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If this is true that’s a RED competitor, I wonder if this will ever see the light of day.

Maybe the global shutter Ursa/Production Camera 4k cameras. Relatively limited dynamic range but I always thought the color and look and feel of that camera was exceptional.

You should not need it. If you’re getting an error it’s likely your adapter: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4542718

Hey Folks!

I am currently saving up for a 12K. I got offered a really good deal on a secondhand 4.6k G2 with viewfinder, cards, etc. I would get the camera for roughly the price of a 6k pro and pay the rest in on set labor. I am however doubting with the 4.6k G2 no longer being supported through firmware etc... What do you guys think, am I a fool to turn this down or am I a moron for buying an older (2019 year) unsupported camera while there might be new stuff on the horizon?

Kye just one question and please don’t take this personal. How much have you

1. Tried to actually create a specific ‘aesthetic’ (let’s focus on that for a second and ignore all other considerations to a production, some of which might be more important than that aesthetic) in a real world scenario by:

- Conceiving a type of look you want up front, often in coordination with clients and collaborators that may have wishes or needs that differ slightly or massively from your own taste or initial instinct, 

- going about selecting the tools that you need for achieving this. Keep in mind that you will need to test this equipment because some ideas that you had up front that seemed great or that you’ve heard about as performing X might not actually create the effect that you thought they would in practice. Sometimes locations or the camera/lenses that you preferred will not be available due to whatever reason. You will still be expected to achieve the previously agreed upon look. Quitting because you couldn’t get an Alexa will never get you another job again.

- actually creating  the look on set and MAINTAINING it across different shots that may be shot days apart. Remember that you might have less time in the schedule than you thought or that conditions changed beyond your control, you will still be expected to come close to your initial idea otherwise your look won’t match.

- gone into a grading suite with a colorist and perhaps even a client and graded a large project in a very limited amount of time. Keep in mind that you will not be able to try fifty different experiments just for giggles because you will get fired.

vs. 
 

2. Downloaded some clips off the internet and played around -however skillfully or elaborately- with the footage on your pc.

Because everything I’ve seen from you  around here -and I might be wrong- indicates to me that you fall squarely into the second category. There’s nothing wrong with that and I do not mean to gatekeep or to shit on the enthusiasm for the craft that you regularly display on here (which is AWESOME!), but I am a little astounded by the confidence and boldness at which you make some claims.

Please reflect upon your skill and experience and consider displaying some humility (know what you DON’T know), especially when looking at your experience (enthusiastic amateur filming their family on vacation) versus that of Django (working professional that has actually used some of the equipment that you make such confident assertions about). 

We use the r6 and r5 as b cams for video at work. If you’d shot with them for any amount of time you know the ibis is not up to the task for professional work. The amount of times we got back to see weird warps on our footage is simply too high to trust it.

The yield of full frame sensors is lower. With the 12k already coming in at 10k initially (which a lot of people thought was way too expensive for a Blackmagic camera and which Blackmagic blamed on the sensor being designed in-house) I’m pretty sure the sensor would simply get too expensive for Blackmagic’s market range.

I switched from Sony back to Canon due to owning a lot of EF glass, but there's NO WAY they're releasing a 30p only 4k camera in 2021, right?

21 hours ago, Alexis Fontana said:

So - there’s a few things going on here. 
 

I suggest you try to google “what is a 3dlut” and watch some of many good videos that explains the concept. 
 

Always try to avoid thin pinstripes in talents clothes, as they will often create moire as in your shot. 
 

Also - try to point the microphone towards the talents mouth instead of pointing down. 

Those mics are omnidirectional so what are you on about. Pointing the mic down is a common technique to avoid popping sounds from the person speaking, as pointed out by OP.

It’s a shame because if I read CineD’s test correctly the G2 is still the leader of the pack in dynamic range. In this tense the 12K has felt like a step back from the beginning.

Works flawlessly on adapted lenses. Focus pulls are a bit more aggressively and in some cases are a bit more jittery and less reliable on lenses with motors that weren’t really designed for video autofocus (I’m thinking of the Sigma Art 85 specifically) but it’s still totally acceptable and usable in my experience. 

Every camera needs proper lighting. If you’re only lighting stuff to get your exposure then maybe the 12k is in fact not the camera for you. I’m excited about the Ursa because the company I’m working at is currently moving to get a step above one man band types of shoots (which hey, if that’s your thing more power to you) to always control lighting, have a more narrative focussed approach, and to not show up handholding a S1h because the image is ‘basically good enough’.

6 hours ago, herein2020 said:

Regardless of what it is meant for, it doesn't change the fact that the support system needed to get quality footage out of this camera costs many times more than the camera itself.

I watched the CVP video on my 4K video editing monitor and I think my problem is the subject material that they filmed just wasn't the right material to really showcase this camera. Nature, water, fire, dim lighting, etc all are things that nearly any modern camera can handle.  A videographer friend showed me a video a few months ago filmed with the 12K (I don't know the link to it) that literally blew my mind.  It was more of a corporate setting with many different shapes, colors, etc. and razor sharp detail shots like nothing I've ever seen. 

I agree with you; I am not a fan of any Sony products, older or newer including the A7S3; but I do think for the specific scenes they showed in the CVP video, even the A7S3 could have produced the same quality.

How is it more expensive than on the 1295 Pocket 4K? Please explain.

That’s the naming convention for virtually all camera’s they have. And it’s a 12k sensor. But Blackmagic themselves stated upon release that they’re not expecting everyone to jump to a 12k workflow but that going with a 12k sensor allows for oversampled 8k in camera. 

Guys this camera is not meant to primarily shoot 12K. It downsamples BRAW in camera, so the RGBW sensor enables full sensor full rgb over sampled 8k and 4k. THAT’S the selling point, not the 12k.

Maybe a stupid question but why can’t you focus manually? I see so many people acting like no af=oof shots, but you’re operating the camera, right? I own a blackmagic camera and one with af that is supposedly much better than the fs7 (r6) as a second camera for interviews, and the amount of times I get oof shots with the blackmagic is way way way less (because I have my hands on the lens) than with the r6, who has very good af but who I cannot trust in the same way to not jump to something else or suddenly focus and refocus. 

Great question. I think I'm looking for a few things. The big one is form factor: I really dislike rigging an re-rigging the Pocket whenever I want to go from shoulder to handheld and so on. I really want internal nds, and I want more dynamic range. I thought the Ursa had significantly more dynamic range than the 6k?

Hey folks, I've asked this question on the Blackmagic forums (which is a great place), but I like to get my information from a wide source, maybe there's some folks who have experience in this matter or are going through the same process. I'd love to hear your thoughts!

I'm looking for an upgrade to my Pocket 4K (which I love and which has served me very well). The lack of updates for the G2 seriously makes me hold off on buying one because it makes it feel like an end-of-life product. It also feels like the 6K Pro approaches 99% of the G2 its features (and bests it in some way) for less than half the price currently. What are you guys thought on this?

I have a R6 as a 'b-cam' with autofocus, but it has a lot of weird quirks. 4k25 has horrible unusable rolling shutter. However 4k50 doesn't but overheats like crazy. 1080p (which would be fine for me) on full frame has aliasing. I haven't really inspected the crop modes yet but it probably has something weird going on as well, haha.

I can't believe Nikon entered the digital cinema camera line in the 1960s and has been steadily improving and expanding upon it ever since. Incredible.

A clicking drive is always awful as far as I know.

Thanks for the advice guys! Regarding the R, I thought about that, but I need at least a 10-bit camera if I am going to match it with my Pocket, I had an 8-bit camera (a7r II) and there's just no proper matching to be done on a cam like that in my opinion; skin tones especially go super waxy.

Alright folks I really need some buying advice ... 

I’m a videographer that does 90% commercial video, 10% photography. I’m filming on a Pocket 4K which I’m EXTREMELY happy with and am looking for a second camera. I’ve just sold my A7rii and now am doubting heavily between a Pocket 6K pro and a Canon r6. I own all Canon ef lenses by the way. These two cameras are roughly the same price in my country.
 

The choice in my head is: Pocket for image quality, internal nds, way better screen, just an all around much better video camera. I’d rent or borrow a photo camera on the rare occasion I would need to.
Canon for size, ibis, and especially AUTOFOCUS. I often operate by myself and really like the idea of an af capable second camera. My main concern is that nothing about the image blows me away like the Blackmagics do. I’ve tested an R5 and were left kinda ‘meh’ with the image.
 

What would you guys do here? 😕 

So I’m bumping this thread because I’ve been offered a very good deal on a Nanlite 300. My other lights are 120ds (1 and 2) and I am just wondering if the lights mix tint wise. I’m a bit worried about, let’s say, purple fill lights because of different tints.

Dude, that's amazing! Almost made me tear up! Such a great camera still 🙂