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I think the S1H has a slightly nicer image, but I think the benefits of the X and the convenience of having three of the same cameras makes more sense.

If it had a mic input I wouldn't have sold it because then I could've used it in most of my work. I really do miss it, but it was hard to justify keeping for the couple times a year when I needed to be able to have a more discreet set up, whether it was because I was filming somewhere I wasn't supposed to or because I just wanted to keep a low profile. In most cases the GH5 without the cage and stuff was discreet enough.

By open mount I meant it's a mount that other camera manufacturers have been able to use on their cameras. The only other company that has let others do that is Canon through whatever deal they've made with RED. It would stand to reason that if BMD (or anyone, really) was going to go with a mirrorless mount for their cameras the most logical direction would be the L-mount, since it's the only mount that has been adopted by multiple companies. I suspect DJI will also be using the mount in some way since it joined the alliance. I don't know of any company that has been allowed to use the e-mount on their cameras. It's also, technically speaking, not the best mount, so outside the lens selection I don't know that it'd hold a ton of appeal for other companies. Hasn't it been speculated that one of the reasons their IBIS is so poor is because of how small the mount is compared to the sensor?

For me M43 will always be the ideal system, it just got caught up in the specs race. And for a while, it was leading, but slowly the advantages that made it attractive to me started to dwindle because the wanted to appeal to a customer base that wasn't going to buy into M43 no matter what, which resulted in larger bodies and phasing out smaller ones. Tiny bodies with exceptional photo and video capabilities interest me more than a GH6 or a future GH7, but they've seemingly abandoned that market completely. If they'd released a GH5 (or GH6) in the body of a GX camera I honestly would've held out and kept one foot in the M43 system, because that kind of setup, with the right lenses, is something that full frame will never, ever be able to achieve. Full frame will never be able to match the compactness of a GX body and the 12-35 or 35-100. Those lenses with the GX85 were probably my favorite set up I've ever used, especially for concerts and getting into venues that didn't allow "professional" video gear. No one ever looked twice when I'd bring that set up with me! As much as I loved it though, the limitations made me sell it last year. The problem is, I don't know if there is even a big enough market for cameras like that anymore. I assume if there was Panasonic would've continued it? It's hard to imagine that heading into full frame didn't impact the R&D that went into M43 though, which feels like the bigger culprit. But it seems to be paying dividends as the S5 II and S5 II X are being well received, so I guess it's hard to fault them with seeing the writing on the wall? I don't know. I just think it's a shame that we will probably never see what M43 is truly capable of, because I think we COULD see even smaller bodies and lenses without significant compromises if the resources were allocated to do so. I don't think people should rush to offload their M43 gear because there are still some years left in it, and there absolutely are benefits over full frame. I'm sure I'll miss my trusty GH5 once I do my first shoot without it, I was prepared to keep it for a couple more years and didn't have much reason to want to upgrade. But I was just given an off ramp that I kind of had to take. Selling the GH5 and the 12-35mm paid for the S5 and (excellent) kit lens, not to mention what i got for the others, so I ended up ahead financially. Plus having three of the same cameras will make things easier for me. But there's still a lot to love about M43.

I film professional wrestling using two (now three) S5 bodies. The AF is more than adequate. The biggest obstacle to getting good stills from the footage isn't the AF but the shutter speed. I film using a 180 degree shutter angle, but I'm sure I could get good results by adjusting it if I didn't care about the impact it'd have on the footage. When there isn't a ton of movement I'll take a still to use for social media, but the motion blur during heavy action just isn't flattering. Here are some ones I've taken for social media/YouTube thumbnails. These are downloaded from Facebook since I'm on my phone but it gives you a general idea. I can post higher resolution versions tomorrow if anyone wants them.

Out of all the mirrorless mounts it makes the most sense that they'd go with the L-mount due to its open nature. There aren't really many alternatives.

Yes, at the expense of possibly making your video look weird. If you don't mind your video having a Saving Private Right effect then go for it!

It should be noted that shutter speed and shutter angle are different. A higher shutter angle would increase blur. A higher shutter speed would decrease blur. If you're filming on a Sony you'll want to focus on shutter degree since it doesn't have shutter angle.

It can cause unnatural looking motion to your video.

It's not so much the frame rate that is the issue, it's the shutter speed. If you don't mind video that has motion that is a little off you can shoot at a higher shutter speed and get better results. But if you're trying to stick to the 180 degree shutter rule for video you're going to get motion blur during action shots. There's not a ton you can do to get around that.

You really can't. For me, I never cared about the sensor size, it was the compact set ups that really appealed to me. I never felt like I was compromising much at all shooting with M43 and with Lumix cameras. I could work around their limitations (and continue to do so with my S5s) because what I was getting out of them was so good, especially for the time. My favorite combo of all time might genuinely be the GX85 and 35-100mm. So small, and the footage you'd get out of it was soooo good. I was given an exit ramp that made too much sense.

You can get decent stills from 4K video, it's just not a reliable way to do so, especially for action sports. Even with the best auto focus it'll be hard to get frames without some motion blur.

After my close friend decided to upgrade to the Lumix S5 II X he gave me an incredible deal on his Lumix S5 that I couldn't pass up. As a result I just finished packing up my trusty GH5, 12-35mm mk II, 35-100mm mk I, 25mm, and 14mm to ship off to MPB. For the first time in nearly a decade I will no longer have any M43 cameras or lenses. I think my time in the system has finally come to an (unplanned) end. 😞 I'm feeling some kind of way about it right now, honestly. I still believe in the promise of M43, I just don't know that Panasonic will ever realize it or if the market will ever be there to make it viable. It's a damn shame, honestly. I'll be happy with my full frame cameras, and having three of the same bodies will make things a bit easier for me, but I still can't help but wish there was a professional level compact M43 camera that could fit my needs and fit in with my two S5 bodies. I just don't see it happening. I had planned to always have at least one M43 camera in my kit. Eventually I was going to upgrade to the GH6 in a couple years, once they were even more affordable on the used market, but I couldn't pass on another S5 with kit lens for $750, so plans changed. It just didn't make sense to keep the GH5 and follow through with my original plans anymore, as these three S5 bodies will get me through until I can snag some S5 II bodies in a couple years when people upgrade to the latest camera. The GH5 was a total game changer for me and my work. I'm sad to see it go, because in many ways it did things that I never thought a camera would be able to do. It really cannot be overstated how much the IBIS changed things for people like me. I no longer had to set up a cumbersome shoulder rig, I could simply hold it and get steady shots even as I rushed around a wrestling ring and dodged people flying all over the place! Life goes on though, I guess.

I was looking at MPB just now, looking for lenses for my S5, and boy has the selection declined in the last couple months. There used to be plenty copies of every lens but now they don't have certain lenses at all or just one or two. I suspect it's a sign that the S5ii and S5iiX have done well and caused people to go out and buy a lot of lenses.

When I sold most of my M43 gear to get the S5 bodies I was very briefly bummed when the S5ii was announced. But then I remembered that I basically paid slightly more to get two S5 bodies than what I'd have paid to get one S5ii. I think I paid about $2100 total for both, after selling the extra accessories I didn't need that came with them? And those two, along with my GH5, will be a powerful trio for years to come, especially when it comes to event videography. I got the most out of my small budget and couldn't be happier. And when the time comes to upgrade, I'll do the same and be just as happy because I didn't spend thousands of dollars on a camera that immediately lost hundreds in value once I opened the box. Waiting two or three years to buy a S5ii or S5iix for %50 less than what I'd have paid for it brand new sounds like a pretty good plan to me! I'll give them a nice new home and lease on life! 🙂

As someone that is using two S5 bodies and a GH5 for a multicam set up... If you don't find yourself in a situation where you're struggling with something that the S5ii would do better, then there isn't really a compelling reason to "upgrade." My plan is to upgrade to the S5ii (or S5iix) in a couple years, when a successor to it or the S1/S1H is released and the used price goes down. I made a post a few weeks back talking about how I am done buying new and am perfectly content with being a generation behind, because all of these cameras are so good at this point that it doesn't really matter. Yeah, there are definitely quality of life upgrades but none of them are worth the cost for me. The S5 will produce an excellent image for years to come, and ultimately that's what matters to me. When the used price becomes compelling enough I'll start planning to upgrade, but I'm done investing thousands of dollars into camera bodies that won't retain their value much at all. I'll let others take that hit and just wait. 🙂

Hey @Eric Matyas! Are these able to be used at a public event without a license from ASCAP, BMI, etc?

You're like a roller coaster, I love it!

So... what is the deal with DP Review? Content is still being published to the site, and there was even a new video posted about the Lumix S5IIX. Anyone have any idea what is going on?

My general rule, as someone that likes to spend as little money as possible, is to run the camera into the ground and only upgrade when it stops working or it no longer can do what you need it to do. I'm still running a GH5 and don't see a scenario where I "upgrade" for at least another year. There just isn't a need to. The image I get from it is more than enough, and the stabilization is still great. Those are my primary needs. I think Nikon is a fine system to invest in, and I think they are one of the most forward thinking companies when it comes to video right now. And with lenses you'll still get a decent amount back if you decide to sell them. Just my two cents!

It's really hard not to root for Nikon given how hard they are working to stay relevant and trying to carve out a piece of the video pie. I am not in a position to switch from Lumix and the L-mount, but if I were in a position to do so Nikon would be the favorite. The thing is though that Lumix will release something within the next year that will make me want to stay, haha. I do hope though that Nikon is rewarded for the effort they've put in. They've definitely been amongst the most forward thinking companies since the full frame mirrorless transition, which is even more notable given how it feels like some companies are taking steps backwards (:cough: Sony :cough:)

This is really unfortunate. DPReview seems to still be active. It's strange. They even posted a video (not by Chris & Jordan) on YouTube.

I think it's ridiculous that people need to even come up with their own solutions to a problem that shouldn't exist to begin with. That's just me though!

Lol, this stuff is ridiculous.