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Absolutely not ideal that its not built in. However, the way to deal with that though is to use the third C setting as the current working setting and save that before exiting. So when you initially turn the camera on you would load C1 as a base point to work from if you wanted to use Cinelike D or C2 if you want to use a standard profile. These would contain the basic stuff like frame size and shutter (which generally won't change as it'll be 180degrees), a base ISO (which again could be fixed and will be probably be 800 on these cameras?) etc so you can get going quickly, then as soon as you've changed your aperture and WB you save it and subsequent changes to C3. If you're using manual aperture lenses of course then that takes care of itself in terms of recalling its setting on power on/off That way its there when you switch the camera back on as it reverts to the last C setting you were using before power off. From there on in for that day or whatever you just keep overwriting C3 when you make changes. Its a lot more intuitive than it sounds !

Yeah, apologies for that, wasn't being very exacting just getting something with some range in it to show that Cinelike D is possible on the GX80 rather than showing it as a way of working if you know what I mean. Hopefully now I've put it out there people can run more tests to put up to compare it with the other profiles as I've got a bit more digging around to be doing for a while

OK So for anyone wanting to try this, I have made a really simple method to do it. I have tested this numerous times on my GX80 and it has lived to tell the tale but obviously do this at your own risk. All that this process does is fool the camera into thinking its talking to the smartphone app and then the commands it sends are exactly what the smartphone app sends. Or would do if the smartphone app thought it was talking to a camera equipped with Cinelike D ! So as such it is only getting sent what the Panasonic app would be sending to it so there are no hacky or sneaky debug things getting sent to it. Again, though, proceed at your own risk. Although I would say, if you’ve tried that region switching hack on YouTube with the 10 million key press combos during power up then you’re already brave enough to try this! Bear in mind that my unit is a GX80 and the firmware is version 1.0 If you have a GX85 or have got a different firmware then I just don’t know because obviously I haven’t got any other devices to test it on. Here we go then…. Follow these instructions exactly and you should have Cinelike D on your GX80/85 You will need a laptop or a phone with a browser, the camera and to download the simple html file attached. 1) Switch on camera and turn on wifi as though you were connecting the app and you should see the waiting screen on the camera 2) Load the Deploy Cinelike D.html file into your browser 3) Select ‘Handshake’ 4) You should see the browser page change and it confirm that its connected to a GX80 5) Hit the back key on the browser 6) Select ‘Connect’ 7) You should see the browser page change to say ‘ok’ and the camera give you an ‘Under Remote Control’ message 8) Wait until the camera screen shows you a live view 9) Hit the back key on the browser 10) Select ‘Deploy’ 11) You should see the browser page change to say ‘ok’ and the camera should NOT now be displaying the Photo Style you had selected (i.e. Standard, Vivid etc) 12) Cinelike D is now active on the camera 13) If you go into the menu on the camera and select Photo Style you will see that it is blank and you can’t navigate to other Photo Styles such as Standard etc. 14) To restore the Photo Styles hit the back button on the browser and select ‘Restore’ and the camera will display the Standard photo style and you should then be able to go into Photo Styles and change them. 15) Repeat 9-14 to switch between them to your hearts content! So, like other settings, the Cinelike D profile will persist when you switch the camera off so if you want to use the other Photo Styles again then you MUST go this process again to re-enable them. However, if you would like to switch between them without using this method again (and who wouldn’t) here is a neat way round it. When you’ve done Step 12 and got Cinelike D on, set all your other parameters (4K24p etc) as you’d like them and save these into C1 of the custom settings. Then go to Step 14 and use the ‘Restore’ to get your standard Photo Styles back, set all your other parameters (4K24p etc) as you’d like them and then save these into C2 of the custom settings. Now when you switch the camera on, you simply choose C1 to have Cinelike D or C2 for the standard Photo Styles and forget about using any nonsense about using browsers and wifi connections! In couple of weeks I’m hoping to show you how you can do stuff like this and some other useful bits and pieces from a little hardware gadget that will work on the Panasonic cameras but have fun with this in the meantime. DEPLOY CINELIKE D.html

Kind of but its actually a lot more basic than that to be honest mate and doesn't require any modification of the app. I've got a really simple way of testing it if anyone wants to have a go themselves?

I think one advantage of it for many people is that there are a large number of LUTs available that use Cinelike D as a base point so it might appeal on that level.

Well it was never going to be a low light monster but I can let you have ISO50000 now if you want it as well Top ISO6400 (max for video) Middle ISO25600 (standard max for stills) Bottom ISO50000 (modified max for stills) It still reports it as 25600 in the exif funnily enough. And it doesn't display it onscreen either, just like it doesn't with the Cinelike D So there seems to be a mismatch between the values it writes in the metadata and displays on screen with what it can actually be made to do. This is very potentially very interesting regarding a bitrate I thought I'd persuaded it to do earlier......

No, its easy and it does persist on switch off. But that can be an issue as once you've enabled it you then needed to then use the wifi to go back to the other profiles. And when I say 'you then needed to' I mean in the past tense as I've worked out a way to make it permanently switchable in camera using the C functions so you dedicate one of them to being Cinelike D and you must have one of the others set to Standard or another one of the profiles so you can switch back to them otherwise you'd have to use the wifi. I'm working on something that will be quite the useful little standalone gadget for these Panasonic cameras but for now it can be done using a laptop or phone. I do have an LX100. It currently does 'something' and I just need to work out why that 'something' isn't currently the 'something' we want it to do.

I'm exploring some permanence using the custom C options to give you a switchable configuration. By 'exploring' I mean double checking as I already have it working. I'm just working on this prototype version of making a mic input appear via wifi

As per the image above, it is very close to Cinelike D. By which I mean, it actually is Cinelike D

I'm not confirming or denying anything but check out the comparison image in the new thread

Just to illustrate this, erm, 'non standard' profile for the GX80/85 here is a comparison collage. The top picture is a G7 using Cinelike D and the bottom one is a GX80 using this non standard profile. Strange eh?

I'm just working on something to make it a bit more readily deployable in the field and then I'll post it up.

As mentioned in the other thread for @jonpais and @mercer here are some grabs from a G7 to compare a Contax Zeiss 50mm f1.7 with a modern Nikon 50mm AFS f1.8G. Not the most thrilling of shots but set up to compare colour, sharpness and DOF on a typical MFT camera. Profile on the G7 was set to Cinelike D Lenses were both mounted on inexpensive basic C/Y and Nikon G to MFT adapters. I'd originally planned to use speedboosters but as per the other thread last week the C/Y to MFT adapter I've got is more or less a very expensive soft focus filter. The guitar was 1.8metres from the camera and the focus and colour charts an additional 60cm behind it and then obviously a distant background. Shots were at f1.7 (Nikon had to be exposure matched as its max aperture is f1.8) and f5.6. The four compilations here show focus on guitar and then charts at both apertures. In each one, the Contax Zeiss is the image on the top and the Nikon on the bottom. All compilations are from JPEG frame exports of uncorrected clips from a 4K FCPX timeline. Draw your own conclusions obviously but any marked difference is not leaping off the screen really. Cost wise, there isn't a lot in it either with a used Contax Zeiss being around £150 on eBay and more or less the same for a used Nikon as tested here. Plus point for the Nikon is obviously if you have a Nikon camera to put it on then you also get AF. Plus points for the Contax Zeiss are very slightly wider aperture, manual aperture ring, a bit more of a forgiving focus ring IMO and a more compact form factor.

I've got the same lens. I'll try it on the X-T20 and X-T2 when I get a chance today or tomorrow and see if its the same. I expect it will be similar and I've a feeling it might have some variance between the X-T20 and X-T2 because of the different crop.

<cough> Ready your wallet <cough>

So, as some of you may know, I've been "experimenting" with having little chats with different Panasonic cameras over WiFi and after whispering in the GX80s ear last night, I may have come up with something quite interesting. The first image is a grab from a GX80 using its Standard profile. The second image is a grab from a GX80 that is definitely not using the Standard profile.......

The Yuneec Breeze is about €330 here in Spain. Far less featured and bigger but probably enough for the target market for this one which is why I thought DJI would come in at the same price. The Zerotech Dobby is similarly priced too. Never seen anyone using either one in the wild though.....

Now then........ I doubt I've got the wherewithal to get your 100mbit HD going but I might have just got something reasonably interesting working on the GX80. I need to do a proper controlled test against a G7 in the morning to confirm it but I'm cautiously optimistic. Stay tuned

Well, thats very interesting! I suspected there would be some sort of engineering/debug mode it could be put into and what they're showing in those videos is such a specific set of button press combinations that no way has someone just stumbled on it! The really, curious thing is from this particular video. And more to the point, why no one has picked up the VERY interesting entry in the Setup screen when he's scrolling through it. He does it quickly so I've attached a screenshot of it here......ROM BACKUP??????

Wow. Not far off being recycled as a Scooby Doo transition that

I can offer you a speedboosted Contax Zeiss 50mm 1.7 vs speedboosted modern Nikon G 50mm vs non-speedboosted Sigma 35mm ART comparison on a GX80 if you're interested?

It would have to do RAW though as it's a tough crowd on here drone wise.

It being primarily gesture driven that is giving food for thought. You can imagine someone in a group of friends launching it and them all waving at it and it getting utterly confused about which one of them it should be reacting to! This is exactly how much I thought it would be as well. I reckon a whole load of young vloggers who've been waiting on this have just gone "oh".

Full press release --------- DJI Launches Spark, The Easy And Fun Camera Drone For Everyone DJI Europe - May 24, 2017 17:00 BST DJI Spark DJI, the world’s leader in civilian drones and aerial imaging technology, has launched the DJI Spark, an easy-to-use, fun-to-fly mini camera drone that lifts off from the palm of your hand to capture and share the special moments in your life on the go. Thanks to DJI’s powerful technology, Spark is the first drone that users can control by hand gestures alone, successfully removing the barriers between you and your camera in the sky. Even if you’ve never flown a drone before, flying Spark is easy because the only remote controller you’ll need is your hand. When Spark takes off from your hand, it automatically enters Gesture Mode. This features new advanced gesture controls like PalmControl, which lets users control Spark with hand movements.[1] In Gesture Mode, you can also send Spark up and away from you, take a selfie, and call it back with just your hands. “Controlling a camera drone with hand movements alone is a major step towards making aerial technology an intuitive part of everyone’s daily life, from work and adventure to moments with friends and family,” said Paul Pan, Senior Product Manager at DJI. “Spark’s revolutionary new interface lets you effortlessly extend your point of view to the air, making it easier than ever to capture and share the world from new perspectives.” Spark has been designed to be the perfect lifestyle accessory you can take anywhere. It fits easily in almost any bag and weighs 300 grams – less than a can of soft drink. Spark is ready to launch within seconds whenever inspiration strikes and can be operated by a remote controller, a mobile device, or hand gestures alone. Spark will be available in five different colours: Alpine White, Sky Blue, Meadow Green, Lava Red, and Sunrise Yellow. Visually Smart, Incredibly Intuitive Spark comes with new and exciting flight options that empower you to effortlessly capture and share your memorable moments. The new QuickShot Intelligent Flight Mode makes creating professional videos fun and easy. Select a QuickShot, and Spark will fly along a preset flight path while recording a short video and tracking a subject along the way. Four QuickShots are available: Rocket, sending Spark straight up into the air with the camera pointed down; Dronie, flying up and away from your subject; Circle, rotating around the subject; and Helix, spiraling away from a subject as it flies upward. For each QuickShot, Spark will automatically create a 10-second video from your flight that is ready to share on social media, where everyone can see your special moments. Previously introduced Intelligent Flight Modes such as TapFly and ActiveTrack can also be found on Spark. Developed based on DJI's vision technology, a new TapFly sub mode called Coordinate allows Spark to fly to a location you tap on your mobile device screen. TapFly’s Direction Mode lets you keep flying in the direction you tap on the screen. Using ActiveTrack, Spark will automatically recognise and track an object you choose, keeping it at the center of the frame for perfect shots of objects in motion. Whether you are using TapFly or tracking a subject, Spark’s 3D Sensing System will actively sense obstacles in front of the aircraft. With the remote controller accessory, operators can switch to Sport Mode and unleash Spark's speed potential of up to 31 mph (50 kmh). Sport Mode sets the gimbal to first-person view (FPV) by default, so the camera moves with you as you fly. Spark will also be compatible with DJI Goggles for an immersive FPV flight experience. Shoot Like a Pro Spark houses an impressive camera with a 1/2.3” CMOS sensor that captures 12 megapixel photos and shoots stabilised HD 1080p videos. Spark's 2-axis mechanical gimbal and UltraSmooth technology dramatically reduce shake and rolling shutter effect to capture cinematic shots effortlessly. Spark includes many previous DJI drone shooting modes with two new additions: Pano and ShallowFocus. In Pano Mode, the camera creates horizontal or vertical panoramas by automatically adjusting its gimbal and heading, taking a series of pictures and stitching them together. ShallowFocus allows you to put part of a picture into sharp focus while the rest of the image is softened, creating photographs with a shallow depth of field.An array of filters and automatic editing templates available in the DJI GO 4 app enables creators to quickly edit videos and share them directly to Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Instagram, and other social media platforms. Fly with Safety, Accuracy, and Precision Spark’s FlightAutonomy system consists of the main camera, a downward-facing vision system, a forward-facing 3D Sensing System, dual-band GPS and GLONASS, a high-precision inertial measurement unit, and 24 powerful computing cores. These features allow Spark to hover accurately with vision system assistance at up to 98 feet (30 meters) and sense obstacles from up to 16 ft (5 m) away. Like all recent DJI drones, Spark can return to its home point automatically with a sufficient GPS signal. While using the remote controller, if the battery gets too low, connection is lost, or the operator presses the Return to Home (RTH) button, Spark flies back to the preset home point while sensing obstacles in its path. Spark also integrates DJI’s GEO System or NFZ geofencing to provide you with up-to-date guidance on areas where flight may be limited by regulations or raise safety or security concerns – helping you fly safely and responsibly. For optimal performance, Spark is powered by a high-energy density LiPo battery and has a maximum flight time of up to 16 minutes. When flying with the remote controller accessory, Spark allows for 720p real-time video transmission from up to 1.2 miles (2 km) away.[2] Price and Availability The retail price of a DJI Spark, including an aircraft, a battery, a USB charger and three pairs of propellers, is £519 (€599). The Spark Fly More Combo includes an aircraft, two batteries, four pairs of propellers, a remote controller, propeller guards, a charging hub, a shoulder bag and all necessary cables, with a retail price of £699 (€799). Pricing and availability of other accessories for Spark will be announced at a later date. Spark will be available for pre-order at store.dji.com, four DJI Flagship Stores, and authorised dealers. Spark pre-orders will start shipping in mid-June. Colour options and Fly More Combo availability may vary at different sales channels.

Thought it was going to be cheaper to be honest...... http://www.dji.com/mobile/spark