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5D Mark III or Blackmagic Cinema Camera?


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Great post sir. I mean how can any sensible person not believe that a raw codec contains more image info than a compressed 8bit one until they see a 'chart test'. It is just a way to undermine my knowledge that's all.

If people read these debates hopefully they get some info out of it. There was a troll today I had to ban because he was simply adding nothing to the conversation. It was all about how I am anti-5D3, biased-this and that. Christ, put it in a PM and save the other user's time.


I have no time for any of these arrogant craftsmen churning out job after job not really caring about the art of it and lashing out at the younger guys who they feel threatened by.

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as every camera, it has pros and cons - you're forgetting to mention the poor internal battery life and excessive memory and post processing required to handle all the footage. The MKIII has its benefits in those regards, I wouldn't say goodbye to it so easily! ;)

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as every camera, it has pros and cons - you're forgetting to mention the poor internal battery life and excessive memory and post processing required to handle all the footage. The MKIII has its benefits in those regards, I wouldn't say goodbye to it so easily! ;)




Agreed to an extent. I will certainly not be touching any RAW footage in the next few years. I've got the processor to handle it, but not the patience. I don't think I can justify the time spent in post and the extra HD space!
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I think raw is a little overwhelming, but I would love to have the Prores workflow of the BMC. I'm pretty sure there are a good number of FCP X users that have to spend literally hours transcoding H264 (from a GH2) to Prores. Yes 5DtoRGB has batch processing but sometimes it gets hung up or I have files that have the same file name (due to different memory cards being loaded) and I have to babysit the process. After several projects it gets annoying. With Prores files and thunderbolt that process I'm guessing is minutes rather than hours. To me, the BMC actually means a much faster workflow.

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Andrew, you don't need any help or justification for what is and always has been from the beginning of EOSHD your views on things, and you should always return the respect of an expression that asks with diligence, nuance and curiosity why you have said that. Debate is about bettering ones standing, to acquire knowledge to be better, and discover a new way of seeing something I wake up for this and this site has always illuminated me in that aspect. What I find intolerable, is when someone believes that bullying with a get out clause is acceptable and it isn't.Forgive me for my sentiment on this but having grown up under a lot of hate I know where it strikes and how it gets away with it.




This was a good debate for Andrew where other forums have accused him of bias and a chance to show why he rates certain products in the way he does. (A way I like too.) The criticism of being biased could fit like an anchor on other forums. The GH2 is a landmark camera albeit accidently through hacking and the BMC shows up all the other manufacturers.

A troll is someone who in the face of something so obvious denies the truth to try to sway others to a lie or to dislike undermine and often just for twisted enjoyment.

I thought Ruben was beginning to understand and perhaps question what perhaps other forums have been critical about. That's real trolling and they dont get thrown off the sites in question. Why? Because it's in the sites interest. Again this is biased behaviour by other site mods. Although you could say it's just an uininformed opinion. Ruben should have a right to bring an argument or opinion and Andrew gave good answers that will show people his reality. Ruben's view in my opinion was actually helpful in promoting EOSHD. Anyway just another opinion.
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Not sure why people are intimidated by the RAW. It's just easier and faster to grade in the proper software (Resolve runs smoothly on my not so beefy computer) - you just need a proper gfx card. I just hope Adobe Premiere will hopefully catch up soon to their own DNG format.

Also after your project is done just batch convert the archived files to Cineform RAW and you've saved some space. Easy peasy...

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It is daft to do a close up at 20mm on a crop sensor.




I wonder why you say that... There's plenty of films (at all budgets) that used 17mm and 20mm lenses for most close ups on Super 35mm and they look great. There's even more extreme examples of course, but those were used to achieve a certain look/effect.
As you can imagine though, they weren't using Canon still lenses...
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The 5D Mark III has a hand grip, but anyone who shoots handheld video using this is an idiot because it just looks dreadful.

 

I don't understand that. Of course gears are there to help us to stabilize, but being "an idiot" in case someone shoots handheld seems a bit harsh to me.

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