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I think that the new Sony AF beats Canon DPAF. I did not expect that this soon. 

A proper DPAF is the first feature I wait for in the GH6. Secondly internal ProRes Raw would be amazing, if not at least internal 10bit at 4K60p. 

4K120p or at least a good quality FHD 180p would be nice.

I can't believe they are serving the 6DII sensor in this camera. This company will never stop to disappoint. A $200 APSC Nikon D5200 has better DR and produce better landscape photos than this. That's insane, really insane.  
They just have to put a decent sony-like sensor in their cameras and give decent specs like 4K no crop (like ALL FF mirrorless manufacturers in the world do except them) and people would be all over Canon. Every body out there no exception would buy Canon if they matched A7III specs even for more expensive because everybody agree their ergonomics is better. Yet ergonomics is not all. At the end of the day if I have the best body and menus in the world to output a 1.7 crop wobbly image at this price then I have got nothing. 

Yet they prefer to release garbage and only retain some of their users, with 80% of Sony/Nikon users laughing at them. 

Can't understand this company. 

8 hours ago, Inazuma said:

What did I say huh ? They've announced the lenses now. $2299 for a 50mm f1.4

You were right. I placed much hope in this camera and it’s a full disappointment. The lens price is even more laughable and I guess no one but you would have predicted that price for a 50mm 1.4. 

Good luck to Panasonic selling this joke, they might need some.

14 hours ago, Yurolov said:

- many people will prefer the ergonomics to sony and wont care about the extra bit of weight.

- you haven't tried to video af so am surprised you would know before literally everyone. 

-given the additional specs you failed to mention, I doubt many would say it is overpriced.

-they have said that you will have internal 10bit 4k with paid upgrade. Show me any other brand who gives you the same in a mirrorless. 

-lens choices are fine for video and you will be able to adapt sigma. 

I cant believe people are upset at this release - literally no other full frame or apsc hybrid gives you these kind of specs. 

Its gonna be fun having smooth full frame 10 bit footage that is usable unlike sony and nikons current implementation. Cant wait. 

You forget the age of A7SII is old gen, when the III is here this year it will offer much more. I have owned a GH5 and Andrew reports the AF on the S1 is worst which is ridiculous and unacceptable. 

I can guarantee those cameras won’t sell. It does not bring anything exciting to the table really and because they are outsiders they need to bring much more if they want people running away from Sony and canicon.

Full video specs being out, this camera is a disappointment:

- massively heavy 

- 5y old AF for video 

- overpriced 

- poor codecs show (and this has been confirmed by rumors) that a proper video body will come later (like the A7S line)

- poor lens choice 

I am waiting for the S1H and A7SIII 

Oly is dead. Fuji is bringing nice tech on the table (XT3 specs) and medium format, Panasonic is going FF and has class leading cameras (GH5). 

This camera will be the biggest flop of the year. Oly brings nothing to the table and again, they will die. 

Bye Oly.

On 1/22/2019 at 6:06 PM, fuzzynormal said:

Hope not.  Mostly, it does look like a good camera for MY needs so I'll consider it.  Pretty good spec list.  However, one of my top priority needs is 60fps 4K.  It's just something I use when shooting.

EDIT:  Just checked the rumor site.  60p in 4K, so no worries there.

LOL, I told you... 

Very embarrassing. M43 has almost nothing left nowadays..

$3600 and no 4K60p? Would be laughable if true.

"I have never seen anything like it"

5 hours ago, thebrothersthre3 said:

Very nice! Hopefully it motivates everyone else to follow suit. I knew this was coming this year. Canon may lose its number 1 auto focus title. 

Looks like the A7RIII and A7III won't see the update though. 

Yes they get the update it’s been announced officially (most features including continuous eye AF, animal AF, intervalometer...)

comes in April.

Can’t wait to see what they got for the A7SIII 

Wow

Yes you are missing the AF. D5700 AF will suck in video. 

So I would much prefer a mirorless D5700 with 4K60p IBIS and good AF for $1300$. 

1 hour ago, Snowbro said:

Canon was caught having unacceptable DR, then they fixed it in the 5d iv. Since they have publicly stated they are aware that they have to make their 4k better, I bet they will get it within 10% of the competition this year. They usually follow Nikon & vise versa. I guarantee if their spies hadn't told them nikon was releasing a mirrorless, they wouldnt have put out the eos r, which clearly wasnt ready yet. 

They did not really fixed it with the 5DIV. It's still a full stop behind the competition which is not what I call fixed. It's just that in comparison to what they did before (their FF sensors with no better DR than a M43 sensor, which was really ridiculous) it's much better. Much better than absolute shit does not mean it is great, at all. 

By the time they are "within 10% of the competition" and release 4K with little to no crop, the competition will be 4K60P no crop 10 bit internal already, and so on. 

For someone who owns a C200 and 1DXII and films his face then yeah, the EOS R makes a lot of sense. You can use the same lens, easy to match in post, the colors right out of the box need less grading than let's say a Sony. You don't need wide angle and you have little to no movement and you do not use slowmo (on the EOSR, you have the 1DX for that). So yeah that's a lot of sense. 

Now someone like me who is not into one ecosystem, who needs wide angle (mountain/extreme sports/landscape shooting) 80% of the time, who needs slowmo, and who needs decent RS due to action well, the EOS-R is garbage, even for $500 I would not get one. 
And while I am a specific case, I think most video oriented people do want decent RS, use their lenses without 1.7 crop and a lot do want slowmo too. So overall objectively this camera is an epic fail. 

It's very good that it cant fit the need of a minority of people and specific use for sure. Hopefully they will release something with 4K60P and no crop. I love Canon bodies and ergonomics. My first ever DSLR was a Canon. I then owned the 5D2 and 5D3, at which point the competition started to be much much better. 

Now this is what I call an update.

Many improvements,  new features for video, intervalometer, finally touch screen tracking. Most of those improvement I thought would come for the A7SIII. Now they also come for existing product. 

Sony just announced a major firmware update with continuous Eye AF tracking, animal Eye AF and finally.... intervalometer!!

Truly insane. Bye Canon DPAF?

Sony A6400 is here. My point of view:

Uninteresting camera, with great new AF tech.

check the Sony video. The AF tracking seems incredible and they finally implemented touch AF. 

While I don’t care about this camera I am happy to see the A7SIII AF will be great.

The S1 does not have phase detect af.

contrast based

On 1/10/2019 at 2:03 PM, thebrothersthre3 said:

I wouldn't call 1.18 a large crop. 

1.18 x 1.5 =1.77. Yep, that's huge.

In any case, I am not buying a FF camera to get any kind of crop. I hope the S1 will be 4K60p no crop, and same for A7SIII. If there is a crop on a FF like the EOS-R, then I am better buying a smaller sensor, with lenses that are smaller and eventually getting the same final crop. 

Totally agree with him on Premiere. FCPX is a million time more enjoyable AND faster.

On 1/5/2019 at 1:28 AM, jase said:

Just curious, but where did you find the specs?

A friend of mine photographer was at the wedding :). 

Also why this thread turned into a discussion about jon?

Brilliant. ProRes RAW is awesome. 

If only this thing had 4k60p. 

Good news for the competition from Pana and Sony 

26 minutes ago, thebrothersthre3 said:

Didn't the A7s2 have ibis

Oh did it? Sorry. Again not my video just saw this random guy work, and found his video quite great looking and natural. In a time where we go for 4K gimbals and super strong AF (myself included) it’s nice to see what you can do with an old lens and basic stuff.