Nikkor 855 Report post Posted December 3, 2014 Quite honestly I think all you "A is raw" people must be blind!!! :P I'll put down my video camera for a year if B isn't raw (or at least sell my GH4 and buy an NX1). B doesn't have compression artifacts, but you should return your gh4 for a full refund anyway :p 1 maxotics reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
levisdavis 26 Report post Posted December 3, 2014 Banding in A, lower left near shadow area, spells the quality of 8bit vs. 14 bit found in B. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MBFrancis 5 Report post Posted December 3, 2014 A is RAW, B is video. There's definitely a lot more detail and sharpness to the upper left, where the barcode is :P Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MBFrancis 5 Report post Posted December 3, 2014 B also has quite a bit of color fringing from the barcode where as A does not. I'd be surprised for a RAW still to have that over a video screen grab. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Reid 8,001 Report post Posted December 3, 2014 Damn I think I've forgotten which is which ;) This would have been much easier had it been Canon 5D Mark III H.264 video vs 22MP raw!!! Results and blog coming in the afternoon of the 3rd Dec, Berlin time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMaximus 15 Report post Posted December 3, 2014 A looks better, B looks RAW ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Ebrahim Saadawi Report post Posted December 3, 2014 I honestly can't tell. But if I had to choose I would say raw is B, simply for the higher colour depth and less banding and more CA, but you could have edited raw to give the A look so B compared to it looks compressed. It comes down to the edit. Anyway it's remarkeable how close they are, identical in real-world terms. It's exciting the the quality of motion is finally catching up to the quality of stills. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Lee 2 Report post Posted December 3, 2014 B is clearly much softer with fringing. A is much better in IQ compared to B. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrTony 3 Report post Posted December 3, 2014 B is raw I was thinking what if Andrew is playing with us and non of the two are raw but both are video just a different grading technique is used? :D 1 dahlfors reacted to this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonathan Pearson 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2014 A is raw,...horrible red outlines on the 4k Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
douglaurent 17 Report post Posted December 3, 2014 A clearly is the raw photo, unless here we have the worlds first photo camera which has a weaker photo image quality than video quality. aside from that, images with only sharp focus in the middle will hardly show the full potential of the camera or lens. a landscape or street with f8-f16 would be much more interesting. plus especially in 4k video, faster movements will show if the image holds up or is falling apart. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaw 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2014 Either way, the video quality of this camera is incredible! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darren Orange 0 Report post Posted December 3, 2014 A is the RAW, B is the 4K. You can see it in the color space and the blocking. You can see the extra color detail if you zoom all the way in. B gives the illusion but its not there. On top of that you can see that A does not have the same crop as B. The frame extends wider and such an extra number shows in the barcode, kind of a dead give away that A is RAW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
majoraxis 135 Report post Posted December 3, 2014 I am hoping that A is RAW and B is the video because I like the look and feel of B better. That said I am expecting B to be RAW for the reasons people mentioned - better color gradation, purer white balance, etc... Anyways - looking forward to reading the results as well as the workflow overview. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orangenz 415 Report post Posted December 3, 2014 I've changed my mind. Not on the softness and CA, but on reflecting on others comments: B has wider colour separation. And the shadows on the far left B cup are perfectly smooth while on the A cup they merge into solid blocks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GMaximus 15 Report post Posted December 3, 2014 Maybe h.265 is very efficient, but there is much more information in blacks in the still jpeg compared to the video jpeg.BTW, Andrew, the difference in pixel count is such a giveaway )Anyway, a great amusement here ) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 560a4aedcb80685284629074497fdc75 Report post Posted December 3, 2014 A is the RAW, B is the 4K. You can see it in the color space and the blocking. You can see the extra color detail if you zoom all the way in. B gives the illusion but its not there. Can you explain more please? I'm mind-boggled. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 560a4aedcb80685284629074497fdc75 Report post Posted December 3, 2014 So many people are going for A as RAW, I'm starting to doubt my sanity. The thing is, most of the reasons given for A being raw are about "image quality" - which is a very subjective thing - and "sharpness", which gets confused with actual detail. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest 560a4aedcb80685284629074497fdc75 Report post Posted December 3, 2014 Damn I think I've forgotten which is which ;) PM me. I'll tell you. Seriously though, will you be uploading ungraded versions of the images when all is revealed? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Lee 2 Report post Posted December 3, 2014 A is macro blocked in the shadows. A seems to contain much better fine detail, more then can be sharpened from from B, B has fringing issues. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
