Emanuel Posted Wednesday at 06:47 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 06:47 PM https://ymcinema.com/2025/04/15/omnivision-unleashes-a-game-changing-1‑inch-8k-18-stops-of-dr-sensor-for-smartphones/ https://ymcinema.com/2025/09/30/omnivision-ov50r-8k-sensor-action-cameras/ https://www.ovt.com/press-releases/omnivision-launches-ultra-high-dynamic-range-1-inch-image-sensor-for-movie-grade-video-capture-in-flagship-smartphones/ Breaking news: currently in mass production... Imagine that reaching the mirroless/compact cameras segment, no less... Why not? ; ) In a single line: economies of scale. The funny part of the equation is the smartphones market pushing the boundaries of this industry in every front, from iPhone sales to Android. ;- ) majoraxis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND64 Posted Wednesday at 10:20 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 10:20 PM Same technology used in Xiaomi 17 Pro. It has more DR than G9m2, but the lens quality and the algorithm used to combine low gain and high gain are horrible and so the extra highlight stops are wasted. alsoandrew and Emanuel 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Nikolai Posted yesterday at 04:48 AM Share Posted yesterday at 04:48 AM 6 hours ago, ND64 said: I was looking at the Chinese characters and wondering what rice would have to do with lenses. I looked it up and 小米 is pronounced xiao mi. Hah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND64 Posted yesterday at 06:59 AM Share Posted yesterday at 06:59 AM 2 hours ago, Clark Nikolai said: I was looking at the Chinese characters and wondering what rice would have to do with lenses. I looked it up and 小米 is pronounced xiao mi. Hah! For anyone who knows one or two things about imaging science, it was obvious we can't go beyond 16 stops with current combinations of tech, as DR is not just about pixel's saturation. You can save harsh highlights from clipping but you get an overall contrast level that doesn't match to that saved highlights, which is what exactly demonstrated here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted yesterday at 11:52 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 11:52 AM 5 hours ago, ND64 said: For anyone who knows one or two things about imaging science, it was obvious we can't go beyond 16 stops with current combinations of tech, as DR is not just about pixel's saturation. You can save harsh highlights from clipping but you get an overall contrast level that doesn't match to that saved highlights, which is what exactly demonstrated here. For sure. The “18 stops” claim comes from the manufacturer (sensor-level, special HDR mode). It’s plausible as a sensor specification under controlled conditions/multi-exposure HDR — but practical DR measured in real cameras has been substantially lower due to optical and pipeline factors. Although the sensor itself has a “theoretical” 18 stops, many other factors (noise, analog-to-digital conversion, image pipeline, compression, amplifier architecture, pixel readout, linearity, saturation capability) limit the actual practical performance. Manufacturer's claim = sensor under optimized conditions (two/more readings, dual-gain, on-sensor HDR, internal measurements). This isn't necessarily the DR you'll get in a final phone/camera. Actual limits: optics (flare/veiling glare), amplifiers, pipeline noise, compression, RAW/JPEG processing — all of which reduce useful DR. https://www.imatest.com/docs/full.html Imatest/DxOMark measure the system, not just the sensor die (photodiodes (light-capturing pixels), transistors, amplifiers, readout lines, A/D converters, etc.). Lab values applied to cameras tend to show much lower useful DR on sensors of this size — hence the large difference between manufacturer claims and practical DR. However, if this OmniVision sensor actually comes to fruition with 18 practical stops, that will be revolutionary for such small sensors — it would be worth watching for announcements and technical tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPNS Posted yesterday at 02:46 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:46 PM i worked more days in construction this year than i have in the film and commercial industry. sorry but who cares about pushing boundaries and constant releases of new means when there’s less and less work to use the means on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emanuel Posted 17 hours ago Author Share Posted 17 hours ago Got you : ) But. Saying something new doesn’t matter is like refusing to plant seeds because not every one will grow. Complaining about "the new" is like grumbling at a garden: some seeds fail, but a few surprise you with a nice tree. They also mean democratization today. Of course, this has led to a flood of mediocre content, but it also opens doors to those who otherwise wouldn’t even have the chance to try. I finished film school twenty-two years ago. Still kickin’ ; ) not exactly 'cause of the old-school film I got from there. : P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanveer Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago It doesn't look 18 stops. Also the shadows are insanely noisy. Maybe they meant 10 stops and it got translated as 18 stops. Also, except the noise pattern, both pics seem to have similar dynamic range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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