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BINGO! Hee hee Sorry went back to vid and noticed it was labelled 1080. I can live with a bit of moire now and then in slowmo, have you found any moire in your 4k footage yet? This is 4K gx85:

Nooooo! As someone who videos people who wear clothes quite a bit this is a massive pain in the arse. I find with the gx85 big patterns will moire at a distance, smaller ones closer, and closer still the weave of the clothes becomes problematic. was this 1080 slow mo? or 4K?

I bought a nikon 5300 because the dynamic range was close to my d800. This was how I discovered dxo marks were a big fat waste of time. In fact I'm sure there is a better metric that could show the how noisy the shadows are when the highlights are just blowing out.

I had a mate that used to write for a camera mag. Panasonic used to take them hither and thither and wine & dine them. I'm sure they would've got corporate blowjobs if it was de rigueur. I'm pretty sure that journalists would need to declare such things, but blog writers? Youtubers? Keep doing what you do Andrew, its extremely rare and refreshing. ANd the od add or affiliate link on here would not phase me in the least. BTW same mate applied for a writer's job at DPREVIEW. He was editor of a camera mag. The job in question was unpaid. Unpaid! Classy.

Okey dokey. I think I would though. I'm a bit anal with my monitors But It sounds like the sort of thing that comes down to personal preference.

thanks @Vesku awesome to see that practically demonstrated! RE the 4:4:4 thing. You absolutely want this if you are doing anything other than showing video on the monitor. 4:2:2 will make text and interface stuff look horrible. thats why referring to rtings is so good - as they will only have 4:4:4 TV in their selections for use-as-monitor. Dont understand why philips is the only manufacturer with a 40" monitor. I'd love to see LG's DCI 4K at 38+ inches

when you're that close to a big monitor the edges of the screen would surely be approaching the viewing angle limit of VA?? Wouldn't they be darker?

scratch that philips: massive burn in issues.

so that samsung had a VA panel, so I've decided to wait till the Sony X850D (x8500d in aus) comes on sale somewhere. IPS, 120hz, and much better gamut and HDR. Downside: the smallest version is 55". The x8000d 49" is also IPS. The other option is a philips 4k, Philips BDM4350UC 43" IPS with 100%Srgb. I think this may be why I rejected the idea previously (as thE LG has 99% Adobe RGB). But 100%srgb is great compared to the TVs. Its only 8 bit panel, though whereas the IPS TVs seem to be 10 bit.

I'm saying the monitor would be huge - compared to what I'm (or mostly people would be) used to. Yes I figured pixel density would be about the same as I've got at the moment with a 2560 wide 27 inch. But that LG is 50% higher. Ho Hum

kaylee look at the link in the original post. it'll lead you back to a page all about tv's as monitors. the one I mentioned is the cheapest smallest one available but the 6000 series goes up to 70" I think. I recon a 40" tv on your desk probably wouldn't need ui scaling. it'd be yuge Since writing this I saw a review of the LG 32" 4k dci monitor with 99.9% adobe rgb and thse extra 200 ish pixels and its twice the price and now I dont know what to do. :p

This: http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/ku6300 Is cheap over here at the mo. Was thinking of using it for the program window in premiere, and keep a smaller colour accurate monitor for doing grading and whatnot (and for lightroom and PS). is this a totally stupid idea? (I currently have 2560x1440 27" monitor, and just think that's too small for 4K).

Well dji have solved the issue by literally thinking outside the box. I wouldn't mind a totally stupid looking camera that could should 4K raw...

its slightly bonkers that a drone manufacturer is pushing the camera tech envelope more than the camera manufacturers. You need certification to fly the inspire in australia, so it's off my radar for now, but if I had it it would be a no-brainer. Next phantom could well have raw vid. Helloooo... Nikon.... wakey wakey.....

That ship has sailed, the genie has left the bottle. Everyone (at least in Australia) calls them drones ? Magic has 28mm ish equivalent lens. P4 20 mm. This is the only thing that has left me even vaguely considering the p4. But I've decided to go magic. Too many other plusses, and I prefer the look of the video too.

oh just the snippets of 4K that have been posted ( think they're all on this thread). To my eye it looks a bit more organic than the gx85, but its early days

Sorry should've specified: G80/85. Everyone is saying g80 and gx85 will have identical video, but from what I've seen this is not so... maybe @andy lee can confirm;)

ive seen no sign of the moire i found on the gx85 in the clips i've seen so far. Would love to see some 1080/60 footage

That's a ton of great info. Listen to that man! :). Don't be perturbed if you can't afford that kit, you can still get amazing quality with lesser kit. But I'd agree 4k is key. If you don't have a monitor you can use an old PC monitor or TV. I've got decent sound out of this: http://tascam.com/product/dr-08/reviews/. On location even, but you need some judicious work in audition, and it's foibles are hidden for me with music. There's a super cheap mic here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ecs0GWaPtto and that guys channel is worth having a gander at. But If you have the budget, and you know you're going to use the kit, buy quality, buy once.

They're rather quick, what. Ok they're a bit pricer than sd cards, but you could pull em out, and edit on them. (And makes getting raw 4k a doddle ;)) http://www.anandtech.com/show/10698/samsung-announces-960-pro-and-960-evo-m2-pcie-ssds

well I think they were a bit conservative with their moire suppression THe d5500 on the other hand is a lot softer than the d5300, presumably softened to reduce moire as it too lacks an AA filter (and I think the 5300 had one). THe stills from the d5500 are fantastic. THe video, not so. I'm very much wanting a grown up video camera at this point. My rx100iv is the closest thing I've got to being usable in all modes, but its usability is also poor. I wish blackmagic would do something with its sensor.

yes indeedee one of the kit lenses 12-32 I think, why'd you ask? (I got some gnarly moire using the sigma 35mm on the original speedbooster, too - not as bad as this, but still bad).

I'll send you the shirt of moire if you like So I ended up fixing it in a hilarious way. I tried in photoshop and in premiere, I used several techniques that I've used before but it none of them really cut the mustard. So I found a frame that was slightly out of focus (no moire) and animated that over the chap. He was pretty stationary, it mostly works :D

Despite the moire thing, I got sucked into using the gx85 on a few shoots - love the picture I'm getting out of it and then this... Yep a whole day of this moire-tastic shirt to deal with. Almost be quicker to go reshoot. There was no clue in the viewfinder that this was happening either - the moire is so fine. I think this is up there as the worse that I've seen. and this is from the 4K image. will be looking at this closely on the g80

Looks like its got quick release on each axis - nice. I was thinking of getting the pilotfly h2, this one is very similar, but first gen. Not sure it offers much over the h2 apart from $150 cheaper, but pilotfly have pretty decent support whereas I know nothing of tilta. I wonder how heavy it is?