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Glad to hear that...the current BMCC 2.5k has a bad habit of dropping frames and getting hot after half an hour of shooting, I wonder if the 4K camera will be able to avoid these same problems...I'd rather shoot in smooth 2K than have 4K with dropped frames.

They're trying to lock out other people from doing full reviews..? WTF...too much ego and competition in this game nowadays.

Andrew, did you experience any drop frames during the Kineraw shoot? Thanks.

I think alot of the complaints that people level at RAW comes from their experience shooting with RED cameras, which have terrible batteries and require lot of data wrangling. 

Does anyone else get the uncomfortable feeling every time Dan Chung of News Shooter starts man-handling the gear? He is like a kid that has to touch everything. Every rep he interviews gets that same look on their face of fear.

I notice it too, but I actually appreciate that, it gives a good feel for the product. For example, when he started spinning the original Kineraw on the table it made me realize that the camera is not that heavy. 

P.S - Oh, and by the way, why the hell does Stallone look so sad? I never got this about him...he just seems depressed all the time. 

It seems that Kickstarted has become a vanity thing for celebrities as opposed to a real source of funding, - the "Hey, look much fans love me" sort of thing. Expect Kim Kardashian to pitch her next perfume line on Kickstarter in 4, 3, 2....

Wow, I'm really liking the spirit of these guys, they are pushing full steam ahead with new products despite a serious threat from BM. It is possible that they are already successful enough in their domestic market to withstand BM's competition.

Affordable S35 RAW is a very specific market that noone has tapped into yet ( except 7D, lol ) , and it is also the largest market because it is closest to traditional 35mm and that's what most independent filmmakers aiming for theatrical distribution will go for. 

BMPC 4K ( Built in 4K Recorder, Built in Monitor ) = $4,000

KINERAW Mini + 4K Recorder + Monitor = $7,000

At $4000, you will be able to get a Kineraw with an external monitor, and still have only half the resolution of BMPC and no global shutter in the same price range. So you'd have to choose between 4K RAW + Global Shutter vs 2K RAW + 100fps.

Tough choice. 

Before BM floods the market with affordable RAW cinema cameras, Kineraw still has a chance to gain marketshare by dropping Kineraw Mini to $2K. It would be a desperate move, but one that could pay off in the long run. They have a chance now to use BM's delays to their advantage, it would be much more difficult to gain RAW marketshare later.

Can anyone imagine Steve Jobs quitting Apple just because people thought he was an asshole? A visionary is driven by the passion of invention, not by having his ego stroked. Pathetic.

I love the images coming out of this camera and the form factor, I almost ordered this but pulled back due to lack of IS support, will definitely reconsider if they enable it. 

I'm not editing on that tiny screen, no matter what the GPU is.

The 4K page changed from "Shipping July" to "Shipping August". 

Any day now... 

The NTGs also have additional accessories like shock mount and pistol grip w/ zeppelin, - quite a modular system overall.

Would people be happier with Apple's policy? Not tell anyone anything until the units are in the store?

I think so. They shouldn't have announced anything at NAB and instead shocked everyone with shipping units. Apple are geniuses at product rollout. 

My local dealer claims the 4K camera will be available in August. Right around the time of the rumoured new 50mp 4K DSLR from Canon. 

The problem with sponsored sites/forums is that they eventually start censoring free speech and criticism under the slogan "Let's all be professional, folks" as if being nice is more important than being right. I love EOSHD forum because it has the most free environment for discussion. 

Criticism will be healthy for BMD, it will prevent them from becoming the next RED cult and keep fanatics and douchebags at bay.

Wow, now THAT is balanced moderation. Stay classy Andrew.

You provoke someone through constant harassment, then accuse them of being classless? Cmon.

I cancelled my Blackmagic Order for the 4K model. I spent the money I got back going to see the Adam Curtis and Massive Attack documentary in Manchester (whihc as you know was amazing) and pocketed the rest.

 

I couldn't deal with heaving no idea when they were going to ship, and thus whip the money out of my account.

I half-expect they will ship the pocket on time but will bump the 4K to December or something. Will hold out for a few more weeks. 

"I can go make the movie for 10 or 150, but you can’t make Lawrence of Arabia. You couldn’t get it made. Steven couldn’t get it made. You couldn’t try to get The English Patient made today. "

Robert Rodriguez would call these guys "Americants".

Don't.

Use.

Lens flares.

Trust me, we'll be seeing a lot less anti-Chinese themes from Hollywood in the future as International box office now basically became more important than US Domestic, and China is a big chunk of international grosses. They already changed the bad guys from Chinese to Koreans in the recent "Red Dawn".