MrSMW

They also make those little AF cine lenses don’t they? E Mount definitely has the most interesting lens options!

Actually, that is not a bad idea! I’m not going to go buy a new camera just to do this, but next time I do, I might just look at the dollar price and if it makes sense, go do that, dump the packaging, use it, bring it back. 👍

I wish Sigma would come out with something like this for L, F and N Mount as well as the usual E because many of us non-Sony users are crying out for a lens like this. In fact, if anything, scrap the f2 aspect which is only available something like 35-40mm and just make it a constant aperture f2.8 so maybe a little smaller and lighter… And internal zoom if possible… E Mount certainly has the most exciting glass (for me) right now, especially Tamron with their zooms.

Really? Compared with ‘The Latest Sony’, yeah, not in that league, but it’s not too shabby! But yes it’s a better image than the S5ii. In fact it’s better in every way other than AF or if size & weight are a priority. And it’s cheaper! I bought another a couple of weeks back, it’s that good. I use its AF all the time, but mainly to acquire focus in the first place and then flip to manual with the switches on the side of the lens that Sigma provides along with manual aperture control 🙌 I do have a need for reliable AF every now and again and the S5ii takes care of that, but at a pinch, even the S1H’s tracking is not bad if you use a few tricks…

Only one ‘latest & greatest’ in my current arsenal and that is the S5ii for the AF ya know. The rest, bought used, a pair of S1H’s, though the latest has a sticky wheel so I may trade it back for one of my (also bought used) S1R’s that have not yet reached the no point of return regarding their sale… Speaking of ‘latest & greatest’, I am ‘interested’ to see what L Mount produces FF next, whether that be Leica, Sigma or old Pannyboy himself, but not ‘waiting’ on anything. Good to see you back @kye I was wondering where you’d gone…

70-200 or can of oil?

What has Matt got in his pockets? 😂

S1H + Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 if you don’t mind a bit of size & weight, otherwise S5 + Sigma 28-70mm f2.8 for something more compact, plus costs less. The jury seems to be still at lunch re. image quality of the newer S5ii and I have not done enough work with mine yet to comment…though I suspect I will see zero difference.

But none of these lenses are available in RF Mount, only; L, E and some of their stuff in X and N? The recent Samyang AF cine lenses look good. I don’t imagine they are the equal of ‘proper’ cine glass, but for say a wedding hack like myself with pretensions of grandeur, I’d give them a look. But then they are only available for Sony I believe so as an L Mount Luvvie, I’m out of luck there.

Buy from somewhere like MPB where you have a warranty plus if it’s not as advertised, you can send it back on their dollar. However, you can just send stuff back within I think 2 weeks, but at your own expense. The only thing about MPB that I do not like is that they are so slooooooow to evaluate gear you send them. I have had up to a month before which I think is far too long.

The 17mm f4 they can keep. Already have the excellent 16-28mm f2.8 so… The new APSC lens looks good as are it’s existing brethren. I will pick up the 50mm f2 however. The ‘I’ series Contemporary lenses are IMO the sweet spot of lenses along with a few of Tamron’s offerings. Tried the f1.4 Art’s and they are just too big and heavy for my tastes. Lumix’s own f1.8’s are just the most boring set of lenses ever created, both to look at and regarding the results they produce. These ‘i’ Series however, as above, the sweet spot for me in terms of looks, size, weight and of course results/rendering and regarding the latter, I’d call it ‘classic’, ie, somewhere between ‘vintage’ and ‘modern’. Some folks reckon they are a bit too sharp and clinical but I disagree, especially if you shoot them with a mild diffusion filter that just takes off that digital edge. I’d just like them to produce a compact 70-200 f2.8 or even something interesting like Tamron’s 35-150 f2/2.8. I would not say no to compact 50-150 f2.8 for instance… Sigma and Tamron IMO easily make the best lenses that I am interested in for work purposes.

I have the Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 welded to my S5ii because it makes for a superb lightweight, autofocus 4k 50p beast. The focal length works for me here with 27-75 FF equivalent being just about perfect for my needs. The pairing also live on the gimbal which itself spends most of it's time, on a lightweight but full-sized tripod rather than the dinky tabletop thing they tend to come with. I like the fact that it's not faster than f2.8 also because that's just about a perfect DOF for the main use I have for this set up which is; longer static stuff (ceremonies and speeches at weddings), entrances and exits (tracking) plus couple walking gimbal stuff. But if Lumix did not have cropped 4k 50/60p, I probably would use a FF lens instead. Image quality-wise though, I can't see any difference but as the S5ii only shoots 4k 50p in S35, it makes sense to have the smallest and lightest lens.

We should meet up some time and do a photo walk or something now that I live only 2 hours away from Paris by train. I was there last weekend actually, but family stuff for a few days. I didn't know about the Nikon place/event, - could be interesting even though I have not been a Nikon shooter in over a decade now.

Same as it’s always been and something I have never understood because surely any company, large or small, is going to maintain loyalty by looking after their existing customers which is cheaper than chasing new ones. I have never understood this mentality 🤔 When it comes to the camera industry, certain folks such as Canon and Leica seem to have a lot of brand loyalty from their older fan base as does Nikon just because of their perceived established history. Fuji has developed a certain cache in recent years due to their product, their firmware upgrades and the whole vintage/retro/funky slight underdog vibe. Panasonic have some brand loyalty due to their quality but almost near fuck all community recently, (had some with the GH cameras but limited with full frame) though that seems to be coming back a bit with the S5ii as many of last weeks Sony fan club have jumped on Lumix this week. Sony is the wunderkind on the block that seems to attract the youngest element (along with Fuji) but seems to have the most flip floppers who seem to dip in and out of the brand all the time, but seem to be giving with one hand (inovation) but withholding on the other a la Canon in order to protect sales of other lines. Basically I don’t give a single one of them a pass and not a single one of them earns my loyalty as a brand. I simply choose and use what is the least compromised option, within my budget, for my needs.

Exactly. Anything can have all the paper specs in the world but if when you step outside your front door… Or even remain on your couch like Dan 🤔 I’m all for small, light and ingenious and I am well aware of what/who the target market is, but there are plenty of other options sooooo much better than this. Who would it work for? C/casual cam for someone who can say, “OKfuckit” and flip over to their FX30 in under 10 seconds when it shuts down. I can see a place for it and some of it’s features are pretty funky, but I think what most of us are mainly criticising is it’s not going to be a reliable sole camera for anyone that is working I guess. The ZV1 was great but it had that problem most small cameras suffer from, near zero thermal management. Mine overheated too many times so it had to go. But then I probably should not have been using it for what I was using it for! 🤪

Sony not offering firmware updates doesn’t bother me. I use Lumix cameras. But being serious, I have never purchased a camera based on a promise of what it might or will be at some point in the future. I will buy it (or not) based on merit with what it comes with. If something is updated with something I find useful, then that is a bonus, but not an expectation. I’d be very happy with a pair of FX30’s plus a single A7V straight out of their boxes.

OK, found it pretty quickly but my mistake, was cine lenses again but relatively affordable DZO. There is also a BTS

Ditto. I have also seen some utter garbage but then those folks putting that out seem to specialise in garbage no matter what camera they are playing with that week, so… Some of the early really good stuff, as with the S1H and the Sigma FP, they used pretty expensive cine lenses for their approx 10-15 minute short films (think Blur or Blurred? by Sigma and Lumix’s lost in space job) but for one recent one I saw, just ‘ordinary’ lenses. I’ll go see if I can find it…

I thought you said in a few posts back I was being too harsh regarding this release? 🤔😉

I just have one word: Weddings 💰 Sure, they don’t have the caché of shooting music videos never mind even short films, but a lot more creative freedom compared with working for an actual client! OK, the couple are your client but if you are doing it right, they will have next to zero creative input. If I could restart my career, sure, I’d rather be working towards being the cinematographer on Dune, but like 95% of actors who work in coffee shops to make ends meet, I decided to be the indépendant coffee shop owner over the casual working there. I digress, but the one thing this industry has taught me is to steer well clear of demanding people with ‘ideas’ 🤪

I thought of a use for it, as a gimbal cam. Then I remembered the ZV-E10 exists at 1/4 of the price. This new boy, the Sony Narcissist or whatever it is called, really is a turd of a camera. At sub 1k cost, OK, maybe I would give it a pass, but at what they are asking?! 😵‍💫

Over-priced trash. OK, it has some individual elements, but as a whole? Nah. FX30 easily. Or if you want a mechanical shutter (and other than Z9, I would), then S5ii, R6ii, R8, XH2/s and maybe even Nikon Z6ii… Or Sony’s own A7iv. This new Sony however seems to be one of those ‘paper spec cameras’ but in any real world use, is a bit shite. I don’t like it. I had a ZV1 and I did like that. This doesn’t fix any of the (few) issues I had with the ZV1. Neither did the other ‘in between’ one whose name I forget… ZVsomething else. I’d rather they just have them girls names or something as it would be easier to remember…

No such thing. Unless we don’t actually use any of this stuff we talk about, ie, simply collect and then talk about the next thing that might actually work as the current thing doesn’t actually have magical properties… I think some folks really do think that if they point the latest ‘Netflix Approved’ camera at their wife & kids, the results will indeed look like a Netflix production… 🤔 Wedding season starts for me in 2 days. These S1H’s had better make my clients weddings look like Ozark…

This is ridiculous advice because some may wish to sell whatever barely used camera they currently have (because someone in the comments section of a YouTube post stated that they had a friend who thought it was crap), skip the current generation of gear and wait for what the early shill reviewers with affiliate links and Squarespace ad sponsors, say about; the Canon R Crystal Ball camera or the Fuji Grail camera or the Lumix Goat camera. Or I suppose you could just go out and use what you got…

For me, the weakness with the Fuji system when I used it (9 years), was the lenses. There was and still is very little that actually ticked the right boxes for me and the best stills lenses tended to be the worst video lenses and as a hybrid shooter… I was continually tinkering with lens options but never managed to perfect it (for my needs) but then until now, had the same problem with L Mount… This is why, as much as I like Fuji in principle (the XH2/s for me would be The Perfect body if only it had a tilt screen) and I think the video side of things is more than good enough for my needs (of course there are MUCH better options to shoot a movie or commercial projects on), as a system, it comes behind L Mount and Sony for me. If I took cost and all subjective matters out of the equation, I think I would have to put it behind Canon also. R6 II/R7…