MrSMW

Well just edited my first full set of stills and as expected, my S1RII utterly obliterates it in that regard.
Even without pixel peeping, it’s instantly obvious on my MacBook.
Probably on a phone or social media, would not notice, but actually editing the files, enormous gap including; detail, micro-contrast, WB handling, colour fidelity, higher ISO, you name it, it’s not any kind of contest.
But I never expected it to be and it’s where and what I expected it to be and that is good enough for the specific purposes I have for the L10.
Not tried the video yet and would expect that to be a closer contest.
Battery life is great!

Well one thing is for sure and that is the S5II absolutely annihilates the S1RII, even with the ‘heat management’ firmware update.
Shooting a pair of S1RII’s and a single S5II, same or at least similar lenses, tripods, same settings (4k) at approx 40 degrees Celsius in the shade…and the S1RII’s within 20 minutes shut down each, 3x.
Quick battery changes helped string out a couple more minutes before the next inevitable shutdown.
Meanwhile, the S5II mumbled something about holding its beer.
That’s it, one unit is being traded for an S1II, which was something I was considering anyway.
S1RII principle photo and occasional video
S1II principle all day video unit
S5II workhorse tripod unit
S9 backup and roaming ceremony unit
L10 candid & details unit
But otherwise zero criticisms of how this kit is performing. Ticks basically every box for my needs.
 

Well one thing is for sure and that is the S5II absolutely annihilates the S1RII, even with the ‘heat management’ firmware update.
Shooting a pair of S1RII’s and a single S5II, same or at least similar lenses, tripods, same settings (4k) at approx 40 degrees Celsius in the shade…and the S1RII’s within 20 minutes shut down each, 3x.
Quick battery changes helped string out a couple more minutes before the next inevitable shutdown.
Meanwhile, the S5II mumbled something about holding its beer.
That’s it, one unit is being traded for an S1II, which was something I was considering anyway.
S1RII principle photo and occasional video
S1II principle all day video unit
S5II workhorse tripod unit
S9 backup and roaming ceremony unit
L10 candid & details unit
But otherwise zero criticisms of how this kit is performing. Ticks basically every box for my needs.
 

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But yes, even with streamlining year on year, the volume seems to keep going up and up despite (deliberately) less jobs.
I’m looking at outsourcing, but I’d be looking at a 20% drop in take home income with any existing booked jobs…which would not be a good thing.
There’s only really one thing to do and that is the missus will need to spend less time baking in the kitchen and start baking in LUTS and earn her keep that way…

I should have some soon @kye @PannySVHS
I say ‘soon’ as in shooting, but as to getting around to being able to even look at it…
Currently already in a 6 week log jam (see what I did there?) which gets longer week by week 🤪

It’s arrived.
Immediate observations…
Each to their own and all that, but the size is perfect.
Over the past near 20 years, I have only had a couple of ‘personal’ cameras starting with the GF1.
I still have that one (somewhere) and last time I tried it, it felt somewhat clunky and slow. No big surprise, it is getting on a bit!
X100 which is a strong contender for fave camera of all time for its time. Again, it would be terribly slow today, but SOOC, produced the best ever JPEGs of any camera I have ever owned. Not necessarily (and not actually) the sharpest or most detailed, but specially compared with high MP full-frame cameras, but just a certain ‘filmic’ magic about those 12 MP files from that sensor.
Sony RX100v. A fiddly little bastard. Great video, very average at best stills. Too small.
Sony ZV1. Again, a better video unit IMO, hated the stills experience.
So here we are with the L10…
I’ve set it up to mimic the set up of my S1Rii’s that sit above my S5ii…which sits above my S9 (that I am unlikely to see again before mid July as I head off on a near 4 week road trip in a couple of days).
I still need to import any LUTS and I’ll start with my Phantom one’s for the S5ii which I currently use for the S1Rii’s also.
If anyone fancies making a LUT to bake in based off the new L Classic Gold, I’d be interested 😬

It’s arrived.
Immediate observations…
Each to their own and all that, but the size is perfect.
Over the past near 20 years, I have only had a couple of ‘personal’ cameras starting with the GF1.
I still have that one (somewhere) and last time I tried it, it felt somewhat clunky and slow. No big surprise, it is getting on a bit!
X100 which is a strong contender for fave camera of all time for its time. Again, it would be terribly slow today, but SOOC, produced the best ever JPEGs of any camera I have ever owned. Not necessarily (and not actually) the sharpest or most detailed, but specially compared with high MP full-frame cameras, but just a certain ‘filmic’ magic about those 12 MP files from that sensor.
Sony RX100v. A fiddly little bastard. Great video, very average at best stills. Too small.
Sony ZV1. Again, a better video unit IMO, hated the stills experience.
So here we are with the L10…
I’ve set it up to mimic the set up of my S1Rii’s that sit above my S5ii…which sits above my S9 (that I am unlikely to see again before mid July as I head off on a near 4 week road trip in a couple of days).
I still need to import any LUTS and I’ll start with my Phantom one’s for the S5ii which I currently use for the S1Rii’s also.
If anyone fancies making a LUT to bake in based off the new L Classic Gold, I’d be interested 😬

I should have some soon @kye @PannySVHS
I say ‘soon’ as in shooting, but as to getting around to being able to even look at it…
Currently already in a 6 week log jam (see what I did there?) which gets longer week by week 🤪

I should have some soon @kye @PannySVHS
I say ‘soon’ as in shooting, but as to getting around to being able to even look at it…
Currently already in a 6 week log jam (see what I did there?) which gets longer week by week 🤪

OK, I have a black one inbound and should be landing tomorrow or Thursday…
I tried to get the LTD version but has to come from PannyBoy direct and they have zero stock, so black it is.
My S9 is still not fixed and I have missed it on the first 3 jobs of the year and with 5 more imminent, can’t wait any longer.
On the off chance my fixed S9 does turn up prior to these next 5 jobs I am away for, I’ll use both as a bit of a test but regardless, probably have a place more now for the L10 until an S9II comes along.
My experience of not having a mech shutter has not been the greatest and the role either of these units is destined for is more photo, so…

OK, I have a black one inbound and should be landing tomorrow or Thursday…
I tried to get the LTD version but has to come from PannyBoy direct and they have zero stock, so black it is.
My S9 is still not fixed and I have missed it on the first 3 jobs of the year and with 5 more imminent, can’t wait any longer.
On the off chance my fixed S9 does turn up prior to these next 5 jobs I am away for, I’ll use both as a bit of a test but regardless, probably have a place more now for the L10 until an S9II comes along.
My experience of not having a mech shutter has not been the greatest and the role either of these units is destined for is more photo, so…

OK, I have a black one inbound and should be landing tomorrow or Thursday…
I tried to get the LTD version but has to come from PannyBoy direct and they have zero stock, so black it is.
My S9 is still not fixed and I have missed it on the first 3 jobs of the year and with 5 more imminent, can’t wait any longer.
On the off chance my fixed S9 does turn up prior to these next 5 jobs I am away for, I’ll use both as a bit of a test but regardless, probably have a place more now for the L10 until an S9II comes along.
My experience of not having a mech shutter has not been the greatest and the role either of these units is destined for is more photo, so…

OK, I have a black one inbound and should be landing tomorrow or Thursday…
I tried to get the LTD version but has to come from PannyBoy direct and they have zero stock, so black it is.
My S9 is still not fixed and I have missed it on the first 3 jobs of the year and with 5 more imminent, can’t wait any longer.
On the off chance my fixed S9 does turn up prior to these next 5 jobs I am away for, I’ll use both as a bit of a test but regardless, probably have a place more now for the L10 until an S9II comes along.
My experience of not having a mech shutter has not been the greatest and the role either of these units is destined for is more photo, so…

If that is the case, it’s a stupid tactic.
If sales had begun within 7 days, I would have bought one.
As things now stand, unlikely to any time soon, if at all.
Now the dust has settled, I think I’ll wait it out a while and get my S9’s audio fixed.
Then it’s a case of keep the fixed S9 until such time as an S9II comes up, preferably with the S1Rii sensor, but probably unlikely, or flip to a third S1Rii which would also make sense.
But any impulse buy for an L10 has passed as it will have done for others.
And as for the great unwashed, they won’t be sitting around waiting but will simply buy something actually available.

I just learnt very early in my career, unless I did not do that, it left me open to all kinds of issues.
I make it very plain before each and every client books that other than a handful of things that are more or less a given, I do not and will not shoot to shot lists as they both stifle creativity and are open to interpretation and potential recrimination.
Nor will I edit or produce a result to any other specification than my portfolio would suggest.
Despite it being in the contract, I will still get someone every now and again who will send me a detailed shot list of 50 other individuals work on 50 other days, that may or may not even be the same season never mind time of day, captured at 50 different venues...and then have to politely remind them I cannot do that...and they will STILL complain after the fact I have not done what they paid me to do.
Well actually, I have done EXACTLY what you paid me to do, but fortunately these freaks are maybe 1/100 clients and all you can do ultimately is politely and professionally move them on.
Having said that, if I feel I can accommodate or work something in, I will at least try, but we are never going to get close to that 50 'Must Have' list...and you still won't win, but at least you can occupy the moral high ground and state you bent over backwards even though you did not need to.
It's just part of running a business and anyone who has been doing so for 25 years, will have experienced issues from time to time and as long as they are not the norm, then you are doing just fine.
I can count on just 2 hands from 850+ jobs/clients over 25 years those who have had a hissy fit and hand on heart, can say with 100% conviction, it was them not me!
But I do work in a very specific niche where I can operate in this manner and I am the type of person who is comfortable saying no with a smile.

I count myself very lucky in that regard in that I don't work to client briefs or input.
At least, not beyond the most basic of levels.
Ditto end result where there is zero input.
It means I am only ever looking at how I am doing something or how I would do something.
But a lot do not have that luxury I know!

So true. Our training and experience give us an eye for composition and framing. Last winter when I was in Mexico, as a tourist, I started shooting with my iPhone. I thought it was boring so I used an app that replicates grainy, dirty Super8 and shot with that. I realized that I also needed shoot like another person. I needed naïveté in my shooting, so I chose "1960s dad with his Super8 camera". So, I did things like shoot the waves in the ocean with a slow pan to the shore, signs, cars going by, etc. It was refreshing not to have to be so perfect all the time. (Now unfortunately I have to edit it and the footage is not exciting me, but that's a different story.)

Ha, me, everywhere all the time.
I cannot step out of my house without continually working out how to shoot in any given environment whether it’s public transport, a restaurant, a bus, an elevator…
It’s something that is just hardwired into you! 😂

My understanding was that Brandon literally helped make the genre with (what I like to call) "washing machine travel films" like Hong Kong Strong that are like you rolled and spun a camera through a city and then cut it with only match-cuts - they trigger my motion sickness pretty strongly and I literally can't watch them.
However, people loved it and he got a bunch of TV appearances out of it:
As previously said in the thread, he can make any camera from the last decade shine, and he has, and it's skill.  All true.
What no-one else has said though, is that videos like this are film shoots.  They're not holidays, or someone filming while traveling (even slow travel).. These videos are researched, storyboarded, scheduled, and then shot on location with a cast (him and his GF, but often he recruits locals and will direct them like he's shooting a narrative) and crew (IIRC he's mentioned hiring people to fix, drive, translate, liaise, etc).  This is no secret, and his free BTS content shows this openly.
I think he sits in a fascinating space that I don't see a lot of professionals operating in.  He shoots uncontrolled (and uncontrollable) situations, like markets and crowded public places, does so with talent and a shot list, but does so shooting relatively low-impact.  
People shooting a travel doc will be shooting with talent in markets and in the streets but will have huge shoulder-rigs and will build up a little crowd of people who are just staring at the shoot and have to be choralled to keep them out of frame.
People shooting relatively incognito in a crowd are mostly doing it without talent or a plan or shot-list.  
Not a lot of people sit between those two scenarios, and even less will tell you how to go about doing it.
I've paid a lot of attention to his BTS segments (which are excellent if you want to make videos like this) but as someone who travels for the enjoyment of it and shoots along the way, I can tell you that there is very little overlap between shooting while you travel and producing and shooting and editing a travel film.  
I put myself on the email list for when he launched his course, and when it was released it was pretty pricey.  Probably good value as he obviously knows what he's doing, but too much for me considering the differences of our methods.
Maybe it's an aesthetic thing, but his work looks dated to me now, including the Oppo piece.  I understand why he still shoots these things like this, because he's appeared on quite a number of videos like this that are posted on the manufacturers channel, rather than his own channel, so it's obviously how he keeps the lights on.  

It is nuts isn't it?!
I'm shooting 4:3 ratio, 4.7k APSC 300mpbs on my S1RII's, specifically so I have the biggest box for both orientations with 50p.
That is 3552 pixels tall so even with a 9:16 end product, plenty of scope to punch in if needs be.
2x crop markers, one set at 2.4:1 landscape and the other at 9:16, 75% blackout.
No need to tilt the camera 90 degrees and no need for a dedicated social media camera.
The only 'compromise' is visually composing for shooting for 2.4:1 and 9:16 within the same frame, but I personally like being able to make 2 entirely different end products from the same original footage, - there is both continuity yet difference.
But 7k raw files? Nuts!!

About the lack of IBIS, I suspect…but could be wrong, that they deliberately skipped it as another point of difference with a future S9II which not only would have an interchangeable lens mount, but extra bells & whistles, ie, your P&S can’t be too sophisticated.
Re. the size, back when these things were competitors, I went with the Sony RX100v over the LX100 and thought that was an ace little camera and truly pocketable whereas the LX100 was less so.
I am not bothered about pocketable and though the new ‘LX100’ might have grown, just as the Fuji X100 line did, I think it’s just about right and for years have wanted a fast zoom lens ‘version’ of a Fuji X100/Ricoh GR and skipped everything, every year.
Until now, - it’s time.

Oh, you have met some of my family then?

Looks decent and loved my A7RV, but I have nailed my colours to the LUMIX mast for what remains of my career.
But if I did switch, it would be to Nikon.
Or Leica.
Or dammit, maybe even Canon.
Or possibly Sony actually.
The simple reality is they all make good shit these days.
Remaining a Lumix bro, - it does what I need it to do.

Same intern that is currently doing their marketing is also in charge of product naming.

https://www.43rumors.com/just-announced-new-panasonic-lumix-l10/
I wasn't that interested until earlier today when I went to set my S9 up for the imminent season only to discover the audio on it has stopped working.
Or is at least intermittent enough I can't use it until it's fixed and as there is zero chance of that happening before my season starts and I am between 2 countries so which to even have it fixed in, is a bit of an issue.
So ordered a used S5ii from @Andrew - EOSHD favourite used camera emporium to tide me over.
But then, less than 2 hours later, my YouTube feed gets flooded by the Lumix Bros who have been on another jolly and...actually, as above, wasn't particularly interested as I had my S9 as my compact C cam and social media unit...except, this would work even better, so probably going to put a preorder in as they should be available in June.
The only thing I find odd is that every man and their dog has a video or press release and the only one's who don't seem to have mentioned it yet, is Panasonic Lumix themselves.
Same funny old Lumix marketing department 🤔