MrSMW

On my PC, night and day. But I'd expect that... It's actually very useful because it pushes me further away from any consideration to ever going back to 4/3rds as much as I have a very decent business case for an OM-1 or GH6 based kit. And at the same time...you twat, makes me more interested in the FP-L again 😜 As I mentioned the other day, Ninja V hinged at the rear plus 24-105mm f4 for OIS and that could be a pretty fabulous, still pretty compact cine beast... Not DR related, but how's the electronic stab on the FP-L and how is it in combo with the OIS of the 24-105mm? I know they do not directly play together like say Panny's IBIS and OIS, but do they work together at all? I'm not bothered by a bit of cropping as I tend to shoot longer anyway. One other option that makes the proposition even more tasty, but slightly different and that is with the Fotodiox EF-L mount adapter with VND between the lens and body, EF mount has a lot more OIS lens options... Damn damn damn you Reid, you have my brain pondering again...

Yep and Sony's A7siii I reckon could be pretty good in this regard...but it's a bit more video-orientated. A lot of folks poo poo the Canon R6 for photography stating "it's only 20mp" but I could easily do all my work with that. Whether I choose to is another matter and currently I choose not to, but that's my personal choice.

Didn’t watch but yes. Easily. I recently upgraded from 24 to 47mp cameras for my stills work because purely for myself, I like max quality, plus ability to crop hard (partly because I shoot shorter focal length primes). But could easily go back to a camera that ‘only’ shoots 12mp for client wedding work.

I’m on my phone but clear win for the Sigma…as I’d expect and the colour looks pretty decent too. I’ll take a look later on my PC and big screen…

There are troll caves everywhere 😁 But seriously, who knows... There are a bunch of people who deliberately post shit any and everywhere they can, just to cause mischief and DPR is their main window for this, but we get them here also obviously. ALL of these cameras are pre-production units. Fuji have stated that and most serious reviewers have mentioned this, ie, firmware is not final. I suspect as usual, it's a bit of 'everything', ie; pre-final firmware, user/unfamiliar errors, plus a bit of deliberate fault finding. There's also some footage out there that looks a bit garbage and some absolutely beautiful stuff. I think when it all shakes out, it will turn put that Fuji has produced a bit of a gem. My only real issue with it at this time is the damned flip out screen... It wouldn't be a deal-breaker but another strike (for me) against being 'The Perfect Camera' and as I may have said before, not quite enough to tempt me at this time. To tempt me at any time it would need to be 'total package' vs 'cost to change' anyway and currently, no one is offering it.

I think we have a higher class of Trolls here. And less of them. But seriously, DP Review comments sections are an utter bitch-fest of misinformation. IMO 😜

Caveat emptor indeed regarding anything any DP Review poster posts. Troll cave.

I was talking about banding rather than aperture. When I tried it just around my house, I got banding in various rooms. No way can I work with that at live events. In short, it’s not reliable and that is a deal-breaker. Still love the concept, just not the reality!

Yes, when I tested it last year, anything outdoor not moving, no problem. Indoors, event photography, no chance. It’s one of the worst cameras on the planet in that regard, - you can’t just go shoot with it. So it’s only the video side I am personally interested in, but then after my last 3 weddings, I have gone back to shooting hybrid as I am getting more consistent results with…of all my cameras, the S1R’s, shooting the Natural profile, in 8 bit 4K 50p. They are pretty sticky in the AF department so S1H and S5 have gone back to static video only duty.

I’m looking forward to your review! I am NOT looking to change anything anytime soon, as in this year and even then may not for some time as I’d rather see what the L Mount Alliance…sorry, L2 come up with next. But an OM-1 system intrigued me due it’s compact nature, great AF and video spec that is perfect for me. GH6 and XH2 also in the mix, but would be great to see/hear your more detailed insight Andrew.

I’d like to see the FP-L with the Panny 24-105 f4. That would cover the lack of IBIS for one thing. Rear tilt mounted Ninja V would open up options AND compensate (improve upon even) the lack of a tilt screen.

Agreed. A combo of 3 of those are my workhorses and although prices of used S1R’s have dropped considerably (and I am not even sure if they still make it?) I’d have…and do have, these over any camera listed above or any Leica. If I was a stills purist, the SL2 and S model could be really interesting, but nah, mid-high end gear I’d say. Certainly in terms of capability in which case both are high end.

Indeed and that is partly why I DO shoot weddings full-time. The combo of reward vs effort etc, I haven’t been able to find with anything else, including other genres of photo and video. I guess I am just suited to it whereas most folks probably are not…

I have two of those things….but they cost less than 1/2 that for the pair 🤑

Socialise? Nah, I’m that guy could live on a desert island quite happily. Which in a way is a bit weird being a ‘social’ photographer… If the black sheep and the lone wolf had a child, that would be me. I do have friends. Well one anyway. He’s not in the industry but has the same outlook as me.

The source is a camera company called Leica and the camera division of a company called Panasonic. They are quite well known. They stood on a stage together, recorded a piece (which I am sure they were reading off a flip chart) and put it out on their respective YouTube channels.

22 years…and counting. Not even close to a breakdown or divorce. There is no other option/future for me anyway, so maybe I compensate for that 😜

I think it sits right in the middle ie, is a hybrid and leans in neither direction. Hybrid is the present and future for a huge number of people, but especially event shooters like me. IMO Fuji know this fundamentally.

So many variables… Native or non-native lens. Prime or zoom. Full frame or S35. Type of AF selected: Fine-tuning of AF. Lighting conditions of subject, background, foreground (remember it’s contrast based). Distractions such as is there something ‘more interesting’ nearby waving it’s arms about? The user’s familiarity with the system. Perfect? Hardly but then we know that. Useable? All points above considered, definitely.

Pretty much the only thing I don’t like is the flip out screen over the tilt. The zoom looks interesting…but I hate zooms unless they are short and fast like Canon’s 28-70 f2…but then they are massive and weigh a ton. Had it not been for Covid, I would have been switching out my XT4’s for these. Not that I ever had XT4’s also thanks to Covid! But now, under different circumstances, there are options… OM-1 vs GH6 vs XH2s as hybrids is quite interesting. Right now, I think I’d go GH6 and I am surprised myself about that. But nothing happening for me this year at least as I’m quite happy with my current set up.

At risk of this turning into another AF thread (but when does talking Panny does that not happen?!) but err, not quite. Native is better and even then, some lenses better than others but the 24-105 is quite decent. I have had it tracking entrances/exits/confetti etc recently pretty well. Sigma doesn’t work quite as well but is not terrible. In fact it’s well above that and useable in most situations most of the time that are not intense forward tracking. But back on topic, what does it mean for the alliance? Well it’s a bit of an odd one alright as with Sigma they are the L Mount alliance which I suspect is more a lens mount sharing thing. L2 sounds more like an increased level of collaboration between Leica & Lumix regarding bodies, or at least the tech. Maybe we will see an identical body (or near as) but just with different branding just as we have done before with these two. Fuji and Hasselblad also did this with the Xpan. The main takeaway for me however was the evidence as it were that something full frame is in the pipeline…

Why? Leica make mirrorless ‘DSLR’ type cameras, the SL line in L mount as do Panny, so I’d expect them to continue? My hope is a mirrorless rangefinderesque on top of the brick options…

Sigma France won't lend me another. I tried a few weeks back and they said "non" so I went and bought a second Lumix S1R 🤪

...enter the L2 Alliance! Panasonic and Leica made a joint announcement that they are 'furthering' their collaboration. Quite what that entails, remains to be seen but I read it as thus: Leica I believe are pulling back from offering anything less than full frame and Panny don't and I can't see them entering the APSC arena. So I think that pretty much confirms there will be a successor to the full frame S line. The big Q is will they go PDAF... Regardless of individual opinion and it's been debated to death and back, the simple reality is camera brands sticking with CDAF, ie, mainly Old Panny Boy (because Leica has it's own special club) are being beat up with the AF stick. I suspect we won't see anything physical this year because the Leica SL2-S only came out last year (?) and the Panny S5 towards the end of 2020, but over the Winter for Spring 2023... Maybe, from at least Panasonic. What do I want to see personally? PDAF. Slightly smaller and lighter if poss and Panasonic have also said officially earlier this year this is something they are 'working on'. Other than that, 6k, 8k, 48k, blah blah blah, - I don't mind/care what it is as 4k 50/60p is already fine by me. No need to go crazy on the mega-pixies either. I'm more than happy with my S1R's 47mp and though could go back to 24, I'd like to see something between the two so somewhere between 30-35mp? Get the basics right and don't chase the on paper headlines. Just mash up the S1H, S1R and S5 with PDAF and they will have a winner on their hands. I would also really like to see an interchangeable lens rangefinderesque body from Panasonic. Otherwise, despite what some seem to think, it looks like there's a future here...?? Sigma was not mentioned I don't think. What that means, I don't know, but otherwise it would have been L3.

I use Premiere. And I feel outdated 🤪