MrSMW

Not sure it qualifies as a mirrorless though! 😘

Funnily enough, a former client from 2014 contacted me today to say that she had 'lost' her wedding video and did I still have it? After I stopped laughing, I thought hang on, it is probably still on Vimeo. And it was. I thought it would look so dated and be an utter cringe-fest, but actually it wasn't and I was a bit surprised. It was shot on the GH3.

The S5iiH you mean? 🙈 But seriously, like all the rest, perfectly capable but somewhat dull 🥱

I’ll send you all 300 clips and see what you can do. Yeehaw!

Fuji: OG X100, X Pro2, XH1 Lumix S1H Nikon Zf plus really loved the OM-1 for the brief time I had it. Just not the results it produced. In my hands anyway…

I'm not really seeing any difference between any of them; S5, S1H, S5ii. Yes there are some very subtle differences such as that from the S1H is a teeny weeny bit softer due to the OLPF, but otherwise, nothing for me. There's some chatter about over-sharpening. I don't see it. There's some chatter about moire. I'm not seeing that either. Highlight roll off and blah di blah, - what are we shooting here with these things? Are we really comparing the results from our humble mirrorless cameras with Hollywood lighting, productions, lenses and budgets? I'm not, - to be even remotely in the ball park is hilariously ridiculous. Here's a screen grab from my S9 which is my principal run & gun unit, from last weekends wedding I am currently editing. A pretty dark hole of a room for bride prep and unless anywhere near that window, then screwed. It's SOOC and not touched it in any way; exposure, WB...nuffink. 6k 30p shot at 1/50th, 4000 iso, 5000 WB, Freewell ND 2-5, exposure otherwise eyeballed on the rear LCD with the wave form I rarely look at.

When there is a tan version with a little bird logo on it, it will shoot the most awesome video you have ever seen and you will gotta geddit.

So it's not like they were reliant on Sony, but maybe Tower Jazz can't produce something beyond a certain level that is no longer competitive with more modern stacked or BSI stuff? 🤷‍♂️

Can you say all of that again in one of Camera Conspiracies 'flashback' skits please. Whilst wearing a blonde wig. Money waiting if you put it on YouTube.

What I would like is: A. The frame markers and 6k 30p open gate (preferably 50/60p) from Lumix, plus, B. Ability to burn in RED luts, plus, C. Zf or e Mount, I don't mind which as all my e Mount lenses mount near natively to Zf mount, plus, D. FX3/30 style body. Ability to shoot stills not required, but if it can, fair enough. Mechanical shutter optional, - I don't care either way. No EVF, don't care. Must have good IBIS. Must be relatively compact and not require any rigging out, ie, primarily, a really decent flip and rotate screen a la A7RV/S1H/S1Rii. Could be a Nikon Zr... Could be a Sony FX2... Unlikely to be anything Lumix because the lens options are still just a bit lacking for me.

I would prefer to have it if I could for the few times I would like to be able to do 50% slow motion, but that option alone is not worth the compromise for me having to go back to a much larger and heavier camera over my S9. Instead I accept the crop factor involved and have it on the mode dial rather than a default shooting option.

Same as with all other natural disasters such as the Icelandic ash cloud for instance. Folks were trapped and wanted to get home so all public transport, car hire, hotels, you name it but if they could, raised prices astronomically in order to milk that cow whilst she could still moo 🐮 And then what tends to happen is when the crisis is over/the tarrifs have been lowered or even dropped, prices remain disproportionately higher than they previously were and because folks carry on paying them because they are either too lazy not to or because they feel they have no choice, inflation.

As did Lumix for the S1R.

So what is this supposed to be, - like a hybrid of the FX3 and the A7iv because it’s not cinema camera as such because it has a mech shutter? Interesting because I have always likes and preferred this body style over the more traditional DSLR type.

They look at who the purchaser is and if it’s @Andrew Reid they deliberately make it disappear. Just to annoy the fuck out of him. Because they can.

Heritage is often very undervalued these days by some companies but they are idiots because nostalgia for the good old days (even if it wasn’t as good in reality) is HUGE. Should have bought out Olympus or Kodak…if either of those were possible. And then it is not simply enough to use the badge, but actually design some of that heritage into your product, marketing etc.

I didn't and would not pay for any of that so will now be having an affair with my secretary.

From what I have seen, yes, but then I am very happy with that from the S9 and S5ii so I would expect to!

Then it’s a bit misguided because it creates negative marketing chatter that your products are overpriced and cause probably more loss than gain of new customers. Just price it properly in the first place and earn some, rather than lose respect.

I see it more as a Michael Caine voiceover and it had better “blow the bladdy doors off”. I’m thinking of a Harry Palmer/The Italian Job mash up.

Also a valid point for me because if I do end up swapping my S9 and pair of S5ii’s for an FX3 and a pair of FX30’s it will be for pure video use as it is now. I’m already with Sony for stills and having it all within one system as being able to share batteries and lenses, makes a lot of sense for me. Plus as mentioned in another topic, it would allow me to operate with 1 less body and 2 less lenses. And that is a good thing. And at very minimal cost to do so. Another very good thing!

I’m still interested! simon@firehorsephotography.co.uk if you need my email.

Not interested! All of these current and recent models can do everything I need them to do and my only interest now is how compact a total kit I can make and do so at the lowest possible cost without sacrificing anything.

The summary for me is: Decent spec in a decent enough but not exactly inspiring body but it will do, somewhat over-priced, in a competitive space in challenging times. OK, can’t do much about the latter, but could very much have done something about all of the former (other than the tech spec I personally can’t complain about). How much is a used FX3 and a pair of FX30’s going to be in 2026, because I already have all the glass?

Sticking with my pair of S5ii’s (both purchased used) and single S9. To be fair, the S1Rii and the S1ii bodies are better than the S5ii but neither have anything that makes me want to switch from what I have. 5.1k 60p open gate? Quite nice, but also not enough to warrant any changes in my lineup. Pricing not quite as bad as reported and will drop quite quickly. I get the S1ii model but the E model baffles me a bit as surely anyone who wants one will buy the S1ii but if not, the S5ii/x? As for the lens, good there is something being offered that is not an f8 shitbox of a lens, but not something I am interested in personally.