MrSMW

This. Build hype by drip feeding interest over a period of time, each time highlighting strengths such as in this case, compact size. By doing this, you prevent unrealistic or totally wrong expectations regarding what is being released. And then, don’t release it with an f8 lens and expect anyone but paid shills to rejoice because you are only kidding yourself and allowing your already shaky reputation to plummet. I can imagine and think a lot of the criticism of this camera is unwarranted and it is being somewhat underrated. I think this is due to a couple of reasons. 1. As above, Lumix are terrible regarding marketing and managing expectations. It’s as if they don’t pay any attention or care about their customers and so no matter how good one of their products is, they are already on the back foot before it’s even unveiled. They need to address this. Unless it’s already too late. 2. It wasn’t a successor to the S1H. Here at least, - I’m not so sure what the wider world wanted but I’ve read a pretty overwhelming wish in a number of places for an ‘S2H’ above anything else. 3. I do think they got the naming wrong and therefore the expectation of this all wrong and it is an S5ii on steroids rather than a successor to the S1R. The S1 line was a bigger and better built ‘pro’ line of cameras. The S5 line is less than that. Don’t pretend something is other than what it is because people are not stupid and you will just piss them off and alienate them otherwise. 4. It is a very conservative design. As I have said before and stand by the sentiment and that is, I would buy this camera for what it is and what it can do, despite the furore and the fact that I don’t think it’s a true successor to the OG S1R. The only reason I have not and am unlikely ever to do so is because I already have something I consider at least equal, if not slightly better (Sony A7RV) for my needs and the lens options are in a whole other league. But I always come back to the same thing and that is Lumix’s managing and marketing just comes across to me as nieve at best, willfully destructive at worst. It’s like they are hell bent on reducing their 5% market share and that makes no sense.

That’s about the sum of it, at least regarding lenses. The f1.8 primes are decent and the 50mm f1.4 apart from the weight is stellar, but otherwise…

That would be and has been my approach and adding my own stamp to it.

Agree and just another example of the utter muppetry that is Lumix’s ‘marketing’.

That is where I am at with old Pannyboy. Moved over to them from Fuji as I felt I wanted to be in full frame rather than APSC for both stills and video. Initially continued with APSC video, albeit in L Mount flavour and in non-log before upping my game in that regard also. I feel I have now reached 'peak set up' for my video needs with L Mount and just about there on my stills needs with a combo of Sony & Nikon. I don't need Lumix/L Mount to develop any further. I would have liked to have seen them do so, but the signs are now that they have stagnated. Big time. The S9 was and is OK and works for my needs. I could make a case for the S1Rii, but it would be a sideways move. For video, lens-wise, I'm covered. For stills though, I have one last fairly big decision to make. Well not so much make as I have already made it and that is re. a specific lens and when that happens, it also makes sense to go over whole hog, to Sony/e-Mount for both stills and video. It could not work for me in the other direction ie, there are still big holes for me in the stills department with L Mount. So sorry Lumix, the writing is on the wall. My wall at least. Nothing wrong with what you are currently providing for me, but I doubt very much whether I will be with you beyond October of this year. And that is on you.

Panasonic Lumix S1ii Conclave edition

So I went on L Mount Rumours for a sneak peek. Boring, both cameras and lens. The comments section is hilarious: ”Why did they not make it a 24-60 f1.4 and sell it for $450?” Keep smoking that whatever you are smoking bro 😎

Yes, sorry, I read and was thinking S1H!

The only time an action camera piqued my interest was when I came across that company with Bones in their name, who modified the things with cool little lenses. But then I realised I could get a small sensor such as the Sony RX100V. So did and that was the end of that.

S1IIE? Sounds like one of those really bad, over-priced ‘private’ number plate that Brits with more money than sense, spend their money on. I think it’s supposed to read phonetically as SILLY?

I expect the next gen will cost more, but still, why would anyone either not buy that or a used OG FX3? It just seems like a waste of time to me, but hey, what do I know?! Of more interest will be what Lumix pops out in this niche because lenses aside, an L Mount ‘FX3’ sounds more interesting to me than a Sony FX3.

Why would anyone bother with that? As a potential customer, are you simply not going to carry on with what you have and wait for the next gen, rather than trade it in with a big fat chunk of depreciation for this mildest of updates? For anyone (like me) who avoided due to the rear screen, (or went for it but has it rigged up anyway so not an issue), surely you are not going to buy one? Maybe I am missing something but makes zero sense to me. It would make more sense to be able to send in your old unit and have it upgraded for a reasonable amount?

So other than some plug in stuff, the screen it deserved in the first place because all Sony cameras prior to the FX30 and A7RV have dog shit rear LCD's. I was actually going to go with a pair of A7CR's over my single unit A7RV but for a couple of things, the dealbreaker being those rear screens. So this is the mildest of updates at best hence the FX3A moniker though IMO they should have called it B and then everyone could refer to the OG as the 'A' model.

Oh and can someone buy Lumix a 2025 calendar because it’s May 😱

So an FX3 with a higher res screen.

Is that such a bad thing? OK, maybe…

Special exception as she made them pre 1945.

Lucky the colour from the S5ii is not shitty then, or if it is, says more about the user than the camera 😜

Read that a few times about the S5ii and hoping for a better low light camera. My thoughts to that are 😂 and 🥱

It was a lot more than that with a completely different body. Other than the brand badge and the menu system, they were 2 very different cameras and the new S1Rii is far more like a bigger brother ‘upgrade’ to the S5ii than it is to the OG S1R. This is the thing. Other than a different body style, what will be the difference and will it be enough to matter? Everyone hopes for something groundbreaking such as internal ND, but unless it’s a high end ‘flagship’, that ain’t going to happen. I really would like to see something special but not going to hold my breath… I might be interested in a single unit if it does something extra special my S9 cannot. What would that have to be? Zero crop 4k 60p (ideally 6k 60p) open gate, water resistant and twin card slots in a small/compact package. I prefer using my S9 as my run & gun over my S5ii’s but yesterday got caught in heavy rain and that has me rethinking that slightly!

Damn, that’s a much better price than I paid even just a few months back, but hey ho. I am really intrigued now what it can do video-wise, especially with the current RED luts and anything future that may come in that regard. I guess I really need to shoot a straight heads up against my S9 because I think it could easily slip into that role as at least a run & gun video unit. That would then mean a switch to Nikon for all video needs which is something I have been complementing for 2026 anyway…

First time back out with the Zf (late 2023 camera!) shooting stills alongside the A7RV this weekend after ditching it (the Zf) in favour of moving over to the Sony early last year. Glad I bought one back. It’s such a great stills camera, my favourite ever now taking over from my previous faves which were the Fuji X100 series and X Pro2. The Zf is like an X Pro2 on steroids. I need to try it for video because that could be a little bit special…

I thought that about picking up some FX3’s and my next wedding film would look like a sequel to The Creator. But stupidly, I stuck with my S5ii’s 😒

I’d also be taking a look at the new Nikon Z5ii. Those more compact Tamron lenses will also work near natively with the Megadap adapter. It would make for a great relatively low cost, compact, high performing, affordable set up.

Each to their own Emanuel but your mathematics are not quite correct. Let’s say you are buying new and instead of the 2 Tamron lenses I referenced, you went with the new Sony, then the maths (in euros anyway) are: 4350 - (840 + 860) =2 650 f2 vs f2.8 is a pretty big deal to anyone that shoots indoors or very low light outdoors as I do. Not having to switch lenses is a massive deal to someone like me, even if that ‘one & done’ in the hand is more than the alternative. I have to work with 2 cameras (for stills) regardless because no single lens covers my needs nor ever will. At least not in my career lifetime because my focal range requirements on pretty much every job is 20-200mm. My current limit is 180mm but my A7Rv can easily make that last 20mm up. It can easily make up +90mm actually by switching to 26mp APSC crop mode, so the 150mm of the new Sony is no gap at all. Yes it can’t go wider than 50mm but that is a non-issue because the limitation when using the 70-180 is it is not quite wide enough (without lens switching) and when using the 28-75, not quite long enough. Having the 20-40 on a second body though only leave a gap of 40-50mm and that just is not something even worth considering. So for my specific use case, ball park $2500 (adjust for tariffs as an when), it’s a no-brainer! Yes it will cost me a bit more than that as I will have to sell 2x lenses to make it happen, but even then, it makes sense to me. Sigma doesn’t have anything currently that can compete against this. The closest would be the 28-105mm f2.8 and that is not close at all. Tamron and Samyang have their 35-150’s but they get to f2.8 very quickly and they extend when zooming like excited donkeys.