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That’s a grey market GH5... good price though. And a sale isn’t a price drop. But I live in NJ, and since 6th Ave is a NJ based store I’d have to pay sales tax... so with the sales tax it brings you over $1600. Better to get a New Open Box From Samy’s for $1599. But if you don’t mind grey market and you don’t live in NJ, then that is a great price.

Well he doesn’t use lights and often enters restaurants and stores where lighting may be minimal and everybody online knows Neistat, soooo he was probably the first to get one.

It seems odd timing to release a new GH5s with nothing more than increased lowlight performance, though? Since I assume the majority of GH5 sales are from video users, it almost seems like they’re killing their own GH5 sales for only $500 more? Unless there is going to be a price drop of the GH5. This is actually kinda strange marketing and timing. I tend to think there will be a few more features and the price will be $2999. Just enough to warrant a jump in price but not enough to really hurt existing GH5 sales.

I think there will be enough features to warrant the extra money but it will probably leave some current GH5 owners annoyed it was released so soon after the GH5. I would expect lowlight either via less MPs or a larger S35mm sensor... or both. But I would also expect something more, especially if it is a micro 4/3 sensor. Internal NDs would be huge but also internal/external 1080p Raw or perhaps ProRes. I know people don’t like the idea of an EF mount but at what price point is too high for a micro 4/3 sensor... or is there a price point that is too high? I don’t really have an opinion either way, and the only thing that would make me consider this camera is a new codec... ProRes or Raw would really tempt me, especially if it has IBIS. Add internal NDs and I am even more interested. Throw a S35mm sensor on it and... I probably won’t be able to afford it. Hmm... this is some mystery. Obviously this camera has been planned for a while now, and obviously Panasonic wouldn’t want to alienate their new GH5 buyers. And since the EVA1 is roughy $7500 and the GH5 is $2000, then I would assume the GH5s will fall somewhere between $3000 and $4000. Well I guess the new rumor is that the price will be around $2499... better lowlight is a pretty big deal and for only $500 more maybe there will be nothing more?

Since the color shift in ND filters vary depending upon brand, I doubt it goes into consideration. If I were you, I would get ND filters with the most neutral color cast. A good neutral color cast ND filter is B+W on the more expensive end and Bower if you’re looking for a cheaper alternative.

Wow, that looks so good. Sorry for OT but I love seeing good videos from old forgotten cameras. I spent an hour this afternoon watching old hacked GH1 videos.

Looks pretty good. Checked out your Vimeo... what did you shoot Victim on?

It is so funny, I immediately thought... what camera did he/she shoot it on? Even when I try and discuss alternative ways to make films... I wonder the same things. Last year I started a post about camcorders and today I watched a couple XA10 videos and thought... Damn, if I was smart, I would just buy a camcorder with XLR inputs, a Rode NTG and go and make a movie. And then I needed to check the sensor size and rolling shutter tests and... Ugh...

I’ll do it too... 6 months to make a feature film on a hacked GH1 or consumer camcorder. I double dare you.

Panny, pick up a hacked GH1 for $100 and make a feature film with it. It will be the greatest marketing story since Tangerine was shot on an iPhone... or pick up a $200 camcorder with a mic input.

And if you insist on going old DV, probably a Panasonic DVX would be the cheapest best choice... except for the amount of time it takes to input the footage with a FireWire. And even then get an HV20 which is still considered a cult cam. Hell if you make a movie on an HV20 today, you would probably be considered the coolest filmmaker in the hipster world. ?

I do like the grungy look as well but I think that look can probably be pretty easily obtained, even with an iPhone. Probably a hacked GH1 could easily give you a similar look, with a few touches in post.

Sorry Panny, when I looked I didn’t see the embedded video. If you want my honest opinion... I know exactly why you would want a camera like this to shoot a movie on. But I would probably go with a C100. Nice small, yet malleable file sizes. XLR inputs for in camera audio, built in ND filters. For scenes without dialogue, you can take the handle off and the camera is a lot smaller. It’s just a workhorse.

I think we need more info, Panny?

Care to elaborate on the “well, yes and no?” Sometimes the issues can be seen as a liberation instead of a limitation. As proven dozens of times, by the many videos floating around, there isn’t a camera on the market incapable of creating amazing imagery in the right hands or circumstances, some tools just make it a lot easier. But there is something exciting about taking the bare minimum and working around its limitations... not that the X-T2 is the bare minimum, it’s obviously a professional piece of equipment. If only it had IBIS.

Exactly and there isn’t much of an image I’ll be happier with than from I’m already getting with the 5D3 and ML Raw, so my second camera really needs to be fairly small, simple to use, and most likely 4K. Right now it’s a toss up between the Leica 109, an RX10ii or maybe an XC10 if I can find one for the right price. For the most part I don’t want to deal with interchangeable lenses, and if I do then another host of features come into consideration... IBIS, sensor size, etc... In the meantime I’ll just continue to watch the cool videos from eoshd members.

I’ve been eyeballing their mods for the past couple years, first with a GoPro and now with the Yi, but I just never seem to pull the trigger. My main cam is a 5D3, but I’m looking for a second glove cam camera that I can carry around mostly for fun. I’m leaning towards a Leica Typ 109, but I may get another GX85 or an E-M10 M3 or maybe a Fuji X-E3... or something. For the price, the Z is kinda tempting though.

Thanks, this is great info. I’m actually kind of interested in pairing this with some c-mount lenses and a tiny swivel foot monopod I have. Any chance you have a Fujian 25mm c-mount lens to test it with? Also please report back with your Z-Log results or thoughts.

@markr041 Really, no manual control in the 850? I hadn’t even conceived such a notion... that’s a useless camera. If you have a minute, I have a couple questions... does the Z files have any grading latitude... obviously I don’t expect much, nor would I do much... but do simple corrections break the image? I most likely would just correct and then add a light Tint or Colorize in FCPX. Also did you expose to the middle, over, under? And finally how is the build quality? I read it is made of magnesium, but how do the buttons feel? How is the battery and microSD door feel? Oh yeah one more... how is battery life? Thanks for taking the time?

This update solves some of your issues with the camera, right? Do you predict some more X-T2 use in the future?

Z Log? Is that just a gimmick, because it doesn’t seem very flat ooc? Of course, 11 stops isn’t bad for such a camera. At that price, it seems the only comparable camera would be the GX850, a grey market version can be had for around $375. I purchased the Steadicam Curve a few years back with grand plans to use it with the a5100... I never got around to messing with it, so with the right adapter, this little cam could be perfect. I know the Yi4K does up to 60p, and is an action cam with a much smaller sensor, but they are similarly priced, but as far as IQ goes, which fares better?

@markr041 thanks for the tests. These look quite nice. I love the color. Interesting camera. Can you list some pros and cons compared to some similarly priced cameras?

I think a GH5 attached to a telescope takes away from the spirit of the article and the Nikon ISS shot?

Are you shure you bought SM7B? ?

I think @jonpais already made the astute point that if this is merely a firmware update, then Panasonic physically sent it with a bottle of red paint to touch up the body...