Dan Wake Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 I have read over internet (I do not remember where) that if I connect some shotgun mic powered only by phantom power to the Zoom H4N.... the battery will last only 15 minutes. Is that true? I have the Zoom H6 (the new model) and I'm tryng to save money to buy the Rode NTG3 that have not internal battery, so it only works with phantom power. How do I have to expect the performance of my recorder? Will it really last only 15 minutes? Thx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varicam Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 If you go to gearslutz.com, you can find posts about the H6 lasting a few hours with phantom power on. Of course, how long it lasts depends on the microphone. Most mics that are built for DSLR use should sip power at a reasonable rate. Dan Wake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Wake Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 If you go to gearslutz.com, you can find posts about the H6 lasting a few hours with phantom power on. Of course, how long it lasts depends on the microphone. Most mics that are built for DSLR use should sip power at a reasonable rate. do you think few hours are enough to work as sound designer (taking audio dialogues for short films for example)? thx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varicam Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 The Zooms are battery powered. If you use Eneloop Extreme (which I use on my Sony PCM-M10) and bring a few spares, you can last a whole day. So unless you need to shoot continuously without stopping for hours, you should be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigelbb Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 The Zoom H4N is notorious for gobbling batteries whether using phantom power or not. You would be lucky to get a couple of hours use out if a set of new Duracells. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varicam Posted June 11, 2014 Share Posted June 11, 2014 H6 is better from what I read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Wake Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share Posted June 11, 2014 thanks @Varicam so I did the right buy I hope! :) I wanted to ask you how many mAh are the Eneloop Extreme that you use? thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
varicam Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 2500mAh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Wake Posted June 12, 2014 Author Share Posted June 12, 2014 2500mAh ok thanks I'll search for them :) how with them does it last more than normal batteries? thanks again and sorry for continuous answering but I'm really curious about those questions! thx again! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animan Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 If you go to gearslutz.com, you can find posts about the H6 lasting a few hours with phantom power on. Of course, how long it lasts depends on the microphone. Most mics that are built for DSLR use should sip power at a reasonable rate. Once phantom power is on, as soon as you put it in standby or record, its sending 48 volts through the output, no matter what is or isnt plugged in. (as far as I know) The H4N has a stamina mode that is much easier on power but you can record only in 44.1khz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Wake Posted June 12, 2014 Author Share Posted June 12, 2014 Once phantom power is on, as soon as you put it in standby or record, its sending 48 volts through the output, no matter what is or isnt plugged in. (as far as I know) The H4N has a stamina mode that is much easier on power but you can record only in 44.1khz, I prefer this trade off myself.. i know that audio standard for cinema is 48hz for dialogues so maybe this is not a good idea. can it go out of sync if recorded at 44hz? or slow/pitch the movie to sync? if anyone can explain why 48hz is cinema standard I will be really grateful. thx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animan Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 44.1 khz is CD quality, 48 is a bit better, you should try and see if you think its noticeable or not, editing programmes shouldnt have a problem but with old fashioned ones like FCP 7 its better to convert to 48khz first.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Wake Posted June 12, 2014 Author Share Posted June 12, 2014 44.1 khz is CD quality, 48 is a bit better, you should try and see if you think its noticeable or not, editing programmes shouldnt have a problem but with old fashioned ones like FCP 7 its better to convert to 48khz first.. but I guess is not a question of quality here (cinema standard) it should be that if the timeline is at 48hz and I put one track at 44hz on it... it will sound faster or slower (one of the 2 not sure which). Try to make a 96hz empty track in pro tools and then put one song recorded at 44hz without converting it at 96hz. it will sound very different (I guess really faster than normal speed). so if this is correct and it should 48hz is a standard in the cinema not for a question of quality, but for a question of "speed". it should be like this difference (33 & 45) 33 45 is a different speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafficarte Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 I've done a work with the H4n and a pair of Oktava Mk012 condenser mics, using both to have a safety audio track (the actress was moving a lot during the shot). Almost 40 minutes for a set of alkaline batteries. All done at 48KHz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
animan Posted June 12, 2014 Share Posted June 12, 2014 but I guess is not a question of quality here (cinema standard) it should be that if the timeline is at 48hz and I put one track at 44hz on it... it will sound faster or slower (one of the 2 not sure which). Try to make a 96hz empty track in pro tools and then put one song recorded at 44hz without converting it at 96hz. it will sound very different (I guess really faster than normal speed). so if this is correct and it should 48hz is a standard in the cinema not for a question of quality, but for a question of "speed". it should be like this difference (33 & 45) 33 45 is a different speed true but any modern NLE will know what sample rate the file youre importing is and adjust, 1 second will still equal 1 second.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Wake Posted June 14, 2014 Author Share Posted June 14, 2014 true but any modern NLE will know what sample rate the file youre importing is and adjust, 1 second will still equal 1 second.. yes but conversions always ruins a little bit the original file i guess but I do not know how exactly :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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