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It's insane that the sub 2k S5 ii has a built in fan and this doesn't.

I mean I like this guy's style but he is a sales person through and through. Manufacturer sends him gear, he's hyped over the moon THIS ONE THING WILL CHANGE FILMMAKING FOREVER, and on to the next thing

Really interested in the S5II/X package as well

Now this camera is out for a while, do any of you guys have any favorite LUTs for this camera that you use in the photo mode? i have a serious envy for Fuji and their film simulations.  Googling always gets me the same SEO optimized crap, so I was wondering if any of you have good recommendations 🙂

Ah yes, France, famously comparable to the authoritian regime routinely arresting and disappearing peaceful opposition leaders and protestors in the middle of the night, as well as installing an undemocratic puppet government through the systemic violent oppression of the people.

Get the fuck outta here man.

On 11/20/2023 at 8:38 PM, PannySVHS said:

Blackmagic states 65 to 162 MB per second, that's around 500 to 1300 Mbit per second. Long Gop of Lumix S series is 150 Mbps, so a third to an eigth of the numbers from BMs website for Q5.

Completely different numbers! But would love me some internal braw q5 on the next S camera. And punsh-in focus during recording.😊

So I already suspected Blackmagic is conservative about the minimum bitrates they list and this really confirms that. The 4k ipb Panasonic file is 109gigs, the 6k Blackmagic raw Q5 file is 114 gigs. Similar runtime down to a minute (94 minute record time). So yeah, completely different numbers, but in Blackmagic their favor.

I think Kye hasn't shot in a professional capacity for the last few decades at least? I don't mean to be rude and feel free to correct me, @kye, but I see a lot of authoritative statements from him but I'm pretty sure he just shoots home videos?

But how would a 28-70 2.8 improve your photography/videography over a 24-70 2.8? I'm genuinely asking, I've had multiple photographers at work who shoot Canon rent it, try it out, and NOT buy it because it's 1) really really really massive and 2) the 4mm on the wide end is actually more useful than a stop of extra light. I'm not being argumentative, I'm genuinely curious, because it sounds a bit like GAS to me.

I mean the 28-70 f2 and 24-105 2.8 are not available on E mount, Z mount, EF, F, and so on, yet millions of professionals still manage to work within that 'limitation'. If you need those lenses THAT bad, switch to RF, but it seems like a weird thing to hold against the L mount line up?

5 hours ago, IronFilm said:

The URSA Mini Pro G2 is a good choice.

I was doubting about getting a mini pro g2 instead of the 6k, because we use the Ursa's at work and I LOVE their form factor, but the G2 is in such a weird space. It's still 'current', as in they're available new on the BM website, but they haven't been updated in years, so all the new features (gen5, gyro stabilisation, new UI) haven't been available and I doubt they ever will be. Also some quality of life features from the 12k (especially higher nit screen) are not on there. Just a weird model.

Interesting thing about file sizes. I shot an event with the S5 II in IPB (it doesn't shoot All-I) in 4K and the Pocket 6K in Q5 in 16:9 6K and the Pocket 6K file sizes ended up a fraction smaller at 6K as the S5 did at 4k. Really amazing compression.

4 hours ago, kye said:

The latest test video from Matteo shows quite a difference in noise between the BMCC6K and BMPCC6K in the super-dark areas when be boosts the image up a bunch, so unless he did something wrong (which I doubt), it's noisier than the previous model:

However, it doesn't look visible unless he boosts the image to reveal it, so it's likely only an issue if you're not able to expose properly and/or want to see in the dark like night-vision-goggles.

Of course, this is the internet, so every tiny detail must be completely removed from reality and then blown up beyond any sense of reasonableness (then everyone can latch onto the least significant issues and argue solely based on those!).

Yeah so I realize this might just be confirmation bias on my part, as I currently haven't done a side by side. All I can say is I've shot a ton with the 4k/6k (although the 6k is almost always in the first gain stage) and I was really pleasantly surprised with the character (not the amount) of the noise.

And when it's dark I don't shoot to lift the shadows as if I'm shooting a circa 2008 Ken Rockwell HDR landscape photo. My blacks are black. I see the noise that's in the log and it's a ton, but that gets crushed anyway, what I care about is the relative lack of color noise in the exposed parts and the lack of color shifting. I'm planning on doing a side by side next week with the 6k.

So I've been shooting some low light footage with this camera and I have to say ... I don't see what everyone is complaining about. Yes, this camera is noisey, but coming from Ursa's and a Pocket 4K/6K, it's MILES ahead. Very organic noise with little color, and importantly, colors of subjects hold up very well. I think people have gotten so spoiled with low light shooting recently, while I'm pretty blown away with the low light footage coming from this camera.

The only thing which is really annoying (and BM PLEASE fix this), it that the large amount of (pleasant) noise completely throws off peaking above iso 1250, making it virtually useless. I can't recall this happening on my 6K ever.

I can't stress enough how much I believe external recorders suck, it's just one more thing to fail (and I've seen them fail multiple times, whether it was due to a bad cable, a cable getting yanked, an Atomos locking up, an output setting from the hdmi being checked/unchecked) etc. Sometimes it won't even register until there's playback.

2 hours ago, kye said:

Is it a fee per unit manufactured?  Per product model?  For the manufacturer?

No idea, I assume it's per unit but that's a total guess.

If there's a prores upgrade it will be paid, since Apple takes a hefty licensing fee for that as I understand it.

The braw sdk comes with a player that even supports Luts and metadata

Pulled the trigger on this after using the 4k for exactly five years (and the Ursa's at work a lot). I don't know if it is the biggest mistake not going for the 6K pro but I am really excited, especially after loving my S5 II (and in my eyes this camera is a 'proper' cinema S5 II). I'll keep you guys posted.

So that's about the same as the S5 II which seems ... dissapointing?

MrSMW, one of my colleagues uses the Pocket 6K Pro stripped down handheld all the time because he really likes the form factor. Works fine for him without IBIS. Me personally I have to add at least a vmount to get it stable but then you really do not need IBIS for it.

I can say I personally switched away from Canon (despite LOVING their cameras) when my R6 got lost because of the RF mount. When I bought it I figured more options would quickly become available, but there's just no reasonably priced upgrade path, unlike with L mount. You either buy crappy plastic 1.8 primes or 2500$ ultra amazing lenses.

I think Blackmagic is really struggling with their price point at the moment. L mount, a full frame sensor, these all probably add significant costs. Adding an electronic ND or redesigning the body to fit mechanical nds like the c70 did or even adding ProRes (something which Panasonic charges 200 euros for with the S5 II upgrade license) probably would have added too much cost or development time in their eyes. 

No I’m talking about the raw footage that you can download here: https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/nl/products/blackmagiccinemacamera/gallery

Anyone looked at the footage gallery on Blackmagic their website? Looks like a pretty big step up from the Pocket 6K to me. Super clean.

Looks like a great camera. I get why there’s no internal nds but man that’s a bummer. Also no 6k 50, but Blackmagic has been pretty good about pushing frame rates in updates.