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Samsung NX1 - which is 4K video and which is the 28MP raw still? Can you tell?

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Quite honestly I think all you "A is raw" people must be blind!!! :P  I'll put down my video camera for a year if B isn't raw (or at least sell my GH4 and buy an NX1).

B doesn't have compression artifacts, but you should return your gh4 for a full refund anyway :p

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Damn I think I've forgotten which is which ;)

 

This would have been much easier had it been Canon 5D Mark III H.264 video vs 22MP raw!!!

 

Results and blog coming in the afternoon of the 3rd Dec, Berlin time.

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I honestly can't tell. But if I had to choose I would say raw is B, simply for the higher colour depth and less banding and more CA, but you could have edited raw to give the A look so B compared to it looks compressed. It comes down to the edit.

Anyway it's remarkeable how close they are, identical in real-world terms. It's exciting the the quality of motion is finally catching up to the quality of stills.

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A clearly is the raw photo, unless here we have the worlds first photo camera which has a weaker photo image quality than video quality. 

aside from that, images with only sharp focus in the middle will hardly show the full potential of the camera or lens.

a landscape or street with f8-f16 would be much more interesting.  plus especially in 4k video, faster movements will show if the image holds up or is falling apart.

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A is the RAW, B is the 4K.  You can see it in the color space and the blocking.  You can see the extra color detail if you zoom all the way in.  B gives the illusion but its not there.

 

On top of that you can see that A does not have the same crop as B.  The frame extends wider and such an extra number shows in the barcode, kind of a dead give away that A is RAW.

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I am hoping that A is RAW and B is the video because I like the look and feel of B better.  That said I am expecting B to be RAW for the reasons people mentioned - better color gradation, purer white balance, etc...

 

Anyways - looking forward to reading the results as well as the workflow overview.

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I've changed my mind. Not on the softness and CA, but on reflecting on others comments: B has wider colour separation. And the shadows on the far left B cup are perfectly smooth while on the A cup they merge into solid blocks.

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Maybe h.265 is very efficient, but there is much more information in blacks in the still jpeg compared to the video jpeg.
BTW, Andrew, the difference in pixel count is such a giveaway )
Anyway, a great amusement here )

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A is the RAW, B is the 4K.  You can see it in the color space and the blocking.  You can see the extra color detail if you zoom all the way in.  B gives the illusion but its not there.

 

Can you explain more please? I'm mind-boggled.

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So many people are going for A as RAW, I'm starting to doubt my sanity. The thing is, most of the reasons given for A being raw are about "image quality" - which is a very subjective thing - and "sharpness", which gets confused with actual detail.

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Damn I think I've forgotten which is which ;)

 

PM me. I'll tell you.

 

 

Seriously though, will you be uploading ungraded versions of the images when all is revealed?

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