JazzBox

6 hours ago, Emanuel said:

Take a look on this cinematic outcome... To whom comes from film realm, such called 'softness' (when not missing focus) is a bless :-)

 

PS:

Thanks for the compliments on 'I Cento Passi' (dal cuore : ) Speaking of missing links... our memory is, though, full of team work worries, past today. Such as two weeks of shooting to be repeated only because of a DAT tape lost and recording sound irremediably missing, respectively; missing parts to still be credited; €300 to remain as credit card limit in the main method of payment for (shooting) expenses such as mere flight tickets (main cast); the female lead character to be completely erased from the script made with so much love fulfilled by many only a few months before in order to cut off the budget and tighten up efforts or there wouldn't be feature film to show up in the end + the whole participation of a co-production team and checks to sign at one time and follow accordingly, go figure... 

Finally, all this became multiple awarded in Venice since a decade and a half ago, oh well, crazy craft this industry is *Phew*

Wow!!! super crazy story!!!

The images from this video are really good to my eyes: no moire, no bad artifacts... smooth movements... I like this little drone! 
Thank you for the advices!

49 minutes ago, Emanuel said:

Mavic e' tutto un altro discorso, secondo me : ) GH4/G7 (GH5 arrivera') anche qui :-)

Ottimo! Anche io sono in attesa della GH5, non vedo l'ora!

Grazie per il consiglio, stavo pensando al Karma per avere anche una GoPro da buttare al mare qui all'Argentario (Toscana), ma in effetti il Mavic sembra più serio come progetto e si trasporta molto più facilmente. A livello di qualità non sarà certo come un'Alexa su un drone da 10.000 euro, quindi tanto vale poterlo trasportare senza sforzo  

p.s.: complimenti per "I Cento Passi"! Capolavoro!

 

1 hour ago, Emanuel said:

Un pochino piu' sul serio adesso/a little bit more serious for now ;-)

Ehi ma qui si parla italiano!!! Che spettacolo!!  

Insomma io uso una GH4 e una G7 per i miei video, cosa mi consigliate, Mavic o Karma?  

I have to watch it! :D 

1 hour ago, mercer said:

@JazzBox I know you said you may be interested in the C100 mkii, so I thought you might want to see Kubrickian's video. 

Beautiful!

On 05 ottobre 2015 at 9:34 PM, AaronChicago said:

For documentaries it's perfect. I'm still on the fence whether or not it's a good commercial, short, music video camera.

Dear Aaron, 
after I tried Andrew's EOSHD C-Log I fell in love with Canon's colors. 

I use 99% of the time the Panasonic GH4 and G7, sometimes the Blackmagic Micro.
I was thinking to buy a Canon (selling the GH4): do you think C100 MkII is more filmic then 7D MkII or 5D MkIII?

Is it sharp enough? High ISO are good like on the 5DMkIII? 
Is the 35 mbps codec strong enough for color correction? If yes I could sell also the Micro Cinema in order to buy it  

Thank you!

Here a little test I made yesterday with my father's cameras and my GH4.
Andrew's C-Log wins clearly on GH4's V-Log: in my opinion GH4 is perfect in "Natural" profile - better then Canon  for resolution, frame rate etc... - but with its LOG profile it fall apart.

Mr Reid breathes new life in Canon's cameras
 

Yesterday evening I borrowed my father's Canon (5D MkIII and 6D) in order to test them.

I shot a little test - nothing scientific - just to see how well C-Log works on them and I added GH4 (my main camera) in the test.
 

I use the Zoom H5 with a Sennheiser MKE600, great results. 
Zoom's preamps are not the quieter in the world, but with the nice output of Sennheiser they works fine, they just need a good output from the mic. Of course if you use an external preamp no problems at all, you can feed the H5 from that and use the mic you want.

I was waiting this days! 
I'd love to buy a drone, and as always it seems there is not a perfect one: Karma is 3 products in 1 (a drone, an Osmo-like camera, a GoPro, nice for underwater shots), Mavis seems slightly better in terms of safety, easiness and size. 

I don't like GoPro's fisheye look, but there is a linear mode, hopefully not digitally cropped. Mavis has a 28mm wide angle but colors are (to my eyes) not that special. ProTune for sure could give more freedom in post. 

So... I'm going to think which one to buy  

24 minutes ago, EduPortas said:

Cheers, I'll try to post some before and after still shots of the graded material

of my last visit to the woods. You'll get a good idea of the latitude of the 7D MII.

However, I would strongly advise you to test your particular camera-lens combination

with both of the camera's you mentioned. I've found that Canon lenses make a huge

difference in video. Every fault of the lens is magnified in video, as well as its attributes.

This is specially true for skin tones and the overall detail you wish to obtain from the human face.

Right now I can't shoot without my 17-55 or a decent prime (not necessarily L primes, though).

I only have m/43 lenses I use with GH4, G7 and BlackMagic Micro Cinema Camera and a bunch of CY Zeiss that I would use with the Canon I'm going to buy. 
I tried the 6D, great results at 3200 ISO, I'd like to buy something that could give me similar results

On 21 settembre 2016 at 1:09 AM, IronFilm said:

It shocks me a person would sell a GH4 and BMMCC to raise money for a Canon DSLR. As a GH4 together with a BMMCC already covers so much, is a great versatile pairing. 

Don't get me wrong, I love the GH4, but I also have the G7 and it is very good, very close to GH4. I'm certainly interested in GH5 (internal ProRes 422 etc...) but maybe the G8 would be great and cheaper...

I also love the BlackMagic Micro, but I don't like the ergonomics and the fact that I have to rig it every time. 
I rig the GH4 when I need follow focus etc... but sometimes I prefer to go just with the camera and a couple of nice Zeiss... and that's not possible with the Micro.

I'm searching a camera that is "fast" as the GH4 / G7, but could give me a flatter look, like the one from BlackMagic, that I can easily grade in post. And I'd love to use my CY Zeiss at their best, so I could have a real wide angle with 25 and 28, a nice 35, a good normal with 50 etc... 

I like the Super 35 look, but most of the people says that 7D MkII is noisier then 6D and 5D MKIII, so I could go for the full frame look in order to achieve a better clean file.

I don't want to use Metabones or similar speedboster, since I like to shoot as backlight as I can and I don't want to risk velvet or blue dots.

GH4's V-Log-L is not an option for me: very nice in good light, very bad indoor for my experience, so not really reliable. 

I was shocked from EOSHD C-Log at 3200 ISO with my father's 6D, really clean, no bad colors, no noise etc... Of course less resolution then GH4, but for narrative etc... it is very organic and "filmic". 

If you have suggestion I'm here  

2 hours ago, EduPortas said:

Hello, happy owner of a Canon 7D Mark II here. Also, buyer of Andrew's picture profiles.

Tried them the other day in the woods and got a very nice image after 1-click grading with FilmConvert.

Easy as pie.

I shot at 60p with my F2.8 17-55mm. Most of the shots were at 17mm and F5.6. My ISOs were pretty high.

I specifically decided to record some clips in the Mexican woods because of the

complex detail of the leaves, sticks, etc., and the strong contrast between shadows and well-lit spaces.

In years past, I've visited the same woods with my former 6D and my Fuji X100. 

The Canon 7D Mark II takes considerable better video than both. 

Hope this helps.
 

Thank you very much! I'm really thinking between 5DmkIII and 7D! (or, if I sell all the things I have a C100 MkII...)
If you have some video on youtube/vimeo please share it  

26 minutes ago, Bioskop.Inc said:

The Micro's ergonomics is why I stayed faithful to the Pocket - it's all there in a tiny package. I think my next purchase will be a MB speedbooster, as it'll make it easier to use (better stability, which isn't bad now) & give me close to S35.

I'm kinda hoping that BM will make a smaller, more DSLR friendly shaped BMCC - can only live in hope!

Which Canon camera? Wait till the 5D4 comes out & then pick up a cheap 5D3.

It's a no brainer as you'll get Magic Lantern for free, which will give you RAW CDNG continuous filming (use it or not, it'll be there for you to change your mind) & all the other missing bits'n'bobs that ML have added to the party. Can't underestimate how useful the ML hack is for filming/photography - it's not just about adding RAW filming, there's so much more that it adds to your camera.

HOWEVER.....Just not so sure c-log is the way to go with DSLRs. But this might be how people are using it & then thinking that they can grade the footage to death! I might be wrong, but I took kidsrevil's advice (back in the day) & still feel that you can get good result's straight out of the box with a DSLR (& some minot tweeking).

Here's something i shot a few years ago on my Canon 60D - I used an early version of a VisionColor PP & just desaturated the footage, as I got the settings in-camera slightly wrong. It's all natural [window] light & 1 practical above the mirror. Also, the DPX conversion ended up being a red herring (at the time I was on FCP7 & it didn't handle H264 footage very well) - I've revisited the footage recently in FCPX & it still looks great. The Anamorphic squeeze is slightly out too!

 

Great filmic quality!

I use the GH4 and the G7 the very same way: no V-log or Cinelike D, but just "Natural" (with saturation and contrast -5) for a 90% ready look.
I'm deciding to sell the GH4 since Canon colors are better to my eyes and I don't need 4K ... but of course it is still a great camera  

On 25/9/2016 at 2:46 AM, Bioskop.Inc said:

Visioncolor's profiles, for Canon, are the best i've ever used, VisionTech being the pick of the bunch - only needs minor tweeking & you're done.

As far as BM cameras are concerned, they are 10bit Prores & not 8bit H264 - so of course their Film profile is going to be miles ahead of the majority of cameras on offer. However, if you haven't got the time to learn how to shoot a proper camera, then their Video profile setting has been vastly improved from its humble beginnings & produces a great image if you simply don't have the time to grade a lot or are used to grading 8bit H264 (NB. The bonus being that it won't fall apart like H264, because it's still 10bit ProRes).

The real problem with the Micro, it seems, is that improved battery & 60p simply doesn't seem to out weigh the bad ergonomics - whatever that is meant to mean for a drone camera?

I love the Micro's files and they are very simple to work with in post with corrections and color.
But the ergonomics is really bad... I like to shot as run and gun as I can, sometimes I have the time to rig all the things, but most of the time I like to spend more time on the lights / panels etc... and less on the camera   

If I had to choose I would have the BM Micro files in a GH4, maybe with a Super35 sensor

Maybe I could not sell the Micro and use it when I have time to setup it, but, talking about EOSHD C-Log, which Canon camera would you buy to use it as its best?  (possibly I would not use RAW) 
 

On 21 settembre 2016 at 1:17 AM, mercer said:

Btw, I also have a BMMCC, and for me, it is one of the most unenjoyable shooting experiences I have ever had. But I do admit, the footage is beautiful. 

Mercer, I looked at your vimeo channel and I saw we used the same cameras: G7, BM Micro etc.. 
I cannot test Canon in these days since I'm far from my father, but in your opinion is the EOSHD C-Log as good the "film" profile on the Micro? 
Which setting do you use on the G7?
Thank you!

9 hours ago, mercer said:

Btw, I also have a BMMCC, and for me, it is one of the most unenjoyable shooting experiences I have ever had. But I do admit, the footage is beautiful. 

To my taste BMMCC has the best file I have at my disposal, but 99% of the time I'm run and gun and I have no time to set it properly, so I shoot with Panasonic - that also I like, but at that point, Canon with EOSHD C-Log give me nicer colors... So I'm thinking to buy one... I could buy a 7DmkII or a 80D, but I don't know if they are good enough like 6D I tried with noise, high ISO etc... my Canon 70D was horrible when slightly underexposed... So I think that APS-C maybe is not good as full frame (talking about Canon, of course, with Panasonic G7 I can underexpose 2-3 stops with no problems).

26 minutes ago, Asmundma said:

Agree completly !    

Really, I thought the same until few days ago: I started in 2011 with Canon always in "Neutral" profile and I liked the colors but not the files. I had the 600D and then the 70D, but I used for some videos some 60D, 7D, 5D MkII and MkIII that I had from friends or rented. 

As soon as I "discovered" the Panasonic G6 on EOSHD.COM I sold the Canon (I had the 70D in that moment) and went for Panasonic mirrorless: G6, then GH4, and G7 replacing the G6 as second body some weeks ago. I love them, I use them every days with "Natural" Andy Lee's setting (great profile) but sometimes I need a flatter look.

I've bought the Micro Cinema Camera and I like the file a lot, but I prefer the easiness of control of DSLM/DSLR, so if the EOSHD Log-C could substitute the BlackMagic flat I'm more then happy  

I have to run a test side by side (BlackMagic / Canon with EOSHD Log-C), but in the meantime I ask here for advices, since I did not use the Canons in the last 2 years and to me, with Andrew's profile, they are brand new cameras. 

36 minutes ago, mkabi said:

I heard that the 5DSR is amazing. If you can afford it then get that...

I'd love, but it's too expensive for me...  

1 hour ago, Dave Del Real said:

7D2 60p is better than the GH4 in my opinion. Artifact free and clean.

Thank you!

14 minutes ago, Dave Del Real said:

7D2 is pretty good up to 3200 ISO. No moire or aliasing - very similar to the 5D3 in look. I had a couple of GH4's and sold them, couldn't stand the colors.

I like the GH4, but I love the Canon skin tones. Of course the GH4 has a lot more things for video making, but if the 60p from 7dMkII is not bad I could consider to buy it!

4 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

Out of those the 5D Mark III is of course the best but it is not exactly the cheapest.

Oddly I find the 50MP 5DS shoots the best quality 1080p of all the Canon DSLRs right now. It's very detailed.

Thank you very much!

I'll ask my father to try the 5DMkIII as soon as possible... 
Do you think it worths to sell both the BlackMagic Micro Cinema and the GH4 in order to raise some money for the 5DMkIII and shoot EOSHD Log-C? 

Or it is better to wait, not sell the Micro, sell the GH4 (I also have the G7) and take the 5DMkIII when I'll have money?

6D at 3200 ISO was a shock for me: super clean, no noise at all. Horrible colors in "neutral", gorgeous cinematic colors with your EOSHD C-Log, graded in 1" with FilmConvert 1DC profile. I did not see moire from 6D, but I was shooting at home just to try your profile.

Anyway how is 7D MkII at 1600-3200 ISO? And moire? Is the 60p decent like the on on GH4 or is it full of artifacts? 

Thank you very much for your kind support and for this great profile!

Did you try Andrew's profile?

It is just AWESOME. It gives a new personality to those cameras. I just try it with a 6D, but the differences between Canon's Neutral and EOSHD C-Log are day/night.

8 hours ago, Liam said:

If you're buying it mainly for video, I'd think a rebel or eos-m could be all you'd need. Maybe by the 80d you start to see actual improvements in video for detail and artefacts, maybe dynamic range. But that might be all imagined, and all you gain is digital sharpening. Haven't seen enough comparisons to know. The 5diii is probably best for moire, low light, and if you want full frame (though even then, you can speedboost an eos-m). A d5500 or d750 might be smarter all around though. Eoshd's clog has helped sustain my first camera purchase, on the cheap cheap side, but I don't know about investing into canon for it, unless you're also getting dual pixel auto focus or sexy 1dxii image quality at 4k60p

I just shot videos and I normally use Panasonic cameras (GH4 and G7).
I also own a BlackMagic Micro Cinema, probably the best one I have, but it is slower for 99% of my works.

So a Canon with EOSHD C-Log could be the one that gives me the flat look of BlackMagic with the easiness of a DSLR (no monitor to rig, no cables etc...).

Of course I'm happy with GH4 and G7 and I'll buy the GH5 as soon as possible, but a Canon with EOSHD C-Log could be a good substitute for the Micro Cinema Camera...
 

6 hours ago, Dave Del Real said:

I have a couple of 7D2 bodies and they're great with Andrew's Clog. Plus the 7D2 has clean HDMI out where as the 80D does not. I also use my cameras with Atomos Ninja 2 recorders to get ProRes files - very helpful for smooth editing and easier on the grading process. Just my thoughts.

What about high ISO?  (1600-3200)
I would use it with Contax Zeiss lenses, so I don't need AF functions.
Thank you!

9 minutes ago, tweak said:

mk3 for sure.

The 6D is outstanding in low light 3200 ISO. I could not imagine that it was so clean!
Is the 5D MkIII the same? I ask, because I find a demo 6D for 900 € and a barely used 5D MkIII for 2000 €.... both in great conditions, but the difference worths 1100 €?
And what about the 7D MkII? 

I search the cleanest ISO (and 6D seems far better then my GH4), the cleanes (no noise) LOG for a better liberty when grading. 

Super 35 like (7D MkII) sensor would be enough for me, but the full frame look is not bad at all   

Thank you   

Dear all,

I've bought Andrew's profiles and tired on my father's 6D (I'll try also on his 5D MkIII as soon as possible).

I'm considering to buy a Canon body to use with EOSHD Log-C profile, which one do you suggest?

Which are pro and cons of 6D, 5D MkIII and 7D MkII?

I'd prefer to not use Magic Lantern and just go with a nice Log-C profile, maybe recording externally in ProRes if needed for bigger projects, but the codec with Andrew's profile looks great until 3200 ISO on 6D.

Thank you!