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57 minutes ago, 1Ale82 said:
What lenses where used for the shots? The same lens on both cameras so it can be a fair comparison?
25mm MFT on the P4K, 50mm samyang on the S1. More info in my blog »
If I will get my hands on a 35mm Samyang, I will compare it (with a Speedbooster on the P4K) to a 50mm on the S1.
2 minutes ago, helium said:These fairly trivial differences tend to fall away, in face of an actual colorist.
Yep, I absolutely agree.
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1 minute ago, deezid said:
The V-Log S1 sample is free of any sharpening and nr artifacts, wondering what this guy is talking about lol
The Braw sample is full of noise and hair looks (enhanced). The exposure could have been even hotter to reduce the noise honestly, you can still lower ISO later to add some contrast back later
The S1 looks good to me as well.
However, please check Geralds video on exposing the BMPCC4K, where he explains how does the different ISO values impact your final image and why is shooting on the base ISO a good thing. So, my footage is far from great, but isn't that the reason why raw was invented? ?
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1 minute ago, Otago said:
Sorry, should've been clearer, I meant the noise reduction and sharpening. I'm wondering if it can match the smooth look of Pocket 4k, it looks amazing but the Pocket 4k looks nicer to my eyes, even with the slightly lower dynamic range - perhaps it's RAW vs H.265 though.
0 is the lowest you can go for the sharpening/NR (Panasonic slightly changed the UI, it's not like on the GH5 where you had negative values).
Get the free resolve, download the footages and try to match them together
It's not impossible, but there's a learning curve, like I wrote earlier, I unintentionally overexposed the Pocket screengrab, don't take it as a reference. My goal was to show you all how differently are these two cameras handling the same situation and to upload some sample clips, because I did not had the opportunity to compare the two cameras before buying them.
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20 minutes ago, Otago said:
Does it go lower than that ? If you're bored it would be nice to see what a range of setting do to the image - but only if it would be useful to you obviously!
Nope, 640 is the lowest you can go with the V-log.
I will do some more detailed test (V-log vs. HLG as well) and upload everything to my blog, but I have a shoot next week and I have to prep.
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50 minutes ago, Patrick B. said:
@funkyou86 thanks for posting that! I have the S1 but not the Pocket. Which camera is on the left? That frame grab seemed to have a little more highlight info and/or smoother roll off in the window.
The left one is the S1, the right one is the Pocket (you can spot easily, because it's "cropped", aka 4K DCI).
Download the sample clips and try to push your own grade to it's limits. I'm not a colorist, just quickly graded these two clips
After I uploaded them, I noticed that I pushed the Pocket highlights a bit too much. The braw has the information (highlights max at 80 IRE) but the brightest parts of the screengrabs are over 100 IRE.
I only had the Pocket on one shoot and got the V-log license yesterday ? So, I will upload more sample clips probably so everyone can get the idea what are these two toys capable of.
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26 minutes ago, Otago said:
The logistics of selling digital products through distributors and then retailers is by no means a solved problem - everyone wants their cut and is afraid of setting a precedent. The distributors know their business is dieing, there are so few camera shops now that the manufacturers could take on selling directly to retailers quite easily but the distributors are fighting tooth and nail to keep their businesses alive. Like a fungal nail infection that just won't go away ?
What were the settings on the S1 for this ? The S1 looks too sharp, to me, in comparison to the BMPCC 4K but they both look really, really good! Dancing on the head of a pin.
Base ISO of 640, Sharpening an NR at 0.
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Hey folks,
I made a quick test comparing the BMPCC 4K with the S1 V-Log. Here are my thoughts with the sample clips
It was a quicky, so do not take that a professional reference, but you can play with the footages in resolve to see how they hold up against each other.
- Geoff_L and Patrick B.
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5 minutes ago, Geoff_L said:
@funkyou86 and other MC21 owners : could you check your electronic contactors of your EF lenses you use with the adapter please ? I posted some days ago in the "lenses" thread, because my lenses got damaged. I believe it comes from the MC21 adapter ; mine may be defective...
Just checked my brand new 50mm STM and my 85mm USM and they are fine. If it's from the adapter, you might want to get in touch with Panasonic reps.
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4 hours ago, newfoundmass said:
With the price reduction it's really tempting but the cost of lenses is just way too hard to swallow.
I'm so impressed with the stabilization. What a feat, really.
The UK deal with the FW upgrade + MC-11 adapter made me switch. The image is very gorgeous, but the autofocus is is rubbish with the Canon USM lenses.
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5 hours ago, deezid said:
Also how long does it take to get the free V-Log code usually?
I'm waiting for more than two weeks now, still nothing from Panasonic UK...
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Let's push panasonic, let them hear your voice as well and let's hope they will fix it with a FW update.
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So, this auto slowmo feature is pissing me off pretty much. No chance to set ISO, aperture or shutter speed. Sets camera automatically to 125 shutter for 125fps, dfq, shouldn't you have twice the framerate? At least they could add shutter degrees...
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8 hours ago, kye said:
I'd suggest:
- Setup a short section on the timeline so you can export quickly to test IQ
- Disabling all grading then export
- Check timeline resolution (IIRC output resolution doesn't override timeline resolution, but could be wrong)
- Create new timeline, add test clip, export that
- Create new project, new timeline, add test clip, export that
- Not sure what to do after that point... Re-installing resolve is the likely common recommendation
Thanks for your input.
- Does not matter if the footage is graded or not, it looks bad
- TImeline resolution seems okay, resulution is not overriden
- Even If i create new timelines, the issue is still there
- If I import the clips separately to a new project, the export seems okay. But I don't wish to transfer everything to a new project via XML because than I loose all my grades, etc.
- Reinstalled resolve to 16.1 - that did not help either
Here's a sample clip: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1g2dNhZDSR2YoyDDCdJAW2u5WBCzdIVJV
I also posted to BMD forums, but seems like no one had the time since early morning to aproove my post...
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59 minutes ago, Stab said:
On the GH5-s HLG was actually better than V-LOGL in terms of color accuracy and dynamic range, so I wonder if it's the same on this camera.
I felt the same way...
I am still waiting for the upgrade key, i will upload some test footages once I have upgraded.
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48 minutes ago, heart0less said:
It almost looks like Resolve decided to use its Optimized Media to render it out.
But, did you generated Optimized Media in the first place?
I had a similar issue some time ago, but it only affected my grabbed stills quality, not rendered video.
Take a look here, maybe some of the tips will help you:
https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=92628
Hey, thanks for your reply. Yep, I generated optimised media, but like I wrote, I had no issues yesterday while exporting the Raw footage. I tried to grade them today and also messed with the settings and this is what I've got.
I also went through the topic you linked but that did not help as well
I tried to nest the timeline, change the projects settings, but the 4K RAW is coming out of the resolve like it's 480p.
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Resolve guys, please help me resolve this issue
I'm new to the SW so there might be some options I overlooked.
For days, I had no issues with exporting footage from resolve. Today something happened
No matter what kind of output I choose, the quality is rubbish like at the photo attached Any guess what went wrong? This is a Ursa Mini G2 raw footage, graded from BMD film. Even if I export this from raw, it's still pixilated, banding, etc. The screen was made from an uncompressed export.
I'm runing on Resolve 16 Studio, PC, 32GB RAM, Nvidia 1060, i7.
Thanks a lot for your replies!
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1 hour ago, BTM_Pix said:
You can just use an FD to L adapter
Cheers mate! Thanks a lot!
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Dear S1 owners, does any of you use CANON FD glass?
I was wondering if it's possible to connect FD's with an adapter like this to the MC-21 adapter. I'm not sure if the flange distance will be correct or not, does any of you have any experience? Thanks for sharing!
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Question to S1 owners: does the S1 have HDMI lag like the GH5?
Can't wait to receive mine...
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Just ordered mine, can't wait to test it with bmpcc.
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1 hour ago, Geoff_L said:
manual control is no more possible,
What do you mean by that? You can't set shutter or ISO in slowmo mode or what is the manual control loss?
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So, only active track and the locking button are the new features added?
It's not impossible, but there's a learning curve, like I wrote earlier, I unintentionally overexposed the Pocket screengrab, don't take it as a reference. My goal was to show you all how differently are these two cameras handling the same situation and to upload some sample clips, because I did not had the opportunity to compare the two cameras before buying them.
I tried to nest the timeline, change the projects settings, but the 4K RAW is coming out of the resolve like it's 480p.
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It can record non stop 4K. But the S1 lacks of the professional video options like the GH5 had, like using shutter degrees, etc. However, it's image is truly awesome.