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15 minutes ago, mercer said:

That’s the question... if you’re a pro, small format photographer (oxymoron?) do you choose a G9 over the E-M1 Mark II?

I'd buy a GH5 regardless. I haven't seen much that suggests this will be so much better than the GH5 I'd rather pay the extra US$200 and get the GH5's extra video features. Of course if reviews suggest so I might be more inclined to it.

4 minutes ago, Don Kotlos said:

Coupled with the new 200mm f/2.8 this will be a success in the market that e-m1mkii dominates. 

Not at US$3k though, that is an insane price for a 200/2.8.

That's a nice video, makes me want to visit Chicago! 

Why not a D850 then? :P

9 hours ago, Mckinise said:

GH5 10-bit is no problem at all. The files play fluidly.

But that requires the paid version, right?

Hmm, what happened to the comparison table of features on the Resolve site? Want to take a look again at what the paid version has over the free one.

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Nikon claim the sensor is their own design passed to a third party to manufacture in their fabs. By the word “design” it isn’t clear if Nikon has a CMOS design office or Sony’s engineers and technology develops the fundamental sensor and Nikon just picks the numbers and features they want. I suspect the latter.

It's actually the former, Nikon has had an in-house design team for a very long time; the D1x's oddball configuration was from them, and it's not always a hit either: the disaster that was the D2x's LBCAST sensor was from them too.

1 hour ago, gethin said:

stills; electronic shutter 6fps full frame, 14 bit.  All sRAW are at 12bit.  No word whether then 30fps is sRAW or jpeg.  If its sRAW then the burst length is the next question.  If I can shoot for 10 seconds then I can get 4K 12-bit raw video at 30fps.  This would be interesting. 

Some bits of video in here. High iso looks OK (from what you can see from youtube). 

personally I am increasingly primarily a video shooter who also shoots stills, when I got the D800 it was the other way round. As Leeys said a good still camera, but thats not why we're 'ere, eh?

Good info here (see #8):http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/nikon-d850/nikon-d850A.HTM

Looks like buffer allows 200 frames in sRAW, however this was not talking about the burst function. Could be less than that. So 5-8 seconds of raw vid a possibility.

Sensor designed by nikon. 

 

Ah right, you were talking about the 30 FPS output in live view. I have a suspicion that will be JPEG, since sRAW goes down all the way to 11mp, not 8.6mp.

Funnily, I'm still primarily a stills shooter, but I've migrated to Panasonic's GH cameras; the stills are good enough and when I do video I get great video, no matter how little I do of it.

It's a great stills camera though, if I were looking at a FX camera, this would be it. Not a Sony, but this.

59 minutes ago, gethin said:

No word yet whether this is the 12bit raw (I doubt it). 

12 bit raw in video? Nope. 12 bit raw in stills? Definitely. In fact there should be a 14 bit option.

On 4/28/2017 at 9:08 AM, Andrew Reid said:

They say you should use the Pro version for 4K editing.

Unfortunately my dongle isn't on me at the moment so can't test where I am!

Did they increase the difference between the free and the studio version? I thought the main difference was DCI 4K support.

Resolve doesn't handle 10bit? I've been using it a lot lately and I'm liking it more and more. Runs great even on older hardware.

2 minutes ago, webrunner5 said:

Well I guess you are one of the people I am talking about.

Are ad hominem attacks all you can do? 

1 hour ago, noone said:

Sometimes you need fast lenses AND high ISO.

IF the A7s iii comes along with a fast frame rate too, that would be wonderful but I suspect the A9 will be no slouch.

A7s at ISO 32000 and f2

Most definitely. That glow in the middle is rather distracting though. Cute bowtie, is that EL wire?

54 minutes ago, webrunner5 said:

Man I am old and I see the future. Some of you young guys come off as dumb as shit! Jesus! I am serious! Do any of you make a freaking living doing this stuff like I did?? I mean to put food on the table, pay the house payment, and all that goes with it, put gas in the cars, make you wife happy, etc., etc.?

You take what is out there and make a living with it. You don't piss and moan. Use this camera to make money. How hard is that to do?

Yeah we are all going to go out and buy a F ing 600mm f2.8 lens that is 2 foot long and weighs 15 pounds. Those days are done. I owned crazy shit like that. We HAD to buy it. You don't now with cameras that shoot 200,000 ISO! You young guys are Blessed what is out there to buy now.

That "target group" is who helped developed this camera and the 100-400mm lens! The Live Feed video showed Pro shooters that worked with Sony on it.

Nice slinging of insults. I'm just echoing what my sports shooting (the target demo) compatriots use and their experiences. If you think Sony's sensor is so superior that it'll offer a 5-stop advantage over what is that in the D5 and 1DX, you're mistaken.

20 minutes ago, noone said:

Well "every*" pro photographer that shoots Golf on the planet that can afford it will want one.      Until Canon and Nikon come out with a completely silent camera anyway.

* Obviously not EVERY one.

That'll definitely be very useful. I know of a few pros who added a Nikon 1 to their arsenal to deal with golf but there's always a lot of moaning from them about the quirks with the system. I'm sure they'll be getting this if they're still shooting golf.

Edit: When was automerging of replies added? Neat feature!

2 hours ago, Trek of Joy said:

Sony has a Japan only model too, the international cameras cost more in Japan, a few hundred USD after conversion - that's why I'm waiting until I get to HK and weighing my options.

Cheers 

I had the NX1 for a few months after it was released, way too much noise in the stills at 3200+ and I'm doing rough edits of my video on a 12" MacBook, 4k is fine but h265 is a no go. Also, the 12-24 isn't wide enough for me and I don't think in the long run it'll fare any better than my current UWA on the dust front.

Cheers

HK is a good idea, cheapest stuff I've seen next to Japan devauluing the Yen.

7 hours ago, webrunner5 said:

This camera is basically a A7s MkII on steroids! In this day and age you can shoot higher ISO's than you ever imagined. Why is everyone hung up on not shooting above ISO 800?? What the hell! This camera can do just that, shoot high ISO's. You really don't need super fast lenses anymore? Canon and Nikon, as of today, just sucked ASS big time. Game on!!

Even in a UEFA Category 1 stadium ISO 3200 or 6400 is needed with a f/2.8 lens sometimes. The target group of this camera will disagree on your dismissal of super fast lenses.

Olympus's dust sealing is pretty great. Um, isn't there an English option? Only Panasonic does that, I think.

Also, that AF joystick is a much needed addition. I hope it filters down to the rest of Sony's lineup.

1 hour ago, rak_heri said:

Instead the focus is 20fps. Who needs 20fps?

Sports photogs can be interested, but they need big white lenses. Sony doesn't have any of those.

I have no idea which kind of user Sony is targeting for this.

Hmm, that's true, maybe it's a sign they're coming?

1 hour ago, webrunner5 said:

They just added a 100-400mm lens. I would think that, and a 24-70mm would be be the bees knees. I know the 100-400 is sort of slow, but this thing goes up to over 200,000 ISO!

No way will that ISO be suitable for pro work. At the end of the day even with the best Nikon/Canon a f/2.8 lens is still needed when shooting sport in a stadium at night. Sony doesn't have any superteles unlike Nikon and Canon.

6 minutes ago, Inazuma said:

They really knocked it out of the park with this camera didn't they. 

With a BSI 24mp sensor maybe SLOG won't be neccessary...? Can anyone school me here? Maybe highlights can be brought down somehow? I don't understand why cameras need a LOG function with boosted ISO when the full dynamic range is available at iso 100 for stills?

Full dynamic range is only with raw; all other formats have the tone curve baked in to a certain extent. That's why LOG is neat, since the there's a bit more latitude to play with when grading.

1 minute ago, Eric Calabros said:

PJ still market is like a dead body. Way fewer people buy D5/1DX style cameras these days compared to even 2012. I don't know why they suddenly decided to focus on that segment. 

Prestige? Halo product? I have no idea. 

Everyone, they aren't winning or anything like that. This is a very specific claim, starting with the fact it's only about FF bodies, and over a TWO MONTH period. In terms of OVERALL market share, they're still a distant third to Canon and Nikon. PR stunt this is.

On 4/12/2017 at 5:55 PM, Inazuma said:

This new camera seems to cannibalise the d500?? What are the advantages of the d500 now?

10 FPS vs 8 and the 153 point AF module. Dual card slots with UHS-II slot vs single UHS-I slot. Pro level UI. Bigger VF. 10 pin legacy remote terminal (positioning far better for use in stills when using an L-bracket). Likely more durable shutter.

8 hours ago, Geoff CB said:

I'm very interested in Ryzen for my next upgrade, but trying to hold off for now until I need it. As usual, I need more lighting before I invest in my rig more. I want a 1080 ti, but it is not a need (Or so I keep telling myself). Hoping AMD can come out swinging for Nvidia with their next GPU as well. 

Currently:
AMD R9 Fury X
Intel i7-5820K  3.3 @ 4.2 ghz
32gb Ram

1080 Ti might be a bit much. Sweet spot is the 1070 for price-performance. As you said, you might want to see how Vega performs too.

13 hours ago, MaxAperture Films said:

I'm running an RX 480 GPU at the moment.  Regarding RAM, you can check out kit compatibility reported informally by some users here - http://rymem.vraith.com/basic/view_by_mobo .  If you want to see the BIOS version they were running at the time just click the embedded CPU-Z report.

My G.Skill DDR4 3000 is currently running at 2933 with the default XMP profile in Gigabyte BIOS (GA-AB350M-Gaming 3 Motherboard).  You're right - it may not hold if I scale up to 4 DIMMs.  Waiting to see how things shake out on the support side of things first.

It's worth noting, on some motherboards with early BIOS you actually had to overclock the R7 1700 higher than base clock in order to get it to post above the default 2133 memory speed.  I believe that issue has been resolved with the latest AMD microcode update.  Regardless, you can easily overclock to 3.6 Ghz without even touching voltage.  3.7 Ghz requires only another 0.06V added to the offset (1.248 V-Core).  At 3.8+ Ghz the stock cooler isn't really adequate for the resulting heat.  3.7 Ghz appears to be the sweet spot for price/performance with this chip.

Hey thanks, that was useful information. The new updates from both AMD and the motherboard manufacturers appear to have given a speed boost as well. As usual I won't be using the stock cooler, will be going for something nice like a Cryoig H5, so we will see. Overclocking is not always a good thing in 30C weather, but with a 65W TDP I hope I'll have some room to do so.

3 hours ago, MaxAperture Films said:

Most of my vid rendering work is with Vegas Pro14 these days.  I'm only running 16GB of memory at the moment but 4K previews and timeline scrubs are effortless, even when fed by slow USB drives.  Render times with the GPU are approximately 50% faster than what my i7 could pull off.  Lightroom also seems much faster at importing and exporting files.

I would recommend getting the cheapest 8 core chip (1700) and clocking it at 3.6 - 3.8 Ghz, above that the power consumption begins to become exponentially higher and delivers little tangible performance in trade.  The stock RGB cooler can handle 3.6 or 3.7 at sustained workloads (Prime 95, long renders, etc.).  Buying the 1700X or 1800X is a waste of money for a workstation build, IMO.  Better to put that savings toward DDR4 3000 or 3200 memory and see additional performance gains (the so-called "infinity fabric" wakes up at higher clock speeds).

Can't say enough good things about this $300 CPU... it is absolutely perfect for creators on a budget.  I hope a down-clocked version shows up in laptops this year, at 2.8 Ghz it only consumes around 45W of power.  It would be an incredibly responsive system for those of us who need to edit 4K while on the road.

Thanks! Yea, was leaning towards the 1700, it looks like the best buy in the R7 lineup. 

Not sure about the RAM, since Ryzen doesn't officially support those speeds, and will drop speeds once you use four sticks of memory. What GPU did you say you're on?

9 hours ago, MaxAperture Films said:

I just did the same thing but not quite as much RAM...  R7 CPU + mATX board + V21 cube case + DDR4 memory + 600W P/S for under $600.  I then paid off half the upgrade by eBaying my old 4790 and DDR3.  Even at a meager 3.6Ghz this system completely eviscerates the Haswell it has replaced.  Talk about a cheap performance boost!

What software are you running on? Thinking of getting an upgrade this year or early next year.

2 hours ago, jonpais said:

When they show the back of the camera, you can see he's using 'cloudy' instead of Kelvin. There's no way in god's green earth that those LED lights have a color temperature of 'cloudy'! hahaha  

It's an old trick to warm up the image, done when the first digital cameras didn't have dedicated Kelvin settings.

15 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

GOOD satire.

He's too busy at the DPReview forums

Good gods, I saw his name. Um, good luck to everyone there.

Andrew, are you actually going to contact them? I'm curious to know if their PR agencies are still as hard-headed as ever...