Emanuel

Why not another most affordable phone, a cheaper route, no?

To each their own. They struggle for their rights. Users for their interest : ) People should try to understand someone's else standpoint : -)

@Parker It is perfect for travelling ; ) Never forget, the best camera is the one you can have and use ; -) @Snowbro They have no other contenders, that's why... With such lovely promos becomes useless any Western complaints, so I invite you to use some other phone, it will save the colour of the hair intact : ) And here's the usual Justine (not the 1st time I find a worthy pinch of creative approach from her tech love on the potential of its use along her enjoyable reviews beyond her pleasant presence, truly American, a comfort to those who see the raising of Chinese as main high-tech suppliers of this planet today) : ...yet some other reviewer: ...from the usual suspects: More footage: Very light comparative flight footage: Last but not least informative details on the product: E : -)

https://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/mi-note-10-launch-teaser-108-megapixel-xiaomi-phone-cc9-pro-2123976 https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_note_10-9936.php

Well, you're right considering the price and the tech available today. But let's not forget they add wings for such price as well you have no need of more than that to have a balanced pristine cinematic outcome if you're going after of so sacred grail : -) To be honest the tiny form factor seduces me at a certain point I tend to overcome any shortcomings. Even though there's no reason to not add 4K60p or log there, as you fairly complain. For a higher price, very likely. The point with such low price is the open gates you have to produce stock footage or any other more prone to be able to end in the hands of inexperienced people you add to your crews. This brings me enthusiasm even if seen strictly under a business point of view if so. I'll give you an example: I have a team going to Himalayas in the same moment I am writing to you this. Go figure if not one, you're able to bring to your crew more than one unit as for instance. Follow me? I also tend to pay attention to price because you can evaluate the potentiality of the gear beyond that.

Good one Dave : ) Since I am always blurring ultra high resolution coming out from tiny sensor size devices, I guess this will shine once upsampled to 4K : -)

With such quality lenses for this price, this format system is more alive than ever before. You need to rationalize your investment to work and produce. How to forget it? Let alone the small format factor ; -)

I had noticed it too. But once I don't want to pollute this thread with some topic gear oriented and related, let's keep going here?

Coming from here and there: Here's a focusing copycat comparative field test by the rather interesting Tom Antos' review: Dual Lav mics system advantage over other solutions out there such as these ones, David @IronFilm? In any case heavier than these two, isn't it? https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1472750-REG/azden_pro_xr_2_4ghz_digital_wireless_microphone.html/specs https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1072850-REG/senal_aws_2000_a_advanced_wireless_microphone.html Any other shortcomings as nonlocking connectors for the Azden or lack of dual lav mics offer for both of them I guess? Any other lighter ones to compare with?

I guess registration will be sufficient in a lot of situations such as private or public places where no fuss is added. Common sense also applies as legal procedure : -)

Indeed : ) Even though, the range of shots you can do with a 'toy' like this one goes beyond the restricted regulations in crowd and public locations anyway, here is in Europe ( sorry brexiteers : D ) so you won't be able to avoid the registration as owner at least: https://www.easa.europa.eu/easa-and-you/civil-drones-rpas

LOL You beat me here for a couple of minutes... Let's this one open for new DJI 'toys' to come? I guess this bird is worthy of a new thread by its own, so a new one is there:

And just launched half an hour ago... Pre-order available. Deliver from November 11 on. 400 bucks for 2.7K. Not bad at all : -) https://gizmodo.com/djis-mavic-mini-wants-to-be-the-drone-for-everyone-1839453371

Yeah, I think this shows how committed this man was to innovate no matter the consequences. The idea that why he is a billionaire, he has to be focus on earnings exclusively from a material aim viewpoint doesn't seem to my eyes in touch with reality at all. Without mention no money in the world would bring him happier at his stage of his life and age. His need to care of his health was already known among his private circle, just not public yet. Who closer has been in personal touch with RED family ; ) already had information about. And not exactly from supposed 'online friendships' : D as free guesswork can try to yet fulfill the cup ; -) The most funny is to see how some personal dislike to not mention hate can put people to enter in denial about something out of their control or knowledge. It is quite possible health issues had put him away of Hydrogen project. Other than to complain, why not Hydrogen 2 backers, if any, don't enter in contact with the company to try resolving their business matters? Jim's announcement has just a few days... In any case, I understand the disappointment of Hydrogen adopters. For some reason, I passed that one. I'd rather wait for any product when mature enough to prevent me from buyer's remorse. Unless you realize strictly under a business strategy you'll able to have a solid no brainer advantage in your hands as certain chances can be.

Thanks : ) I guess it is this one, is it @newfoundmass? https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1472750-REG/azden_pro_xr_2_4ghz_digital_wireless_microphone.html/specs

What pros and cons of one and another aside size and weight if any significant, David @IronFilm?

New DJI 'toys' coming soon... One of them is already tomorrow for US$400... Under 250g for 2.7K video https://dronedj.com/2019/10/28/dji-mavic-mini-photos-appear-online/ https://dronedj.com/2019/10/28/ultra-light-dji-mavic-mini-video-review/ Seems Mavic 3 is on the corner for the end of January... https://dronedj.com/2019/10/11/dji-mavic-3-rumored-release-january-2020/ And Osmo Pocket on the 1" sensor side...

https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_teases_a_curved_screen_for_the_mi_cc9_pro_shows_off_its_zoom_camera_on_video-news-39853.php

LOL I wish Ed, believe me, I wish : ) Good one anyway : D Please don't let my dark side to pop up or we risk to wake up the tribe of a certain orange man ; ) and a few will jump here and begin to call me bad names as racist at a certain point I will need to start to apologize for the sake of my own reputation! haha ; -) Jokes aside, no, unfortunately, we are not in majority, at least with power to change the planet. We actually need to be with our eyes wide open in this contemporary universe we all live in, I concur. This is nothing new though. It's only to take a glance on History, the world has always been a complex riddle indeed. A wall BTW is just too flat, we already know is not the case of the (same) globe we all share ; -)

Very true. But they're also bringing new opportunities. Speaking of devil, this digital society we live nowadays has proportioned fresh connections to help our craft. Not only with open chances for business, artistic collaborations but also at a personal backyard. I've had the happiness to enjoy the arrival of new people to my life, sometimes at the distance of different time zones as happened with those coming across this RED project which developed new communities of users or from further online corners such as this one among other ones for sure : ) To be extended at a personal level whether when we have the joy to personally meet someone or as simple as a banal exchange birthday wishes. Well, one of my industry partners has two children, impossible to have occurred those particular two kids if not along the advent of so riddling and ambiguous Internet... LOL : -P

I understand you're trying to decode RED camera company business on their practices and marketing strategies ; ) My contact with this company and the men behind is beyond our own 'online lives' if we can call it like that... LOL : ) I placed money of mine and my partners in their product to match dozens of commercial contacts between two sides of a business relationship as natural as any other going on with other parties. Real money, euros and dollars, not even cryptos! : D I had the chance to attend several meetings promoted by the brand. In one of them in Rome I even brought with me 5% of the people who attended the event. One of them is today one of the most promises of Italian cinema of nowadays. A former colleague who I met in my Master in Rome more than two decades ago. A friend I am used to be with, even in family inner circles. Not the case of RED team members, never happened, but I can surely confirm I've had the pleasure to personally meet and even talk about life in general with a few of them, that is, off topic not necessarily camera related. As usually happens with people we meet in our course of life. In my case since Moscow where I lived to New Zealand where I've produced. Without mention several friends we have in common in real life.

I never found that 'subject to change' policy much appealing to tell you quite frankly. I also understand life is a constant move anyway. I believe he intended to to something and his plans have changed. Hope not for health reasons now become public. This leads to some disappointments for sure. From my own experience I guess if the customer will address such concern to the company they will properly try to respond in the best fair way they can. It happened with me and others in the past. No complaints. On the contrary.

What about any opinion on this product against some other contenders out there?

I understand and even concur on the fairness of such point. Our viewpoint and interest as users : ) Someone on these boards joked with the case of the vanilla ice cream by Nestlé. Go figure if you're on the other side though... ; -) Pretty honest here: I think we should all struggle for our interests and perspectives but don't call me to subscribe character's assassination. Let's talk about ethics and morals? Very well. Along this thread some serious reputation attacks against some individual were produced based on supposed claims which evidences no one here had access if any. Is he here to defend himself? Any law student would be able to confirm this can't be accepted under any standard at any rate. I just can't speak about something I am not able to. Silence is also to consent anyway. For both sides. I realize some people have their scope on topic. No one is blaming anyone for that. It is even informative and healthy but when certain parameters are under our control, it can actually testify how accurate and fair our standpoint is. E : -)

It is in my native Portuguese language (idiom where the article is written) but I guess it expresses exactly my point on what we've been discussing here too -- about the time we all live in as far as the new sacred trinity (what a supreme blasphemy! LOL : ) technology/business/progress concerns: https://www.dn.pt/vida-e-futuro/ha-50-anos-enviou-o-primeiro-email-da-historia-agora-ve-um-lado-obscuro-na-internet-11456892.html