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I always liked the Mark 2's image over the 3's.. But that was the compressed stuff. I wonder if there's a big difference here. (Sans moire, blah blah.)

Is the rolling shutter still terrible on 5D2 raw?

A large chunk of BMPC pre-orders are 5D owners who wanted RAW. At the current pace of ML development it's quite certain that the hack will be fine-tuned and stable by July, - Blackmagic's promised shipping date for BMPC. I suspect that this chunk of their customers will be a lot less forgiving if BM misses this deadline. Personally, I will stick with BMPC but I imagine many won't. 

BMPC + 5D = For $8.5k you now have a RAW acquisition workflow with access to Ultra-Wide-Angle Full-Frame / S35 / Global Shutter, Low light and 4K, all of it handheld and portable in a single backpack. Fuck.

This is 99% a forum of indies, low budget guys, people who will jump through hoops for image quality. 

Jumping through the hoops to achieve great shots is what you do regardless of budget. Danny Boyle's crew ran around slums of Mumbai with cams tethered to macbooks running Windows XPs wrapped in actual ice packs that had to be constantly changed because they were...melting.

Whiners would say that's a retarded and unprofessional workflow. Winners are too busy gunning for their next Oscar. :D

If you have a crew and you're shooting in 40sec or 49sec or even 1min bursts I feel really sorry for your crew and your talent and everyone else associated with being in that goat rodeo.  It's a waste and you should be ashamed of yourself for wasting all of those people's time and effort.  

 

And that's the last thing I'll say about such foolishness.  

Leave the Bible-thumping for Sunday. If you or your actors can't use your creativity to adapt to technical barriers, - you're in the wrong industry. 

No, definitely not.

 

It is incredibly, incredibly naive to base any assumption on shooting lengths based on final edit lengths.  

 

People are not robots.  They do not instantly come to ready at the same time.  They do not get their head into the game at the same time. The more people involved the more ramp-up time is needed.  40sec isn't enough time to slate in some cases.  If you're doing something difficult or emotionally charged, you may have been rolling a minute or more before a take actually begins.  

 

If ML does nothing more than where current development is at today, they have to get true continuous recording or this thing is a big toy.

A bad dancer will blame his balls for being in the way. Being able to work around limitations is exactly what low-budget indie filmmaking is all about and is the difference between having a film and not having a film. In the days of film actors had to wait between magazines being loaded, and that delay would often "get them out of the zone". I suppose this is a similar annoyance, but it would not stop a determined crew/talent.

Personally, I feel the Creative Suite has become rather outdated over the years anyway, - I hope this announcement is going to result in some new software developers coming into the market and writing new software from the ground up with innovative new approaches to UI/workflow/integration for the creative community.

For example Lightworks, the editor that was used to cut Pulp Fiction is coming to OSX this year. 

http://nofilmschool.com/2013/04/lightworks-beta-mac-os-demonstrated-nab/

Till then, CS6 will be my friend.

We're not even through the middle of 2013 and the camera scene has been turned upside down twice already this year.

2013 - the year of RAW wars!

 

I wonder what Canon is thinking about this. Their crippling has been converted into a better version of the high end video cameras they want to protect! AHAHA!

 

Anyway how could this ever work with SD cards? Maybe the 550d is out of the game :( 600d only does 1280x340 with problems.

 

They're probably trying to figure out how to cripple 7D Mark II which has 1DX hardware components. 

A greenscreen showdown between BMCC and 5D3 would be awesome.

Andrew, if you're not too busy could you shoot someone ( or even your dog ) against a green screen and post a frame? I'm really curious how the 5D RAW will key. 14-bit 422 is going to have some serious firepower in post.

Can someone do a quick greenscreen test and post the DNGs? I'm curious how this footage keys.

Surely, at that point, you just give up... sell you camera and get a BMCC?

I already have BMPC on pre-order, but the hackability of 5D is probably the most fascinating case study of consumer self-empowerment I have ever witnessed, so I'm curious how far the tech can be pushed regardless.

I wonder if a hardware mod to increase the buffer is theoretically possible.

Get an external drive dock and blu-ray burner and you shouldn't have issues with organization and archiving. Or just get this -

http://www.sonnettech.com/product/echo15thunderboltdock.html

What is unprecedented is 4K global shutter in such a small body. Even at $15k+ this camera would be a winner for high-budget action sequences, nevermind $4K. 

Is this what they used in the Matrix for the city skyline when Neo shoots through the glass to bust out Morpheus, or were they using actual printed backgrounds? I remember the city skyline being shot in-camera.

The optical image won't be the same 

Correct, I meant to say "optical distortion" instead of "optical image" in that sentence.

Those 4 center squares at the bottom are the sweet spot with least distortion, so an S35 will naturally take advantage of that.

Question is, will it make much difference visually? Only the eye will tell, I have an old Canon 20D lying around with a 1.6x factor, will have to make my own test sometime.

LaForet is still pushing "game changing" MOVI while the industry is in shell shock from the BMCP announcement. Like pissing against the rain.

Question is, if her face was more centered in the "35mm" image ( i.e as it would be on "crop" / S35 ), would it make a significant difference in reducing distortion? I wish I could find a proper focal length comparison on a 7D online with horizontal orientation. I'm 75% sure that it would not make a difference, but I guess I'm fishing for a magical solution that would allow me to shoot close to the actors without distortion.

Only actual tests with the BMPC will tell.

Let's remember that BM has been repeating one point over and over, - they have a warehouse of BMCC/BMPC bodies ready and waiting for a sensor to be dropped in. Most of the assembly work has already been done.

Wait for 7D2 this year.

Kineraw is 11.5 stops, no EF IS, no on-board display, no 4K, no global shutter. They have to go $2k if they want to survive.