pixel CMOS AF II: AI subject detection for people, animals, vehicles; up to 1,053 AF zones; face/eye tracking with registration for up to 10 subjects. Analysis: The need to track 3D moving subjects even in complex scenes makes it very ideal for documentary-style or event shooting. At the same time, with the AI enhancement, users will experience a major shift in autofocus performance compared to the Canon R5C. In-Body Image Stabilisation (IBIS): Up to 8 stops, with electronic IS coordination for video. Analysis: The Canon C50 allows you to shoot handheld videos due to the presence of its sensor-shift image stabilisation system. Further, you can also use gimbals or external stabilisers to enhance performance. Canon R5C and FX3 — neither of them had IBIS. Canon EOS C50 Build and Connectivity Compact Box-Style Design: Aluminium alloy body construction, weather-sealed; active cooling fan for unlimited recording; weight ~650g (body only); RF mount with EF adapter support. TBA: Optional electronic viewfinder (EVF) attachment (5.76M-dot OLED); 3.2-inch vari-angle touchscreen LCD (2.1M-dot). Analysis: The new Canon C50 is a rig-ready camera, a mix with the Sony FX3 design. You can easily mount several accessories on the mounting threads all around the body. Ports and Storage: Dual card slots (CFexpress Type B + SD UHS-II); full-size HDMI 2.1; USB-C 3.2; XLR audio inputs via optional top handle; Wi-Fi 6E, Bluetooth 5.3; Ethernet via adapter. Analysis: Lots of upgrades in the new C50 body — starting with a full-size HDMI port (HDMI 2.1) and timecode I/O support for multi-cam setups, positioning it above consumer hybrids. Battery & Power: LP-E6P battery (2+ hours of 4K recording); power delivery via USB-C; optional battery grip or V-mount compatibility. Other Features The Canon C50 will be Canon’s first cinema camera to offer Open Gate recording for flexible aspect ratios. Waveform/vectorscope monitoring will also be there, along with false color. A new feature is anamorphic de-squeeze functionality, and AI upscaling to 8K is proposed (not available in the initial version of the camera). Canon C50 Pricing [Expected] and Value Proposition Canon C50 Price: $3,499–$3,999 body only [Approx]. Analysis: At this level, the C50 enters the higher-end cinema EOS lineup, positioned below the C70 ($5,499). It offers more than the FX3 ($3,899), but the C70 was less popular due to its price point and limited Canon’s RF lens ecosystem (lenses start at $300+). Hopefully, this year, third-party makers will release a massive range of full-frame RF autofocus lenses. For indie filmmakers, the C50 represents excellent value for money—delivering 6K capabilities at half the cost of a RED Komodo ($5,995). However, if Canon opts for a higher tag (e.g., $4,799), it risks alienating budget-conscious creators. https://thenewcamera.com/canon-c50-rumored-specs-price-release-date-and-in-depth-analysis/

It there's a camera that small/thin and it captures Redcode, I might consider my second-ever Nikon camera... after a Nikon FG that I owned briefly in 2002 or so.

On the subject of the thread title of YouTubers fighting, it appears that two prominent ones have been fighting so much that they are getting divorced. But sharing custody of the YouTube channel.

you don't know? The cripple hammer is at a safe place in the factory, it's rumoured that only 3.25 people have the key to it's safe! (J/K)

In fact it's so small, if it is a Canon, where would they hide The Cripple Hammer?

Whatever that is, it's been fed on a diet of lettuce and nothing but lettuce. How is that even a camera? It looks smaller than a Fuji X-M5...

Maybe... It is for me as in my interest these days does still exist, but less than previously because all the things I have, I have because they do what I need them to do, when perhaps once, the things I had did not quite. The only thing I'm interested in currently is a new drone because my Mavic Air 2s is getting a bit old and flies a bit wonky due to err...a couple of collisions 🥴 But then I'm not really into tech beyond what I need something to do and never feel any need to have the latest phone (13 I think but not sure or really care) or MacBook (M2) or anything else. And I drive a 14 year old 150,000+ miler Skoda. I'd rather go back to a pre-2000 tech era actually where the skills were more important whereas today, there is a ton more smoke and mirrors fuckwittery to compete with...

Could be.. I can't keep up with all these rumors!

Dont you think we have reached the point that 'tech' has reached a certain 'maturity' that most people are not as interested in the latest iteration. That applies to mobile phones, pcs, macs, ipads, cameras (whether fixed lens or digital).

And finally we will discover that it's the DJI 😄

Body & grip looks thinner, I think that's actually the Nikon ZR! In the comment section the Youtuber says: I'm sorry to tell you but what you captured there from my Video is not a Canon Camera at all. 😅

https://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/blurred-images-of-the-new-canon-c50/ Edit: if that one is a VND, then...

“Useless” is a bit of a strong word LOL. Most real documentaries have an actual sound recordist on set so I see no idea why this wouldn’t make a great B-Cam to a big brother C400 or whatever. If it’s the R5ii sensor in there that’s a pretty sweet look and a very capable camera.

The form factor of the Tascam FR-AV2 and Zoom F3 make that less of an issue nowadays, imo - have you tried either of those options?

I hope there is an XLR module or handle on the new Canon camera, otherwise it is kind of useless for documentary film making.

I hope they offer an attachable EVF as an additional accessorie. Also USB-C protocol that makes it compatible with the C400s detachable monitor. It's actually wild to me that Canon hasn't already done this with that monitor bcuz the touch screen AF would make it an amazing monitor option for gimbal work.

Was thinking the same thing, haha

I love the trend of designing a slightly less ergonomic mirrorless with a flat top, and calling in a cinema camera.

The rumors about a 30ish megapixel sensor when combined with FX30 killer got me laughing out loud since Canon absolutely have a 30ish megapixel full frame sensor that they could put in a small cinema body and sell for a price slightly below the FX30... Putting all of that information together, we quickly arrive at the conclusion that Canon will be releasing a cinema version of the EOS R. Maybe they could even tweak their old stock sensors to be able to read out 4K from the whole sensor. 🤣

A clearer shot.

I’m betting not and despite the community crying out for it, won’t be happening any time soon, but it would be great if it did, or when it does! I’ve been doing some trials with a 2-5 stop VND on my S1Rii’s which are brilliant for hybrid shooters having 5 custom settings each for both stills and video, ie, flick one switch for stills or video and rotate one dial through 5 different custom options, and that is great and the VND starting at 2 stops makes zero real world difference when shooting stills. But how great would it be if there was some kind of auto VND internally and you could skip that whole thing? Someone has to do internal VND soon surely on full frame MILC? Maybe it will be Canon or Nikon…

Got it, thank you. I feel like we were both circling around the S1Rii at the same time frame. As far as the new Canon C50 and Nikon Zr, curious as well, I wonder if one will finally include built in ND's either physical or electronic!

It didn't and I have nothing against Canon, but it's a brand I have never owned. 5 years of college and uni was all Nikon film cameras. When I worked in commercial photography for a while, Nikon film. Started my wedding career, Nikon film. Approx 5 years of Nikon digital and then 9 years of Fuji mirrorless and then was split the last couple of years between Sony & Nikon for stills and Lumix for video. The only 'problem' I have with Canon now would be cost. Sold off all my Sony & Nikon recently and went all in on Lumix and the cost to trade was somewhere around zero because I reduced the amount of bodies and lenses. If I had moved to an all Nikon set up, it would have cost me a few grand. Sony a little more. Canon a lot more, and at a rough calculation, about 15k to have the equivalent set up to what I have with Lumix and what would I gain exactly? Nada in my opinion. I guess it mostly comes down to needs, but also what level you are invested in any system and Lumix made, makes and will continue to make the most sense for my specific needs. BUT, I'm still interested in what else is out there, but more out of professional curiosity than anything. On another note, there is supposed to be news coming from the Dolomites later today regarding DJI's full frame camera and if that thing isn't just rumour, could be interesting and shake the market up a bit?

I'm curious, why did Canon go so wrong for you? (only if you feel like elaborating 🙂)