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Yep well gh3 probably would have been the sensible choice at that point. Note to self: err on the side of the more professional camera. Instead I went with the a6000, speedbooster and all, and found my nikon 14-24 didn't work with it. It may be an issue with this camera or speedbooster. Couldn't wait for replacements though, had to go out and buy a nikon 5300. By the time I've finished this I'll have tried every $1000 ish camera out there ;)

Just tried my 14-24 on the a6000 and it wont focus to infinity at 14mm. :( Its not slightly off either, its miles off. High res: http://1drv.ms/1hTnLyT (right click view original) Also weird curvy field of focus on the 35mm f1.4, which you can also see a little in the 55-210 kit lens. I'm hoping this is an issue with the a6000, rather than with my lens (which does focus to infinity on my d800).

My first bit of testing over the weekend. I'll do something a bit more scientific at some point. I wanted to get a feel for how it compares to the hacked gh2. Gh2 using nikon glass (sigma35mm f1.4m and tamron 70-300), a6000 using kit lenses 16-50 and 55-210 (all I have until adaptors arrive).

Is it just me or is this 50p clip gnarly? Moire, aliasing and overall looking very videoy compared to the organic feel of the G6 and gh3 The little bit of video in the camerstore review (5:50 ish) although overexposed looks very sony-ish to me. Highlights are not nice. Yada yada. need to see more! I would've bought one today, didn't come in to stock. I bought the speedbooster though, buggery bum.

I need to pull the pin on this or the G6 tomorrow. So Andrew: is the rolling shutter not too bad? Is the dynamic range and low light better than the G6/Gh3?

12Mpix on Apsc would be great for me: all apsc lenses available, all full frame lenses available via speedbooster. I could use my 14-24 at F2. Drool. Whilst you're at it throw in 5 axis stabilization. I'll hanging to see how the GH4's dynamic range stacks up to sony's.

Where's that clip gone? :)

I have the exact same query and am after the same thing as Liszon.

Urgh and then Andrew complicates things again this morning. That a6000 would let me get my hands on the sony 10-18 (or in fact the canon 10-22 again with an active adaptor). I wonder just how much better than the g6 the video is

thanks folks, the f4 of the 7-14 has put me off. I find the f2 equivalent of the 11-16 invaluable for what I do. Anyone want a second hand gh2?

I have a GH2, D800 and 60d. So far the GH4 looks like a very sensible next step, but typically I have 2 big jobs that need shooting before it'll be out. I have a speedbooster, and a growing collection of nikon glass. I do a lot of wide lens stuff currently with the tokina 11-16, but I miss the canon 10-22, bigger range and less barrel distortion. I shoot a bit of timelapse now and then Theres only about $250 separates g6, d5300, and gh3. Don't especially shoot in low light, but have found the gh2 blocky noise and fizz in the shadows to be an issue. If the G6 is no different in that regard I'll rule it out. (Some people say its better, some dont). I like the dynamic range of the d800 video, but thats about it. Really need a decent fast ultrawide for M43 or APSC too. (12mm doesn't cut it on M43, I need 7-9mm or 10-12 on apsc).

Maybe there is less thought going on there than there is here.  Nikon and olympus' lack of interest in this sector is also baffling.  They don't suffer from vertical integration.  They could release a raw shooting 1080p camera that would knock all the competition out of the park (save hacked 5d3) at the same price point.  The only reasons I can see they don't is SONY.      And as for them, I wonder how crippled the video will be on the next gen NEX cameras?   

Oh and if they do 4K raw, you can bet it will compete with the canon cinema cameras on price rather than the blackmagic :/

I dont need the 4k, its about low noise, high sensitivity and dynamic range and 60fps for me.  Nikon are the only big camera maker that don't need to worry about cannibalising sales of their video cameras (for the obvious reason). 6 months ago I resigned myself to investing in a separate video solution after looking at what sony nikon and canon were offering in their full frame dslrs.  I jumped to Nikon FF from canon crop. I would love nikon to start taking video more seriously. I'd love it even more if they worked on improving the video in their DSLRS rather than creating a vertically integrated product line, but hey ho, thats market forces for you.

I've got a hacked GH2, and it doesn't really cut the mustard at iso 1600+.  I've spent the last few hours looking at nex5n footage, and it looks a bit cleaner.  Any opinions on whether I'll find it better than the gh2 and my 60d? Things will change once I can get the m4/3 speedbooster  = f2 11mm.   Its also cheap as chips right now, and apparently (according to Johnnie Behiri at least) better than its replacements (moire always an issue for my stuff).   Anything else out there I should look at?

Well panasonic should consider this: They were so far off my radar before i started reading about the GH2 they may as well have been zenit. In fact the whole 4/3rds system was of zero interest to me.  Now I find myself recommending it to friends and students.  So pander to the niche, please pansonic: you may not sell lots of them, but you cant underestimate the effect that the positive press from the pros is having on your brand.

I Think B looks a bit dodgy because its overlit.  The guy in green is too light and too front lit.

I'm not sure how to evaluate the cameras - because you're not when you look at each scene - you're evaluating the  Cinematographer.  The only conclusion I can draw is that they all look OK.  But would curious to know which shots took the longest to set up and used the most light.  (Sure you can use a $700 camera but if it takes 3x the time and light to get a result then your savings are gone). Also curious why its graded so dark.  This is a daylight scene - late afternoon by the angle of the "sun" - light streaming through the window.  The table lamps would not contribute significant amounts of light compared to the sun.  OUtside: its daytime, inside: evening. I would've liked to have seen the set lit realistically, one take with NO additional lighting, and THEN let te DPs do their thing.