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For anyone about to start do more external recording, especially external RAW, I compiled a list ProRes Disk Rates, Consumption, and Usage Times.  This time I added a section that has the number of minutes you would get out of 500GB, 1TB, 2TB, 4TB drives for your project estimations.  Also adding in costs soon, so that you can estimate your costs/TB and costs/Minute for the different combinations.  The spreadsheet I have will take in the size of the drive and the cost, and then calculate your costs per minute for each of the different codecs and fps settings.

Ah, got it. Had me going through my A7III for a minute until I read this second post. Thanks for looking into it, I sure hope we get a firmware update to include that option.

SMDH...  Well, I just read the part that I copy/pasted from the doc and it clearly does say that those Creative Look settings are for BOTH stills and movies:
A selection of new Creative Looks makes it easy to create interesting moods for stills and movies right in the camera. 10 Creative Looks are provided as presets that can be used without modification or customized by the user, based on the currently selected camera mode.
So most likely, this is where Brandon set the highlights to -9 and the shadows to +9 and it was in the standard creative style.  In my a9 I only see Contrast, Saturation, and Sharpness in my standard creative style (would guess the same for the a7III), so the highlights and shadows setting must be some new options only in the A7SII.

I am just as sad. Did the same thing and I'm also a PRO Support member. Let's hope they get more than one or I'll have to fight you for it!🙂

Man, those are some serious bitrates for 1080P, holy crap (course that is S&Q).  I have never had the pleasure of recording an All-Intra based codec (and 4:2:2 10bit) in 1080P
S&Q Mode

Normal Mode

Not yet, some day hopefully.  That process takes time, just gotta stick with it.
Power Consumption is rated at 3.3W for stills and 4.3W for Movies: but depending on the video mode you shoot on, and also considering the CFExpress cards and also if powering 4 mics via the XLR-K3M, which I plan to do for Docs/Talking head/Corp work)

In comparison to some of the other FF Sony cameras (and 1 APSC):
A7S Mark III - consumes 3.3W for stills and 4.3W for movies A7R Mark IV - consumes 2.9W for stills and 5.8W for movies A7 Mark III - consumes 2.8W for stills and 4.7W for movies A9 Mark II - consumes 2.9W for stills and 4.9W for movies A6600 - consumes 2.4W for stills and 3.9W for movies Interesting that the A7SIII consumes the most for stills, but consumes the least for movies and almost as little power as the A6600.  I'll be honest, I did not expect to see this, thanks for the question.  They have really worked some magic into the video on this camera 🙂
Now, as to noise reduction.  Early reports from Phillip Bloom, who has spent the most time with the A7SIII from any other NDA'ed tester and was the only one with early access to the Ninja V with RAW, there some noise reduction that you can't turn off when using the internal codecs.  For most people that will be fine, but I would prefer to turn it off personally and manage noise myself in post.  Baking in noise reduction into your media file is just not a good idea IMHO.  However, the good news is that we are getting 16bit RAW with the A7SIII (into Ninja V at 12bit ProRes RAW log) and that should be straight from the sensor without any noise reduction.
Taking that discussion a tad further though and you have that very interesting "dual gain" or sensitivity boost or something going on at 16,000 ISO.  Not only do you see a noticeable drop in noise at 16,000 from 12,800, but the exposure slightly improves, as does the dynamic range slightly (it seems).  Question is, is this some noise reduction and exposure trick that is now baked into the image, or is it more like a "dual gain" design (yes, I know its not true dual gain to your ARRI snobs, lol...   We won't know until we get the production models and start testing.  VERY exciting though 

nice, yeah me too.  I was on B&H at 9am, hitting refresh every 5 mins or so, just in case they had an oopsie early opening (kind of like their "oopsie" release of that A7SIII video in the early AM).  Then when it was about 10minutes till 10am, I started hitting refresh every couple of seconds.  They were spot on though, and exactly at 10am, I saw the page, added to card, checked out, and had my conf email all in the first 10 secs, lol (sad, really if you think about it, I mean, it's a dang camera; hahaha).  Any way, HIGHLY recommend PRO Support, I've been a member since they started it and just the 3 cleanings per year alone is worth it (they pay shipping both directions), plus I have gotten "loaners" during, as well as you can request 2 week test usage of any camera or lens as long as they have it, and again they pay shipping in both directions.  You also get to work directly with support staff that I can't say enough good things about (night and day compared to normal support).  And those guys know their stuff, yet when they don't, they don't pretend they do and I really appreciate that. Plus they have brought Engineering in on some discussions and become your champion on enhancement requests.  One area I haven't used of PRO Support is the professional events support, things like the Olympics, major events, they (Canon and Nikon) have a setup to support the pro's working the event to make sure their gear is working tip top and if not quickly get you a loaner to get back at it while they figure out a solution.  Some day, hopefully 😉 I will get to use that.

Not yet, some day hopefully.  That process takes time, just gotta stick with it.
Power Consumption is rated at 3.3W for stills and 4.3W for Movies: but depending on the video mode you shoot on, and also considering the CFExpress cards and also if powering 4 mics via the XLR-K3M, which I plan to do for Docs/Talking head/Corp work)

In comparison to some of the other FF Sony cameras (and 1 APSC):
A7S Mark III - consumes 3.3W for stills and 4.3W for movies A7R Mark IV - consumes 2.9W for stills and 5.8W for movies A7 Mark III - consumes 2.8W for stills and 4.7W for movies A9 Mark II - consumes 2.9W for stills and 4.9W for movies A6600 - consumes 2.4W for stills and 3.9W for movies Interesting that the A7SIII consumes the most for stills, but consumes the least for movies and almost as little power as the A6600.  I'll be honest, I did not expect to see this, thanks for the question.  They have really worked some magic into the video on this camera 🙂
Now, as to noise reduction.  Early reports from Phillip Bloom, who has spent the most time with the A7SIII from any other NDA'ed tester and was the only one with early access to the Ninja V with RAW, there some noise reduction that you can't turn off when using the internal codecs.  For most people that will be fine, but I would prefer to turn it off personally and manage noise myself in post.  Baking in noise reduction into your media file is just not a good idea IMHO.  However, the good news is that we are getting 16bit RAW with the A7SIII (into Ninja V at 12bit ProRes RAW log) and that should be straight from the sensor without any noise reduction.
Taking that discussion a tad further though and you have that very interesting "dual gain" or sensitivity boost or something going on at 16,000 ISO.  Not only do you see a noticeable drop in noise at 16,000 from 12,800, but the exposure slightly improves, as does the dynamic range slightly (it seems).  Question is, is this some noise reduction and exposure trick that is now baked into the image, or is it more like a "dual gain" design (yes, I know its not true dual gain to your ARRI snobs, lol...   We won't know until we get the production models and start testing.  VERY exciting though 

So the official lists have been finalized on the production model that will start being sent to PRO Support in a week and other pre-release places.  Mostly for reference if you need it, but I found the movie recording option one to be well laid out with everything I needed in one chart.
Getting excited to get mine.  Fingers crossed, but I had my paid invoice literally in the first 10 seconds on pre-order and was the first to fill out the "prioritized shipping consideration" from Sony PRO Support.  It has been a long wait for this camera release, hope it proves to be worth it.
 
FULL Specifications (which is currently missing from Sony's page for the A7SIII):

 
GREAT Single place for all movie recording options, depth, framerate, codec, bitrate, memory card req.:

 
Breakdown all of the controls, dials, covers, holes, jacks, etc:

The Sony PRO Support person I have been working with, replied back that he had to ship back his A7SIII.  He is getting his production model in the next week'ish before the bulk starts shipping.  He is going to do another zoom with me once he gets it.  Currently all of Sony PRO Support is working from home, so they are not driving into a common place where all the gear they normally have access to.  So they request specific hardware based on the customers they work on.  There's no data set yet on when they return, so for now, until he gets his unit, he has not way to verify where those settings are and if they are in there.
I did however, find a small blurb listing in the final production document he shared about a shadow setting (I assume the highlight would be there next to it).  I'm beginning to wonder if Brandon confused a photography setting with video?  He is the first to tell you that he is not technical, like the opposite of Gerald Undone, lol (he's modest though, he knows some technical, just not deep)
"Use Creative Look to create moods in camera"
A selection of new Creative Looks makes it easy to create interesting moods for stills and movies right in the camera. 10 Creative Looks are provided as presets that can be used without modification or customized by the user, based on the currently selected camera mode.
The [FL] preset, for example, has clear contrast and an interesting blend of subdued but impressive colors. The [IN] preset has a soft, matte look. The presets provide a wide range of variations with different combinations of color, color depth, brightness, contrast, sharpness, and more.
Eight customizable parameters including contrast, saturation, shadow and others can be adjusted while viewing the resulting image via the monitor or viewfinder. Customized Creative Looks can be stored as Custom Looks for later recall and use.
So, maybe Brandon customized this Custom Look with those shadow and highlights adjustments.  My understanding is that these creative looks are only for stills and don't apply to movies, but I could be mistaken.
The other part of your question to do with firmware update to the A7III to add this, will depend.  If my above guess is right, that wouldn't help you if you want those adjustments for picture profiles (video).  Will update this once I hear back from support (may be 7 to 10 more days).

Dang, I just noticed the "Max Rec. Bitrate" on XAVC S-I 4K is 1,200 Mbps 😮    
Notice how they support V90 or faster for that.  What is weird to me, is that sure if you multiply out the 299 MB/s (Mega Bytes/sec) rating of the Sony Tough G cards you get 299 MB/s x 8 bits/1MB or 2,392 Mbps (Mega Bits/sec), so clearly those Tough G cards are capable of such speeds. 
HOWEVER, the whole point of a V rating is to identify the max sustained write speed of the card and V90 is 90MB/s sustained write or 90MB/s x 8 bits/1MB = 720 Mbps, which is supposedly the max sustained bitrate from a V90 card.  So not, sure if Sony has a typo here or if their TOUGH G cards are more like V150 cards which is the rating that would be needed to sustain writes at 1,200Mbps

So the official lists have been finalized on the production model that will start being sent to PRO Support in a week and other pre-release places.  Mostly for reference if you need it, but I found the movie recording option one to be well laid out with everything I needed in one chart.
Getting excited to get mine.  Fingers crossed, but I had my paid invoice literally in the first 10 seconds on pre-order and was the first to fill out the "prioritized shipping consideration" from Sony PRO Support.  It has been a long wait for this camera release, hope it proves to be worth it.
 
FULL Specifications (which is currently missing from Sony's page for the A7SIII):

 
GREAT Single place for all movie recording options, depth, framerate, codec, bitrate, memory card req.:

 
Breakdown all of the controls, dials, covers, holes, jacks, etc:

I've added it to my shot list.  Let me know if there is any interest for a live stream.  Almost like being able to remote control the A7SIII and then have the resulting files uploaded to see the results.  Could be an interesting experiment.  But at the very least, send me any kind of shots you are interested in and I will add to my list.

yes, it should.  But now that you mention it, let me think about it.  I may need to call up my ole college professor and run it by him.  Great point!

I think this would solve the issues in this thread too, right?  Since the camera wouldn't be getting its power from the V Mount battery directly like with a dummy battery?

BeBob is really good, expensive but you have a workhorse that will give you every bit of what the sticker says. 
I'm building out my A7SIII rig, and went with the FxLion NANO TWO.  One it is small AF, and two it has USB-C with PD.  My plan is to actually run my A7SIII on it's Z100 battery, and at the same time charging it through it's USB-C PD port (the A7SIII supports charging the battery while also using it).  And for the first time, thanks to PD, you can charge the battery faster than it can use the battery.  This allows for me to swap Z Mount batteries without disruption to recording.
I also plan on recording out to my Ninja V sometimes 16bit RAW out (to 12bit ProRes RAW) others good ole 10bit 4:2:2 ProRes HQ.  What about battery swaps with that?  Well, thanks to Atomos buying TCS (makers of UltraSync line of timecode devices), they have a new AtomX module I just picked up this week called the AtomX Sync.  It provides Genlock timecode as master or slave with an RF and Bluetooth wireless network.  Best part is the timecode is baked into the media files, so none of the BS post work of converting LTC footage.  OK so what the heck does timecode have to do with batteries??  Well, the Sync module ALSO includes a small capacitor (aka battery), so that you have a good 5mins you can continue using your Ninja V monitor and recorder while you swap batteries.
So no disruption of recording locally and/or externally, because both the camera and the Ninja V will keep going while I swap V Mount batteries 🙂    I'm pretty proud of this setup, haven't heard anyone else doing it, as all of the pieces needed to do it are so new.  Hope to produce a few videos on it as soon as my A7SIII is in my hands.  I'm also doing some other cool stuff with my rig setup for quick change outs to go between cage/top handle only B Roll to Gimball to shoulder mount to tripod and back and forth.  

Yes that makes sense, that's the same reason why I only use OEM batteries...why try to save $20 on a battery in a $4K camera? It makes no sense when people get cheap parts for expensive gear; or the endless iPhone chargers with the cheap cables that can fry the iPhone port, the chargers die within weeks, and there's been cases where cars and houses have caught on fire, just to save a few $$ vs the OEM gear. 
All of my power related accessories (charger, v-mount adapter plate, v-mount battery) is bebob and so far its been great: http://bebob.de/en/v-mount.html the battery is so expensive I still only have one, but that one can power the camera and monitor for around 6hrs nonstop.
I did do a lot of research before I ordered the accessories for the C200 and only got the top of the line gear for it especially in the power and cabling departments; the only thing I don't trust is the dummy battery cable, I couldn't find one that wasn't a cheap mod from China.
I've been in the IT/electronics field for around 20yrs myself, I still remember using ESD bags and grounding straps to insert circuit cards and oscopes to check waveforms for signal noise and circuit issues...the days before electronics became disposable. That was so long ago I couldn't even turn on an oscope let alone know what I'm looking at these days.

exactly the same here on electronics and IT equipment (almost 30 years now paying the mortgage with that stuff).  As they push more voltage out the SDI and HDMI ports, there is a growing chance of voltage going an unintended path.  But seriously  with good quality cables, components, and process, you are fine.  You have $20k in your C200 setup, so I'm sure you take operating it seriously.  I think those that are going to see a problem don't put much thought into plugging and unplugging, and use the cheapest parts that can "do the job".  It's a little harder for this to happen with HDMI, but easier with SDI 6G and 12G.  In high speed SDI 12G, I saw my first Galvanic video and ground path isolator.  This little device is around $400 (supposedly you can still get 12G speed, but not so sure though), thing was so small, was easy to leave attached to the cable.  I just saw an article describing a Lentequip Safetap, but at around $150 and some DIY work,  seems a bit much, but probably smart if you rent your gear out (which are the folks I have been trying to help with this issue).  For those of us that own and operate our own gear, we are going to take care of that investment.  
I think the reason you and I didn't see this with electronics and IT equipment, is because that equipment has true grounded wiring (on a camera rig it's self contained), is AC based, and better circuit isolation.  This potential issue is different.  You have 2 pieces of gear tapping into the same capacity source AND enter in a 3rd piece that connects between them, that is using more and more electricity lately (as SGI and HDMI get faster), yet still no where near the current levels of the 2 main pieces.  It would be like having a pc sized UPS powering 2 servers (with all of them only connected to each other with no true earth bound ground).  Now connect them together with 10Gbps or higher ethernet cable.  You now have a similar scenario.  Though, it is possible that circuitry in servers does a better job at isolating.  

Dang, I just noticed the "Max Rec. Bitrate" on XAVC S-I 4K is 1,200 Mbps 😮    
Notice how they support V90 or faster for that.  What is weird to me, is that sure if you multiply out the 299 MB/s (Mega Bytes/sec) rating of the Sony Tough G cards you get 299 MB/s x 8 bits/1MB or 2,392 Mbps (Mega Bits/sec), so clearly those Tough G cards are capable of such speeds. 
HOWEVER, the whole point of a V rating is to identify the max sustained write speed of the card and V90 is 90MB/s sustained write or 90MB/s x 8 bits/1MB = 720 Mbps, which is supposedly the max sustained bitrate from a V90 card.  So not, sure if Sony has a typo here or if their TOUGH G cards are more like V150 cards which is the rating that would be needed to sustain writes at 1,200Mbps

That's good to know, I've worked with electronics and IT equipment for many years and the first rule of thumb was to always remove power before connecting or disconnecting anything, so when I got my adapter plate I made sure it had a power button. The part I wasn't sure about was if there were any high capacity capacitors anywhere in the circuit that could still cause problems after the power was removed. I used to mod cars with custom audio systems and those audio caps could fry anything they touched weeks after the power was removed.
Of course now my concern is someone accidentally pulling out the HDMI cable while everything is powered on, I'm paranoid enough that I may still use a dedicated battery for my monitor. I've got about $20K into my C200 so I'm a little more paranoid than if it were something smaller.

That is a nice feature.  If there is no voltage flowing, then the circuit in question is dead.
Most systems don't have that switch option. 
I had posted an easy to remember "you always start and end with power" in your case you are doing that by disabling the power source.
Also, remember this was more a possibility on SDI 6G/12G because the BNC cable could have a proceeding positive that touched before the ground completing the circuit through SGI 😮   This has been reported to happen with HDMI solutions, particularly with the faster HDMI 2.0 and 2.1 (that new 2.1 spec is crazy fast at 48 Gbps).  Most likely the gold connections were a tad higher for positive and/or neg had oxidation or lint or something, allowing postive to touch first.  In that scenario if you have a powered circuit to both your camera and recorder from the same power source, your hdmi in that scenario can complete the circuit.  Many times it can happen quick enough that the higher currents in the battery circuit don't spend enough time in hdmi or sdi to do damage, but in other cases it can fry the hdmi or sdi circuit (they just weren't meant for those levels of currents).
All that being said, if you use good quality cables, V Mount plates, C Mount Battery, etc. you are less likely to experience an issue.  But if you just follow a good workflow when operating your camera, you can avoid this issue all together.  Always start and end with power.  Get your power circuits in place and then add input/output.  Before shutting down remove all input/output, then disconnect power.  The important thing is to keep that power circuit in place to keep the voltage and current in the right places and using the correct grounds.

Dang, I just noticed the "Max Rec. Bitrate" on XAVC S-I 4K is 1,200 Mbps 😮    
Notice how they support V90 or faster for that.  What is weird to me, is that sure if you multiply out the 299 MB/s (Mega Bytes/sec) rating of the Sony Tough G cards you get 299 MB/s x 8 bits/1MB or 2,392 Mbps (Mega Bits/sec), so clearly those Tough G cards are capable of such speeds. 
HOWEVER, the whole point of a V rating is to identify the max sustained write speed of the card and V90 is 90MB/s sustained write or 90MB/s x 8 bits/1MB = 720 Mbps, which is supposedly the max sustained bitrate from a V90 card.  So not, sure if Sony has a typo here or if their TOUGH G cards are more like V150 cards which is the rating that would be needed to sustain writes at 1,200Mbps

So the official lists have been finalized on the production model that will start being sent to PRO Support in a week and other pre-release places.  Mostly for reference if you need it, but I found the movie recording option one to be well laid out with everything I needed in one chart.
Getting excited to get mine.  Fingers crossed, but I had my paid invoice literally in the first 10 seconds on pre-order and was the first to fill out the "prioritized shipping consideration" from Sony PRO Support.  It has been a long wait for this camera release, hope it proves to be worth it.
 
FULL Specifications (which is currently missing from Sony's page for the A7SIII):

 
GREAT Single place for all movie recording options, depth, framerate, codec, bitrate, memory card req.:

 
Breakdown all of the controls, dials, covers, holes, jacks, etc:

Dang, I just noticed the "Max Rec. Bitrate" on XAVC S-I 4K is 1,200 Mbps 😮    
Notice how they support V90 or faster for that.  What is weird to me, is that sure if you multiply out the 299 MB/s (Mega Bytes/sec) rating of the Sony Tough G cards you get 299 MB/s x 8 bits/1MB or 2,392 Mbps (Mega Bits/sec), so clearly those Tough G cards are capable of such speeds. 
HOWEVER, the whole point of a V rating is to identify the max sustained write speed of the card and V90 is 90MB/s sustained write or 90MB/s x 8 bits/1MB = 720 Mbps, which is supposedly the max sustained bitrate from a V90 card.  So not, sure if Sony has a typo here or if their TOUGH G cards are more like V150 cards which is the rating that would be needed to sustain writes at 1,200Mbps

So the official lists have been finalized on the production model that will start being sent to PRO Support in a week and other pre-release places.  Mostly for reference if you need it, but I found the movie recording option one to be well laid out with everything I needed in one chart.
Getting excited to get mine.  Fingers crossed, but I had my paid invoice literally in the first 10 seconds on pre-order and was the first to fill out the "prioritized shipping consideration" from Sony PRO Support.  It has been a long wait for this camera release, hope it proves to be worth it.
 
FULL Specifications (which is currently missing from Sony's page for the A7SIII):

 
GREAT Single place for all movie recording options, depth, framerate, codec, bitrate, memory card req.:

 
Breakdown all of the controls, dials, covers, holes, jacks, etc: