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Looks like a nice camera, looking forward to some side by sides with the c50, fx3 and s1ii. AF with adapters, AF with native glass, ibis, colour, dr, battery life.

Looks nice, no ND though. I hope it will have ibis and great battery life.

I presume the AF on the dji ronin 4d is better then the s1rii. Allthough not sure. Something I negletated over a decade, but now I realise how much time you save by using AF. So it moved up in my importance list. And is why I am also considering sony again, as they still seem to lead the pack in the AF department.

Well the prompting is not that easy, what sometimes you think is easy turns out in an horror challenge to get it somehow how you would like. It costs credits. Clients depend on your knowhow and experience to get it done. Similar like actual shooting, what is stopping them to get an camera and shoot it themselves. Time/costs

Hi, Who here has used an dji ronin 4d? Whats your experience? What are the cons and pro's? (The weight seems a big con. 5kg..) maybe also its size is an issue, as its quite the setup. And it might not fit in places where an mirrorless might fit. But I never used or seen one, so I am not sure. Cheers

Pretty amazing what gen AI is capable off now though.

Is there any other benefit besides the raw over hdmi? As i have no use for that.

Allthough it is not entirenly only my issue. Clients (production companies) ask footage to be shot in log. And while it is no longer my issue but the editor or color grader issue. I prefer the colours coming straight out of camera to be nice. Especially when they are combinging footage from different shooters and camera's. I don't want to be the guy where they have the most work in post with. As most production companies ask feedback forms from everyone involved, and if an editor writes down "I prefer the footage from shooter B because the colours are ready to go, and I am shooter A, then I might move down the list of shooters to call for a new project". Alllthough I will try to always use the C500 ii for these types of clients when possible. Where the colours are stellar straight out of camera.

Yeah I need to create my own lut, as so far I have not found one with good contrast. Have not tried baking in a lut.

Ntblowz might be onto something. I 99.9% shoot caucasian people, and red skin patches might be more prone to white skin. Obviously your still is graded and not a rec 709 conversion. But agree here it looks good. But might also have to do with the skincolor. Allthough I never seem to have any skintones issues with blackmagic or canon c500ii and on my s5ii footage this always pops up.

That is interesting, I wonder that is the reasoning about all these colour science differences between brands/camera's etc.

I know its not the same, but it is super obvious how red the skintones are on the s1ii. (Have not looked into much other comparison videos, but I saw this one passing my fb feed) Could you fix it sure, but why is it so bad right out of camera? And it is something users have been complaining about for years, and they even made it worse.. Sure most reviewers that got shipped an camera from panasonic dont point this out..

Here is an example where it is quite obvious. (With the s1ii vs blackmagic) the skintone difference is massive. While on the blackmagic I would not need to change the skintones at all on the s1ii it would need some tweaking to get rid off the red skintones. Ok many clients prolly won't notice it or would complain about it. But I sure do see it + panasonic has the most different colour science of sony. Which at the moment is the market leader over here. And 1 client specific told me they liked colour science of sony the most, prolly because the market is flooded with sony footage and that is what they are used too. (Was on a shoot with a mix of panasonic and sony camera's next to each other, so we had to grade the panasonic footage to the sony look :') )

Looks like a great camera, but what prevents me buying it is the colour science. It looks worse then s5ii, and s5ii was already worse then the s5. The skintones look horrific magenta with red blotches. Which is the biggest problem with this camera imo. Sure you could fix it with some post work. But why would I buy this camera when there are numerous options out there that dont have this problem. And saves me time each project.

So highlight rolloff does not matter to you? I don't want to come off as a guy which says camera A does this better then camera B. But surely you would think a new camera would beat a 5 year old camera. Z Allthough it still overheats, and as an hybrid it still is flawed in the flash photography department. I am not interested in the influencer reviews. And in the end its just a tool and what you put in front of it is much more important.. But highlight rolloff is never stated in the spec sheets.