Emanuel

Indeed. I agree with you. Exactly my point about AI : ) It can be beneficial when helps. When replaces, however... For art? No way. This doesn't mean something hybrid but it is up to the driver to choose when yes and when not. And assume the consequences of the choices made. Revolutionary but always for good and bad as all revolutions are or become. - EAG

I still hold three units of them! And 4x Canon M... 4x G7... 2x GF5... 1x 5DMII -- not mirrorless but anyway, today, it is my precious one for absolute personal reasons, hence the exception here! (actually, it was my last reflex before to have changed to mirrorless) 1x GX85... 1x FZ1000... A couple of NX500. Other than a few Blackmagic if those aka cinema cameras count here, FX30 is my daily one nowadays : ) All of them have a particular story of and by their own! Loved the way you've addressed about, as our pets! LOL : ) you've exactly nailed it, I guess why we are all here! :- )

oh God, that's beautiful! < 3 What an artist we have there! We need more stuff of this! : ) Who cares about new features when the old ones are already prone to shine? : P We need shooters and art coming from, not much else...

Absolutely! : ) When not dizzying... I appreciate Andrew is opening this thread for this topic anyway. They can be different things... It's the shooter, folks! ;- )

Usually, action camera footage is crap. This doesn't mean the device itself is. Neither the possibilities we can get from. The fact the lowest price the more wider the basis of the users' skills is. A bit like audiences. You extend the range you'll lower the quality of your outcome, no many options ;- ) - EAG

The best cam is the one you bring and can shoot with. No other camera industry segment has so many upgrades as this one from so many sources. Finally, a place here where we can post it without feeling or sound intrusive in the middle of our sacred college of filmmakers. EAG :- )

As FX30 owner, no way to ignore it... For some reason they haven't called it FX3B ; )

It's not a Lumix but such a shy update FX3 killer! : D Just arrived... FX3A, here's a crucial breakdown (from this source) : Key Differences (FX3A vs FX3) LCD Screen: The most significant change is an upgraded rear LCD screen. The original FX3 featured a screen with approximately 1.44 million dots. The new FX3A incorporates a higher-resolution LCD with approximately 2.36 million dots, the same used in the FX30. This should provide a sharper and more detailed image for monitoring and menu navigation. USB Port: Some sources indicate the FX3A features a more standardized USB-C connection, potentially replacing an older USB 3.2 Gen 1 port on the original FX3. This aims to improve compatibility with modern accessories and streamline workflows. Included Charger: The FX3A is reported to ship with a dual battery charger (BC-QZ1), an improvement over the single-slot charger that came with the original FX3. Removed Features: Some minor, largely defunct features like the infrared remote function and NFC may have been removed in the FX3A. Excluded Accessories: The FX3A reportedly no longer ships with a USB-C cable or power cord. Price: There are indications that the FX3A might have a higher price point (around $4500 in the USA) due to new tariff rules, though this can vary by region and retailer. Some UK retailers list it around £3,599.00. $3,899.99 https://electronics.sony.com/imaging/interchangeable-lens-cameras/all-interchangeable-lens-cameras/p/ilmefx3a

Absolutely. If poorly used, it will look like complete crap. This technology should remain a pure add-on. Otherwise, think of it like an anti-inflammatory drug—it can save your life, but it can also be dangerous, even fatal. What I appreciate here is the return to the written word. Writing for cinema is coming to life again. Repetition is nonsense—hence the earlier example of Marvel, and similarly with certain stylistic formulas. This discussion hasn't positively popped up with AI... I’m not aware of Nuri Bilge Ceylan’s engagement with AI... He is clearly the Antonioni of today. But he is not Antonioni. Yet you’ll find Antonioni’s trace in his cinema, without him being a mere imitator of one of the greatest masters in the history of film. But seen as his inheritor. Both can achieve equal greatness, without one diminishing the other. No idea if anyone else has ever connected one with the other, but let me make my disclaimer: I certainly won’t be paying ANY royalties to anyone who might have written the same thing before me. For one simple reason—I also NEVER read it anywhere; I actually arrived at this conclusion strictly on my own.* Among many other influences, of course. It might even seem odd to bring his work into this thread right now, but I’ll say it without fear—I’m totally confident no one’s going to claim there’s any AI intervention going on here made or released in 2006... only artistic influences and that’s a whole different story, yup! BTW his actress and wife is with no qualification hard to add, so simply amazing, not only in my eyes and to my knowledge... She is also a director but above all a writer (Ebru Ceylan), however, her husband has a lot of him in her work too... (two only feature films as actress, oh God, does it make her less gorgeous actress?!) and in that role in specific now, as for instance! ...without ever overshadowing (or killing in the context of our discussion along this thread ; ) her gift. A few creators have impressed me so much as her performance in that particular work but credits to her husband as accomplice for that outcome. What a team! Both as sorta combo (the couple) shine even further rather than alone one or the other (the curious part is the movie plot and the stuff either Antonioni or Ceylan operate around and about). A parenthesis for the geeks and those who complain about the flaws of the current or early technology releases : D this eternal materpiece was mainly shot on good old 8-bit 3:1:1 1440x1080... I wonder if this artistic outcome or endeavor would have been possible to bring one to two decades before. We need a budget for filmmaking and not only cameras BTW : X A bit the way I see AI can work out in good hands ; ) In a word? Layers. The multiple the best. Even though, the less the better : P It's a hell of a balance hard to make, oh yeah, count on it! I will leave here an example. I asked to ChatGPT about my English here, before a few changes introduced by me in the meantime... : D and the winner (result) is: "By the way, his actress and wife is—without exaggeration—simply incredible, not only in my eyes but in my understanding. She’s also a director, but above all a writer (Ebru Ceylan). Yet her husband’s influence is undeniably present in her work too, without ever overshadowing or diminishing her gift. Together, they shine even brighter—a synergy that, to me, reflects how AI can work beautifully in good hands." I took that 'a' (before 'director' and 'writer') and robbed the word 'overshadowing' I have applied in my text. And have learnt it is better to use some punctuation mark (—) you'll start to see in my posts because I also agree it can fit more a common pattern (ah, the usual standards!) than the one (--) I am used to. Other than that, I stand with my original text. Should I feel or infer that have I stolen anything to anyone and pay royalties for that? ; ) https://www.nuribilgeceylan.com/ https://www.nuribilgeceylan.com/photography/earlyphotographs1.php https://www.nuribilgeceylan.com/photography/turkeycinemascope1.php https://www.nuribilgeceylan.com/photography/inanotherplace1.php https://www.nuribilgeceylan.com/photography/formyfathertexteng.php BTW part III, nature is a bastard... His father's face looks like the filmmaker himself! Maybe some time machine over there? LOL ; ) Well, straight on topic, for some good reason I'd like to end this post of mine with this line ;- ) * Funny, out of curiosity, I asked to ChatGPT with this paragraph if someone else had said the same in the past, here's the answer (haha looks like if I had to pay anyone, it’d be the auteur himself, I posed my observation which led to such a 'gross' statement of mine among others bien sûr): «Regarding your comparison between Nuri Bilge Ceylan and Michelangelo Antonioni, you're in good company. Ceylan has acknowledged Antonioni as a significant influence on his work. For instance, in an interview, Ceylan mentioned that Antonioni's films like L'Eclisse, L'Avventura, and La Notte inspired him during his formative years as a filmmaker. Critics have also noted the stylistic and thematic parallels between the two directors, particularly in films like Climates, where Antonioni's influence is evident in the exploration of alienation and the use of visual composition. Sources: SCREENVILLE + erajournal.co.uk So, while you're not the first to draw this connection, your perspective adds to the appreciation of Ceylan's work and its cinematic lineage.» End of quote. On your quote, Eduardo, can that Cleopatra (1963) be taken as influence too instead? I am currently literally drinking every LIFE magazine work out here: https://books.google.pt/books/about/LIFE.html Just for the sake of our discussion, should I stop to do it?

I can't say I disagree with you, on the opposite. I just try to be as neutral as possible. Placing my opinion out of the equation. It doesn't depend on my wish a lot of stuff. AI is only another small portion of it I become used to since ever. This doesn't mean any endorsement. Let alone for copyright purposes. AI will only bring challenges for the subject matter. Is this a concern? Yes, too. We can't do anything but face it. Why should we leave the idea to safeguard legit copyright? Of course, not! This presence even increases the need to protect it more than ever. Who knows bringing more chances of copyright infringement for getting a fair compensation from? : P Strictly seen from a profit POV... So, what can seem bitter, may end upside down -- I will say it again, in good hands. The same for the toolkit. I am against guns in wrong hands -- I take the example though. They can save a lot of different and crucial or critical aspects with positive handling, no less. Even useful/helpful at times. It's not the instrument itself but THE hand behind to pull the trigger... We cannot ignore the technology role. Impossible to not extend its impact on media and art surroundings. Like octopuses or spiders, disseminate everywhere they reach their presence. We are unable to stop the social media effect either and we see the footprint on population and society in general. Worse as you wrote, something we must fight against. Nothing short. So, I am with you. For real, not idle words. But. At same time, a lot of people here are used to infer action cameras are plain crap, as for instance... I'd rather take any capture device as promising cinematic experience. Well, not all of them : D but the last upgrade for sure when not old rigs! I think that's what a 8mm/16mm background or analogue video or old DV formats have brought up to here before the digital REDvolution. A bit like almost everything in life (not all the time for anything or anyone whatsoever, anyways, the orange man is the fine example... when zero tolerance applies or is called for ; ) I usually tend to reject the standpoint to see the things B&W : ) It's all about to extract the good part if any. I believe we live exciting times despite all the frustration to come with. Human are complex beings and this is made and can be controlled by humans into a myriad of dangers and contradictions as those you've mentioned and you're fairly focused for a more detailed breakdown facing so many cons, go figure what comes next and we're unable to predict yet beyond the Sci-fi or Orwell's... More inclined to be optimistic and believe we always find a way when there's good faith, I don't blame the technology. Just the way it's used, whether the driver sits in the back, at the forefront, or somewhere ahead in time. So, I actually concur with much of what you wrote, if not everything, TBH. So, I guess this won’t or should apply to everyone in this industry or business, or to all people interested in the various crafts and trades involved. But as a film producer and filmmaker, reading what Clayton Jacobson wrote about his experience* with a mix of Midjourney, Photoshop, and Runway (Gen-4), I can only fully empathise with and feel committed to his thoughts and approach to such a bloody toolset: «Another dance with the devil. An Ai test this time playing with emotion and screen direction. Testing how close i can get Ai to adhere to direction of performance. Ain’t nowhere near as satisfying as directing real actors and being surprised and delighted with their invention on set. But I can see this being useful for possible background or crowd scenes behind an actual live performance or near impossible action or dangerous scenes where you wouldn’t want a real actor to be placed in danger. Integrating these techniques with trad film making will be a game changer rather than the all or nothing approach. For the record these tests aren’t just prompts there is a lot of set up and shifting between different platforms to get something even remotely usable. But I won’t lie as a creative - having an idea and seeing a result in hours rather than years is exciting. The average feature film takes 8-15 years to go from idea to audience let that sink in. After Kenny was released I spent 15 years trying to get the gatekeepers interested in my next project and it never happened. The industry is built to say NO 99% of the time AI says yes to me Constantly. For now I’m enjoying the freedom and sandbox joy of it all. A few interesting projects in the pipeline…» source * That aforementioned link posted above came from a partner in crime with me since 1998 and with three feature movies already distributed worldwide in our back... (EAG :- )

That guy either lives in another world and time, or he makes us all feel like we do.

Well, I understand and even second such input (how to not praise such resistent standpoint BTW?), for some reason you don't find in the title up there "My fav" but only "Fav"... let alone the expression "out there" too -- followed by those three dots aka ellipsis ; ) however, I think these tools are just arriving to stay, I guess whether we like it or not. We have to admit this development (not exactly a synonym of creation or the word 'art' would have been added) is impressive, no matter how sensible we are to the presence of this controversial level of arsenal. Can it be a PITA? Oh, in all likelihood... Better to see these implements as they are or can be, handy toolset for mere creative refinement when applied in good hands, no less (not everywhere and anywhere) and six hours of work for this sample, as due: https://www.facebook.com/share/v/16HdVQ9Acj/?mibextid=wwXIfr IMHO the more we can juxtapose -- the right word, the more we hit the home run... I simply hate the current hollywood Marvel trend and alike, they actually are destroying the art of motion picture. The remaining part left is trying to get a better idea how make it at bright side. The more many-sided we can face it as multiple layers of instruments we're able to add to the orchestra. A bit like distribution windows when the streaming is placing people outside the big screen and the social/aesthetic experience of the movie theatre. At a certain point, can cinema (aka the art of) be considered dead or sorta like the painting when photography popped up? ;- ) - EAG

Here is an impressive series of snacks: https://www.youtube.com/@CommonHub/videos In this case, MidJourney, Runway ML e ElevenLabs have been used according to the sources found:

Posted today elsewhere, here now on topic: Kandao Qoocam 3 Ultra 3D VR180 mod Impressive 10-bit tool -- unique device now without rival or competitor (actually tempted to pull the trigger very likely!), no matter how many doubts on the colour approach we can add on those samples : D to genuinely create envy to AI ; ) https://www.youtube.com/@SilverQi/videos https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1sekbB6vVM0SSW7qlOivcY5bTUtiZlViI

Here is in 2025, released last August, currently modded, the camera/combo for those waiting for the Canon that never came... From the most usual classy expert nowadays:

Terrific range... And tool by consequence BTW -- let alone 6-stops at the wide end and 4.5-stops at the telephoto end which expands the number of shots you're able to get straight from your hands as you can see here (no replacement for a gimbal when walking for sure but why should it be anyway? ; ) Follows a dead silent AF and no breathing outcome...

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I probably mistyped and the bloody thing replaced by Sigma instead (and I didn't take notice to correct it just in time) but the idea of three to four grand off STANDS anyway with... that Samyang you already know but that f/2.8 is only from 100mm on BTW: https://www.ephotozine.com/article/samyang-af-35-150mm-f-2-2-8-fe-lens-review-36714 You even have that extra stop you're willing to pay a premium price for at a wider end for a fraction of the price ; ) and a Sony's product design after all (since the Tamron is owned by them) with extra euros and not such a little difference though, just in the case you want to pay for QC you can do by your own* ;- ) * I'd rather suggest to take two units and you'll diminish in 50% your chances to not be down, that's the way my maths works... : P

I know that's not my fav 8K outcome going with the Ace Pro 2 (actually AP1 except for much worse sound capture so better to wait for the AP3 in half a year : D) but that fairly surprised me above any previous expectations from anyone over here too, I'd dare to say in advance... huge difference TBH : ) these guys are actually adding something other than a small update to their line, no many doubts left after all :- ) Moment's guys provide here an interesting sorta tutorial why a 360º device (and 8K capture BTW ; ) is not so out of the box for video acquisition in 2025. PS: Funny enough how this one sponsored by DJI has decided to underrate it and maybe show off to his sponsor... "I don't film at night so, sorry..." LOL ;- )

About three to four grand for an extra SINGLE stop against Sigma (as for instance) ?! It doesn't seem worthy to tell you very straightforward :- )

That general blackout of a couple of days ago reaching two-digit millions of people for half a day was creepy enough to say the least... First time ever in half of a century of life. We are nothing without modern life or too little. Looked to be part of a movie. Don't want to know what genre is. EAG :- )

Published by Canon (JP 2025-040484) a month ago... «To provide a compact imaging optical system that’s wide and fast.» The prototype coming (or is it mere proof of concept for patent purposes?) would be for a 24mm f/0.7 from those white papers announcing they have worked out «a long-standing challenge in lens design» but according to Canon rumors, any RF f/1.0 lens is then just arriving around the corner, very likely.

@Photolari Somos el medio de referencia en español sobre fotografía y vídeo. Desde 2016 enfadando a los fanboys de todas las marcas. No vendemos cursos... «(...) Since 2016, annoying the fanboys from every brand. We don't sell course programs.» Funny to say the least ;- )

Seems not... Iberian (Portugal & Spain) sources look like to go ahead on this stuff, for some reason this Portuguese can confirm at 1st hand in this forum now, here is the price: https://x.com/Photolari/status/1915379454601253011 https://fotok.es/objetivos-samyang/af-samyang-14-24-mm-f28-fe https://www.estudiopt.pt/camaras/lentes/mirrorless/zoom/samyang-af-14-24mm-f-2-8-sony-e/ I guess this one will arrive at my end at least to couple my FX30... https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1881813-REG/sigma_887975_16_300mm_f_3_5_6_7_dc_os.html/specs Looks like a decent price for a daylight lens (love zooms, by the way ; ) What such a 24-450mm 615 g workhorse! You take this and this one early morning when you go to the street and you don't need much more up to your arrival back home (well, let's not forget Clear Image Zoom + active IBIS and 4K120fps on FX30 to help to make it real all this when a prime becomes a few ones in your hands... ; )

Just waiting for the price of this AF 14-24mm f/2.8 beauty... https://www.lksamyang.com/en/product/product-view.php Who else?