Andrew Reid

$3000, another choice, another 'film stock' to use for the scenes that suit the look. It is great to see. The sensor size isn't as important as getting rid of all the dodgy compression, mud, aliasing, moire, 8 bit colour, 4:2:0, steep highlight roll off, banding, lack of detail, weak dynamic range and smudgy un-film-like noise you get in Canon DSLR footage. I see none of that being a problem on the Blackmagic Cinema Camera judging from John's footage which is about as honest as the camera. The BMD is needed to bust the myth of the Canon DSLRs being 'the best' for digital cinema under $3k, just because a few celebrity shooters have done great things with them. It really is looking like a $3000 digital film camera. When I shoot with mine, I may be proved wrong or disappointed so only then will I know for sure so it makes sense to hold off in terms of final judgement, but I am predicting I will like it. By the way if what I know about the GH3 is correct we are in for a treat.

[quote name='tony wilson' timestamp='1344313338' post='15036'] captains log star date july into august 2012. for a while now some of the crew been distracted by mindless moronic sports events. the federation love promoting sports they think it keeps the scum from riot,rape and my favourite murder. i william tiberius shatner kirk have bigger fish to fry. 1.does spock still love me is the relationship getting stale. 2.is he still turned on by my 20 pack abs 3. is scottie really scottish 4.who can dance the macarena better captain kirk or the french scum bald captain prickhard. i get a sense a feeling in my tight nylon space pants that we are getting close to another big war. question for the log. what will come first ww3 or bmc giving the prototype to another tester. [/quote] Kirk: "Captain! We're approaching the war with $15,000 phaser guns which are obsolete. Our red $20,000 warp drives with $1500 SSD drives are also outgunned!.... Incoming Blackmagic mothership!!!" Canon Picard: "Beam me up scotty!!"

[quote name='John Brawley' timestamp='1344323916' post='15044'] The camera has a native or natural ISO of 800. Although it has lower ISO settings and you do get a slight improvement on noise in blacks, you're basically trading highlights in for a lower ISO. So shooting at ISO800 gives the MOST amount of DR when shooting in ProRes. As far as the noise.... I've said this before. The camera doesn't do any in-camera noise reduction or image processing, even when shooting ProRes. That means the images are very honest and you get everything. Including noise that IS there with other cameras, but is usually masked by processes beyond your direct control as a user. jb [/quote] Thanks for that John. I don't mind film grain, the noise has a nice fine texture to it. I think some of the blacks would have been better off crushed a little bit in the grade to hide some of the more honest parts of the image :) It is good to see an honest image that gives a lot of options to work with in post and that is what we want as test footage. Thanks for uploading. PS to those who can't download, you need to be a Vimeo Plus member.

[quote name='Chris Santucci' timestamp='1344336105' post='15047'] $3,000. + SSD = ? [/quote] $3,240. (240GB) Does that answer your question?

All shot in full resolution mode. The phone can do an internal downsample to improve low light, giving 8MP, 5MP or 3MP images instead. But this is exactly the same as resizing a 38MP still to 8MP, 5MP or 3MP yourself in Photoshop. Better results to be had in post from the full files, rather than restricting it at the time of shooting to a lower res.

[media]http://vimeo.com/47013561[/media] New Blackmagic Cinema Camera footage is in the wild, and this one is downloadable in glorious high bitrate 1080p. Although it isn't the original DNG or ProRes rushes it is the closest we've come to a representative video yet. http://www.eoshd.com/content/8703/most-significant-clue-so-far-about-blackmagic-cinema-camera-performance

Why would anyone want to shoot with a phone over a DSLR for video in low light? They're both rubbish in that regard. It isn't much of an appeal. The stills are though. For me even though the iPhone does really nice resolution and bitrates with Filmic Pro, it is still just a curiosity feature. Given $700 it is a bit of a no brainer what camera to use for serious video, and it isn't a 808, an iPhone, or a Galaxy S3.

Um. You're missing the fact that the 4S has more detail in video mode and less compression.

[quote name='KarimNassar' timestamp='1344028553' post='14937'] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]I think we must not forget that it was not made for us it's a consumer camera.[/font][/color] [/quote] You will be surprised Karim ;)

That isn't typical, sorry to hear that. Looks like you may have a faulty unit.

Tried the CameraPro app and I don't think it is worth even $3. It crashes when entering expert mode settings, and it doesn't do anything in stills mode that the built in camera doesn't, apart from crash when you set the JPEG compression... And video quality seems the same too. Compression issues are the main thing that is wrong with video on the 808, so if Filmic Pro comes to the Nokia store (unlikely) then it could be great.

[quote name='sanveer' timestamp='1344051639' post='14942']Does Filmic Pro increase the bit rate, as well as improve the video quality, on the iphone? [/quote] Yes and yes.

[quote name='Policar' timestamp='1344018593' post='14933'] A test with two 28mm lenses is ridiculous; the FOV for the 5D would be much, much wider. A modern point and shoot with a 28mm lens will outresolve any dSLR with a 28mm lens, but at a matched FOV it will be another story. The camera is still pretty impressive. [/quote] In the review it means 28mm equivalent, not 28mm focal length lenses on both cameras. It is 8mm on the Nokia. The field of view was matched.

[media]http://vimeo.com/46847636[/media] The best camera is the one you have with you and the best smartphone is an Apple iPhone. Unfortunately the camera on your iPhone just became very very obsolete. EOSHD deals with a dilemma.

It is the polarisation that changes when the ND is rotated, and it is a major problem even if you don't intend to rack focus. It will knock the consistency of your shots completely out. Everything with a different focus distance will have a different look. Your sky might be dark in one shot but not in the other and you might have reflections in one shot then do the same shot later at slightly different focus distance and have no reflections. It is a nightmare. You have to use an ND in a matte box if you are shooting with the Iscorama.

[url="http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/metabones2.jpg"][img]http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/metabones2.jpg[/img][/url] Metabones EOS E-Mount Mark II (left) and the Mark I (right) The newly updated Metabones EOS E-Mount adapter arrived at EOSHD HQ recently and it improves pretty significantly on the first generation adapter, which I'm using at the moment on the FS100 as the default lens mount.

[quote name='kitchentable' timestamp='1343848336' post='14795'] Got the same email from CVP and I'm comfortable with the delay. Well, I say delay but as a long time Red owner this doesn't really count as a delay. I've know Red's announcements about the latest delay update being delayed longer than this. [/quote] ... And all the laughable comments on RedUser about how the delay is the best news since the dawn of film?

Jeff, do feel free to come back in a few weeks and eat your words.

[quote name='jeffdeponte' timestamp='1343768767' post='14761'] Beware the Vaporware! [/quote] It isn't vaporising, the camera is even rolling off the production line as you type! Hardly vaporware.

[url="http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/blackmagiccinemacamera.jpg"][img]http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/blackmagiccinemacamera.jpg[/img][/url] Today I have an update from CVP in the UK regarding the Blackmagic Cinema Camera. The initial shipment is delayed 2 weeks and Blackmagic expect to deliver this to CVP in the 2nd week of August. The good news is that the camera firmware has gone gold and units are under production at the factory as of now.

[media]http://vimeo.com/46540179[/media] Above: [url="https://vimeo.com/46540179"]Säure trailer on Vimeo by Andrew Reid[/url] [url="http://www.theater-im-kino.de/TIK-Theater%20im%20Kino-Berlin/Programm/Theaterstuecke/Saeure.htm"]Book tickets to see Säure here[/url] I was cinematographer recently on a trailer for Berlin theatre production Säure (which translates as 'Acid').

Not the individual MTS, you have to have the whole folder structure intact and open that in Quicktime with a double click.

The Thamber and foggy Leica are actually quite interesting. What is the spot filter?

Some of my favourite shots I have shot at F5.6 on an anamorphic. Knocking back a distracting background is important, but it doesn't need to be creamed out entirely, that is just boring. In my opinion a backdrop should be like a painting, where you can see the brush strokes and texture but it doesn't distract from the main subject. Excessive shallow DOF has been used and abused too often for my liking!

I do recognise that chair moire to human vision issue, seen it many times with my own eyes. I think the furniture needed moving around before he shot it :) Natural moire or camera moire? I suspect natural as there are a lot of other fine details, fabric, hair, pool cloth for example and zero moire or false detail there. The footage - when I play in Chrome to get around a strange compression issue with Vimeo - looks absolutely fantastic on my Epson theatre projector and Dell U2711 2.5K screen. And it isn't even the full 2.5K raw but ProRes. Camera is shaping up great. In my opinion - the REAL advantage of a full frame sensor = more dynamic range. Not unmanageable shallow focus. This thing has heaps of dynamic range so the sensor size doesn't concern me in the least.