Ken Ross

I noticed something else as well.  What's with this DR graphic.
In this picture they try to paint the Panasonic as having lower DR than the Fuji,  but when you put them side by side that are almost exactly the same.  I find this lame at best. 
 

In those words lie maybe one of the biggest issues regarding the GH5 & 4, or really any other Hybrid/Dslr style camera for that matter....
"I've uploaded way more Panasonic videos than Fuji - not because the image quality of the G85 is better, but because it is so much easier to just pick up and start shooting video."
Jonpais 
When you're shooting a feature or a commercial or any other narrative form, how the camera handles....the interfaces for selecting  images...accessing menus....manually controlling the camera  etc. is everything...and the GH5 comes in squarely, after purely dedicated cinema cameras...and when you're chasing beauty light with 20 min to go, that counts for more anything else does....and of course reliability...we are already into a ridiculous realm in terms of image even in sub $1000 cameras...the reality is it's no longer about the camera, but a lot more about the discussion of the camera!....of course I'm equally guilty of that.... 
 

@Andrew Reid
Totally agree with your points Andrew!
And if I sum it up:
They've disable the NR on the GH5 (at least that's what I understood) than complained they see noise in the shadows :)), so "the DR must be low". Heck I downloaded their test, brightened the shadows and applied a little bit of NR and whoops the DR is over 12 stops.
They complain about bad color on Vlog but they edit the log profile with LUTS. :))
They complain about lack of detail but they've dialed the sharpness to a minimum cause it's to much...seriously?
They see no advantage in 10 bits vs 8 bits but never show any example, like on a plain sky with a blue gradient + heavy grading.
They complain about soft 180 fps on the GH5 but never complain about the utterly crap Canon 1080p in DLSM's, which is nowhere near at 30fps compare the the GH5 180 fps.
Etc, etc.

Dynamic Range tests have become something of a joke nowadays. They remind me of the lovely shoet story titled Many Moons written by James Thurber, where every guy in the kingdom believes himself to be smarter than the other.
Cinema5D rated the A7S at 12 stops of dynamic range, so rating the GH5 at 10-11 is actually pretty good. They probably remove 30% of the manufacturer's stated figures for the RED cameras. RED says 18 stops on the RED Weapon and Cinema5D will conveniently say12 stops. Or less. 
I feel, that they have a curious bias against Panasonic Cameras. I personally hate anything Panasonic right now,  since my GX85 fiasco refuses to end. But, for the price, there isn't a better camera manufacturer for Indie Filmmakers out there. Panasonic gets way too many things right. Having 1 stop less of dynamic range doesn't even matter. Cinema5D praised the Sony RX100 to no end. And yet there was no mention of testing of great cameras like the G7, GX85, G85 etc. They definitely have a bias against Panasonic.
And unlike me, they don't really gave against justifiable reason. 

Cinema5D have put the Panasonic GH5 on test, with a few charts and have some harsh words for the new 10bit mirrorless camera.
I don't agree with much of their criticism.
Here's an alternative opinion.
Read the full blog post

That is a good question, but I don't think anyone knows the answer. Currently there seems little need for this since few cameras use H265. There is much greater need for updated and new camera formats such as MXF. Apple supports these either in FCPX or the downloadable Pro Video Formats: https://support.apple.com/kb/DL1898?locale=en_US
Like Adobe does with Premiere Pro, Apple has a trial version of FCPX. If Apple added H265 support to FCPX, the licensing issues might force them to make a special "eval" version without H265. This confuses customers since they expect to evaluate the product against all codecs and formats. In fact Adobe claims the trial version of Premiere CC is absolutely full-featured, but it does not have H265 support. There is little Adobe can do about that since the H265 patent holders probably demand royalties from every copy, which conflicts with a free trial version.
No software developer likes making special versions. Even though the source code change may be small, it still requires separate full-spectrum testing for function, performance, reliability and regressions. Adobe went ahead and did this for their trial version, but Apple may have decided it's not worth the expense and effort at this time.
Also H265 is extremely compute-intensive to edit -- much more than H264. Except on a limited set of machines 4k H265 would likely require transcoding to provide good editing performance. The few people who need to edit H265 can already transcode it externally. That is not as convenient but until recently every Premiere user on earth had to externally transcode if they wanted proxy capability. Apple may think the few who need H265 support in FCPX can transcode externally for now.

The way I saw Driftwood's piece was someone who is leaving somewhere special and looking at what he's leaving, on the other hand after a second and third look I wondered if it was a man who wants to embrace and live in this beautiful piece of the world. may be I'll give it another look tomorrow and decide what it is he's telling from my perspective. I reckon he's much more than just Driftwood the hacker and camera geek. 
btw, do you analyze all you see shot by shot, 'cause I don't, as I beleive substance will always win in the end.
I don't think I'll stay up all night grabbing screen shoots Jon, so you win in that department mate, but I do look forward to your screen shots and analysis. 

@Ken Ross I liked it. composition, exposure, the geometry of landscape, and the music. Driftwood is the complete package when it comes to telling a story. 

OK...let me create a shitstorm...all this crap about color science is fucking exhausting...so I'll say....in a camera choice, for me, I prefer Panasonic as more color accurate...I don't want a camera or a computer or a fucking iPhone to create colors that are NOT in front of me and make me think what an incredible photographer I am...it's an easy cheat IMO...I prefer to start with an accurate WB and have a colorist do what I need....in post....to suit the storyline or the mood I'm attempting to create...that's all I want from a camera...an unvarnished image of what is in front of me...for me, the rest comes from post....very little is really ever created by zooming in 400% on still image on a desktop and finding flaws in images.... on the other hand a lot of beautiful work is created by people with imagination on deeply flawed cameras...and reading between the lines, I love this camera....warts and all....

Comparing the 2K camera to to 15K camera, just wow, have you taken your pills mate? :D 

The GH5 is the first time I am willing to trade dynamic-range for ergonomics.

I am absolutely sick of rigging up cameras, if not with external monitors, than with shoulder-rigs and whatnot.

For my personal shooting style, the 5-Axis on-sensor IBIS, high-res EVF and LCD, and 10-bit internal, make up for the lack of dynamic-range and usable 12,800ISO (which I wouldn't even use, anyway).

Sure looks like some kind of NR added. idynamic and iresolution maxed?
The high iso with neat video looks like neat video has not been applied correctly - it's pulsing in and out. Makes it worse than not having it. 

I have a rule. Even with A7S. If you need more than 1600ISO, you probably shouldn't be shooting there in the first place. Either change the scene's location, or use lights. Simple.

Doesn't look all THAT bad to me.
Sure the other cameras look better and I wouldn't want to use the GH5 at ISO 6400 anyway unless I had to.      I think for the A6500 I wouldn't want to use at ISO 12800 unless I had to but any of these cameras is not going to be at its best over ISO 3200 anyway.
GH5 seems like it will be a wonderful camera for video (regardless of sensor size) as long as you can control the light or keep it at lower ISOs.     It will also be a nice M4/3 stills camera with all the normal pluses and minuses the sensor size gives.
Maybe in a couple of generations, M4/3 will have the low light/high ISO that some want but just seems beyond M4/3s for now. 

Knowing IR, you're comparing JPEG engines.

When you watch ICE by Griffin Hammond, it must be fair to assume that they don't have a clue at DP when it comes to actually filming anything on both a technical and artistic level. Good job I am not a conspiracy theorist because I would swear that their effort was sabotage on behalf of other camera companies they have a good relationship with.

Does ANYBODY have a proper comparison video up yet?
What about a direct split screen comparison between the 10bit and 8bit mode? And does 10bit make a difference in the grade?
Aside from Neumann all the coverage this time has been total lightweight fluff. Really lazy. Quickly punted out, to collect hits. I honestly don't think any of the testers have put more than 5 minutes of work per video into what they have done. Can't find anything comprehensive at all.
They really should have given me a camera, the retards 
 
 
I have to agree with your sentiments here - however Griffin Hammond's work was fantastic  - it was great to see a complete production done in low light with such a great look.
I reckon your gh3 and Gh4 guides helped sell a lot of ghs in the past- I am really surprised you didn't get a GH5 - much  of the GH5 content posted has certainly been very amateurish.

Matt Frazer about Autofocus:
 
GH5 Focustracking Test:
 
GH5 autofocus tracking  Zoom 40mm low light at 3200 iso
 
GH5 Autofocus and Dual IS testing
 
Setup for Back Button Autofocus for GH cameras
 

It's still pre-release firmware, I think we should save the condemnations for the final release version.

Thanks for sharing. I liked the video quality and good stabilization of G85/14-140mm II. I liked the colors, sharpness and calm camera handling. Low light is quite good with f3.5. I have 14-140mm II/GH4 and the lens OIS is vibrating badly. Glad to know when I get GH5 I can use the 14-140mm with good quality.
Can you remember what settings you used in this video? Profile, contrast, NR, sharpen, exposure mode, possible idynamic etc