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To be fair, he did say he needed to sell it for financial reasons for his family, so I can't blame him for that.

I'm actually in a very similar place as Matt. I've been chasing the perfect camera for a year and in all of that chasing, I like the footage from the BMPCC/BMMCC and D5500 the most. But more importantly I have yet to finish a short with any of them. And if I had, would the short have been better with the BMPCC instead of the D5500, or with the a6500 instead of the BMPCC? In a lot of ways they all kinda suck, so the answer lies in the question... which sucks the least? Btw @fuzzynormal congrats on the PBS doc. Has it aired yet?

This is a great post, especially for a Sunday... but seriously I am going through a similar thought process. I have bought, tested and returned/sold about a dozen cameras over the past year and a half. And the one thing I have learned is that no camera is perfect. all of the cameras at the $1000 or less price point are flawed in one way or another. They're all capable tools though, as many have proven over the years. However, it's easy to say that I can make my films with a t2i, or a GH2... of course you can... but what's the point? How will a t2i or a GH2 help you make your film? How will they hinder you? Movies are hard enough, practically impossible if you reside within the... "I have absolutely no fucking budget to make this movie but I am going to try anyway because I am a masochistic asshole" budget, so your tools must be tools... no more and no less. For me, there are specific features that I have come to rely on in a camera... focus peaking being one of them... but I don't need it. What features have you come to rely on... do you need them? The problem really is that the BMPCC is not that expensive of a camera and I'm unsure it would be wise to sell the camera to pay for one costume, for one short. In 3 to 6 months when that short is done and you are looking toward your next project... then what camera will you want... or need? With that being said... yeah fucking sell the BMPCC. Get a GH2, or a G7, or better yet get an AF100... I've seen them selling for around $500. Go bold and tell a cool story and when you're doing junkets at a festival tell them why you chose to make your short with a 5 year old camera... just make it sound cooler than I wanted money for a costume. Actually this would be a cool challenge for those who still have access to their t2i, or GH2, or D5xxx... make a 3 minute short, in a month, and post it in the shooting section... we'll vote on a winner, but to keep it fair, only the members with a hundred posts or more can vote so we don't have a bunch of people signing up to vote for their friend... the winner gets one of Reid's cameras... LOL.

Are you going to buy the upgrade at a discounted price? Or are you just pissed?

Do you guys think the C100mkiii will have 4K, or will that take too much away from the C300ii? Any chance Canon will include a 1080p Raw instead of 4K?

The beauty of the Pocket and the original BMCC was that enthusiasts and young filmmakers could afford the cameras... these are the same people who are buying the Ursa now. Those Ursa Pro owners will eventually graduate to a Red or maybe an Alexa and that Pro will collect dust or be sold on the used market. Without a base cinema model with updated specs... it doesn't have to be 4K, but 2.5K at multiple frame rates, maybe no need for IR filtratation, and a better screen and BM will secure the next "generation" of filmmakers to climb the BM ladder on their way to an Alexa.

Well Arri Classics are only going for around 15,000 on eBay...

Is CineLog from Vision? The Markii is getting dirt cheap now, it may be worth a look. I love my 50D, but lack of any audio makes it a tough production camera. Am also interested in the 70D with ML Raw and DPAF.

Hell, if Arri came out with a 720p Super 35mm camera that shot 24p/60p in arri log and arri raw, I'd give them $2000.

Good idea.

Me. And if they weren't selling BH wouldn't still have them in stock. And we're not talking about a C100... we're talking about if BM sells more Ursa Pros than they sold and continue to sell of the Pocket. I mean, 3-4 years after its release and there is not another camera at its price range that can match its IQ. IMO.

No way the Ursa Pro will sell more than the Pocket did... the profit margins may be greater and maybe they'll make more in the long run... maybe... but no way they'll sell as many Ursa Pros as they did and continue to sell Pockets.

IDK, I am sure I am biased because I love the image out of the BMPCC, but I think the same material shot on both cameras will look "better" with the Pocket than the GH4. And yeah... if they offered a Super 35mm Pocket in 2.5k with EF mount and I'd hand over 2 grand to them... but I'd rather give them $995... Lol. Yeah very possible. Someone mentioned earlier... in this thread or another... that the Pocket was introduced at NAB '13. The Micro was announced at NAB '15... maybe the Pocket 2 will be announced this NAB. We'll see. According to 43Rumors a Pocket II will be released... time will tell.

I just don't see how they can stay a viable camera manufacturer selling $3-6000 cameras. On this forum alone, if a Pocket 2 was announced, between the regulars and the guests at least a hundred people will buy one (maybe more as I'm unsure of the board's readership) but how many will buy the Ursa Pro... maybe 5-10? There aren't enough professionals around to ignore the enthusiasts and stay in the game. The major companies will eat them alive in that market.

http://nofilmschool.com/2014/12/shoot-bob-trees-outside-winter-snow-blackmagic-bmpcc-sundance I'm sure many have read this article, but the Pocket is usable as is. Is it the most convenient solution... no. But it can be done. With a native lens with OIS, and a ton of batteries, one could shoot a feature handheld.

Well to be fair, you wouldn't cut a piece of wood with a drill would you? So why shoot a 4 hour performance with a Pocket Cam?

Yeah the truth is, one can put a 20mm on the pocket cam and with a monopod shoot cinematic footage like no other camera anywhere near its price point. The footage still holds up today and is better than footage coming out of cameras 2 or 3 x its price. With that being said, BlackMagic is out of their mind if they don't release a Pocket Mark II or a similar camera with a few upgrades at a similar price point... if they want to stay in the camera business.

They won't. Or maybe one of them will offer to buy them.

I don't think you can rig a micro 4/3 or Sony E mount because you would have to go inside the body and closer to the sensor... I think?

Makes sense... would love to see what you do with a 1DC.

Yeah, hot damn that looks good. Have you ever thought about a C100ii or a Mark iii?

I've never used one but I have read good things.

The Ursa Major discount is cool if someone bought one, but now BM is getting into a territory where false promises and rush to production has big name competition. Looks like a great camera though. I can't wait to see what it can do.

Idk, didn't the 4.6k just come out a little over a year ago?

Since they usually announce at NAB, they may have announced the Pro early, so the Pocket ii or BMCC ii doesn't steal any of its thunder. Or maybe they won't announce any camera at NAB and BM has given up on their original mission statement.