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Can't really help as I come from 1Dx II but I sold it 2 days before receiving the III, I also sold a week before my old 1Dx as the idea is to have the 1Dx III and a R5 or R6 (I need two body as I do a lot with remote cameras especially netcam in icehockey) also comparing RAW vs 8bit is not that fair. As I shot all sports in RAW for me it is very good to have RAW video as I can processes it quite similar. In photo the 1Dx III has better in DR (around 1/2 stop or so) up to iso 400 and base 1/2 or 2/3 stop better noise at high iso. I normally shoot icehockey in pro venue at iso 4000 as iso 8000 on the 1Dx II was really the limit but on the 1Dx III iso 8000 was still usable. The test above is for doing things like this (this is a photo is with a strobe so it would need a powerful battery led with fresnel plan to rent 300d to see if it can make it.....)

A random test of underexposure and raise the shadows 5.5k RAW 60fps screen grab (1/1000, F16)

Btw Cinema EOS Original is the default settings when you turn on log.

RS will be max 30ms 8k 30 (so not great at all but similar to 6k SH1), around 15ms at 4k 60 (so quite good )and around 8ms at 4k 120fps. The question is what about 4k 24fps will it be around 25-30ms or 15ms? The 1Dx III seems to be around 25-30 at 24,25,30 and around 15ms at 50 60 in FF. One could shoot 50 fps at 360° and drop every second frame to get 15ms RS but in the 1Dx III you loose DPAF 😞 but on the R5 it should be still available but the next question then is it super sampled at 4k at 60fps (at 30fps I'm ready to bet yes as the data is similar to 5.5k 60fps of the 1Dx)?

You could do also another list for Canon DSLR regarding video: - First having FullHD DSLR - First having 4k DSLR - First having a usable video AF - First having 4k 60p DSLR - First having ND filter adapter - First having FF RAW DSLR - First having 8K DSLR - First having FF 4k 120 DSLR But I agree they never really went all in for video features until the 1Dx III.... and pricing was always all over the place. I think this year is a big turnaround with C500 II, C300 III, 1Dx III that they really did not cripple or try to protect things so I have less of a problem guessing that R5 will not be intentionally crippled. It will have limitation but mostly due to HW than intentional. .

Finaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllllly!!!

One of the key requirement for Netflix that no canon dslr will fulfill is time code input..... C200 does not have it and so is not on the list.

1DX iii can subsample 5.5k 60 fps to 4k 60fps for 30 min, so it looks plausible to do 8k 30fps to 4k 30fps that is around the same data..... now higher than 30fps not so sure... Seeing the c500 ii doing 5.9k RAW 60fps with a fan I was doubtful that the 1Dx in a fully weather sealed body could do the same at 5.5k and here I’m using it daily with no issue.... Bottomline up to 30fps absolutely doable, rolling shutter will be an issue but so is on the SH1

I think Canon has finally realized that who is buying a DSLR for Video either don't want a dedicated cinema cameras (like me as I do a lot of photos too my 1Dx II and 1Dx that I just sold had both more than 200k clicks each on it ) or they have a limited budget < 4k usd..... thus a dedicated optimized for video DSLR does not make too much sense as it covers only the second group and the margins are too low. So they go all in with the video features in they photo DSLR and with a single SKUs, body etc try to cover all the above markets with their photo models. Then they have finally a good structure on their C line: Cinema FF 6k RAW C500 II < 16K USD Documentary, Action, etc S35 4K RAW 120 fps, top DR C300 II <11K USD Entry level S35 4K RAW 60 fps C200 < 5.5k USD (here they should add the middle 10 bit codec) Below 4.5k USD is DSLR territory

For photography is almost a perfect camera on paper 12 fps mechanical 20 fps electronic at 45 Mpix, if it has the DPAF of the 1Dx III it will be also very good for action and sports something that the 5d IV was never too good at. Buffer should be also very good as they can write 30 fps at 8K RAW probably at 20 fps 3:2 14 bit should be almost infinite at least in CRaw.... will probably not be blackout free, will have rolling shutter issue with the ES but for 95% of action would be good enough. For video we need to see the recording limit (I'm betting 30min) and if and up to which fps 4k is super sampled (if it can do FF 4k 120fps super sampled it has a monster sensor and cpu) and DR. I tend to think that up to 4k 30fps is super sampled and then pixel binned but I hope to be wrong. Not sure the R6 will be that good on video because at the Cinema event they only talked about the R5 but let see, hope to be wrong.

The sensor is basically on par with the A7R4: https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Canon EOS 1D X Mark III,Sony ILCE-7RM4 This does not mean that in RAW video it will have the same DR.... but for photo the sensor definitely has a really good DR

Also would be good that is done with RAW at iso 100, RAW with D+ at iso 200 and RAW with DLog at iso 400 to see witch settings is giving better result and then compare to 10big Log too

Where did you see a real dr test of 1dx iii ? As the sensor dr is quite good: https://www.canonnews.com/1dx-mark-iii-dynamic-range-tested-class-leading and so should be the 12 bit raw video. Random youtube tests are worthless imo.

Some C300 III 4k 120fps sections in here

Probably a combination of all the above.

The "IS mode" menu I think is the IBIS as on canon you cannot control lens IS from the menu or at least not on EF lenses....

Yep on the newsshooter review is stated that the Lupo uses fresnel nothing wrong with this approach but is not due to led evolution.

I'm not so sure as it could be RAW on CFexpress and 4k proxy on SD..... but we will see. What I'm sure is that the 1Dx III even with two CFexpress you cannot record on both at the same time, only exception is 5.5 RAW + 4K "proxy". Recording limit will probably by 30 min for all fps and 7 min for 120 fps like the 1Dx III.

Canon to complete the job add zebra and waveforms! And include the ND filter EF adapter as goodie in the kit for free😀

4k 120 fps non cropped if it is supersampled is just incredible but probably it will be pixel binned but still 4k 120fps! 8k RAW I was sure it would be possible as the 1Dx III 5.5 k raw 60fps is in that data range.

Lupo does not include battery, chargers or power adapter so it will be more than 159 but for sure less than 349. I find panel less flexible than COB lights but especially if you are doing interviews, corporates etc.. the new Lupo panel seems a better fit than the SL or SLB from godox. Just that there is no magic in output, the lupo use fresnel lens inside this is why the beam is narrow you do the same with the godox and the power will be much more.

They will put a lot of *.. *coming in future firmware updates ...😂 On a serious note I doubt is for watching Canon, it is way too late to change things other than price....probably the idea is to be later so the press blogs etc will talk only about Sony announcement and not both at the same time... Rumor strongly suggests is the C300 iii and Sony has already the FX9 in that price segment so I doubt that there is any overlapping.

The Lupo looks interesting but not sure you can compare with the Godox 60W in output as the Lupo has a beam angle of 40°, not sure with what Godox lux is measured but probably the standard reflector that has a much wider beam angle. A SL-60W with Fresnel 12°-55° probably at 12° gives 25'000 lux at 1m so at 40° my guess it will be more than 10'000 lux..... But the portability and easy to use of the Lupo is hard to beat.

The test of S1H vs 1DX III it is not scientifically done, not even the iso where matching... even then are the iso really matching between cameras (and we know it is not), was he using the same lens yelling the same exposure etc..., was he using dlog enabled (high light protection) in 1DX RAW or not, was the exposure measured with a light meter and not with the camera meter etc.... it was a quick non scientific test just focus on the highlight and not the full DR that proves nothing... classical youtube quick and dirty comparison.... Maybe still the S1H has better DR but until is tested scientifically is just a random guy doing a random test.... Hopefully cinema5d will test the DR of the 1DX III (also there you could argue about the methodology but is definitely much better than random tests)

The FX9 seem a very good camera but It cost less as it offer less.... the C500 II can do 6K RAW internal at 60 FF (zero crop) with DPAF, Sony caps at 4k 10bit 30fps FF or when they will ever release the firmware 4k 10bit? 60 fps Cropped ca. 1.25..... Not really the same..... At 16K there is no camera that can do FF 60 FPS RAW internal with good AF 4k or above.... I would not call it overpriced. For most people in this forum yes but so is the FX9....