Andrew Reid

[quote name='hoodlum' timestamp='1344518186' post='15199'] Sony seems to be the only one willing to cannibalize their own products. Every other camera manufacturer tries to project their higher margin products. The RX100 is another example where Sony put all of the latest processing technology and manual controls in a 1" sensor compact camera. It even has the same menu as the Alpha line. I wish others would do the same. [/quote] Too right. All the market segmentation is crappy, just let the individual products stand up on their own and let them be the best they can possibly be given the technology for the price.

[quote name='Germy1979' timestamp='1344514093' post='15195']"They are stills cameras @sshole!!!!" - already, lol.[/quote] Yeah, that got old a long time ago didn't it? Round about the time anyone with a clue started offering video production as well as just photography.

[quote name='Samuel H' timestamp='1344510187' post='15189'] I wouldn't be THAT optimistic. "We wanted to put real great PRO video into this camera" and "we added a continuous LED light on top of it" are somewhat difficult to mix together. I'd bet they've put more effort into AF than in using a great codec. As usual, wait and see... [/quote] Just the focus of the product planner on video is enough to make it better than the current stuff. It will be first time any DSLR has been optimised for video performance. All the Canon video modes are a hack. And the GH2 is a good attempt but weak sensor relative to full frame.

The price that has been rumoured so far has been in $2500 range. Please bear in mind what a properly video optimised full frame sensor is capable of. We're talking massive amounts of dynamic range, incredible low light, full frame depth of field and much better colour than any of the sensors with smaller pixels. People have a common misconception that we have that already with the 5D Mark III and D800. You don't at all. You have 1/10th of that it could be. Because they are optimised for stills not video.

Haha nice analogy. Well the Alpha mount is not the most adaptable, certainly true. Expensive depends on what is in the box though really, and I think it will be explosive. Not literally I hope! GH3 and A99 have major possibility of providing far better image quality and all-round usability / featureset than any of the current favourites, be it FS100, Blackmagic Cinema Camera or 5D. Some on Twitter have been underestimating the significance of product planning too. They say it is just a rumour and proof is in the pudding. But for me the pudding is mostly in the cooking and the 5D Mark III was cooked up for photography not video. The chef in this instance is a videographer. That news alone is enough to have me very excited for the A99.

[url="http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/sony-a900-a99-full-frame.jpg"][img]http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/sony-a900-a99-full-frame.jpg[/img][/url] [i]Above: Sony's previous foray into full frame, the A900[/i] With Canon this year failing to capitalise in my view, on their huge gains in the video market following the successful 5D Mark II, I have long wondered when one of the big 3 would get it right and give us what we need - a full frame DSLR with equal emphasis on pro video and stills. My friend Sony Alpha Rumors, a blog so often the recipient of genuine information rates this news highly because it is from multiple trusted top sources and I myself have heard whispers of Sony's approach which match, so I don't doubt it. Professional filmmakers and videographers were involved in the planning stages of the camera for 2 years. The A99 strategy is one of convergence and not only will the camera have the best possible video image quality but Sony are building a video infrastructure around the product to support it. These developments are incredibly significant... http://www.eoshd.com/content/8709/top-sources-say-sony-developing-full-frame-a99-as-hybrid-gh2-like-dslr-targeting-professional-filmmakers

[quote name='jgharding' timestamp='1344425319' post='15132']Just as with microphones, where the physical size of the diaphragm simply is a contributing factor to the sound no matter what other tech is strapped around it, it seems the same is true of the image-capture area: you can't fake the physical reality of the size of that part however hard you try. Will there ever be a way to make photo-diodes behave more like film? Some kind of pseudo-lightfield microlens technology but used for traditional capture not gimmicky post DOF control? to broaden their angle of absorption and the spread of light in an organic way? Am I being intuitive here, or absurd? [/quote] I think a lot of the feel of video is the fault of the display technology rather than the actual camera side. I think the sensors we have today are all very closely matched and there's no reason, lens aside, that a smaller micro four thirds or BMD sensor cannot look as cinematic as a one in a camera that is considered 'soft, organic and film-like' like the 5D or C300. Certainly upping the bitrate doesn't make for a less cinematic image or a more electronic video feel. What I believe is happening here is that sharp and detailed images are done a disservice by laptop screens, LCD monitors, even some high end TVs and projectors because they are too clinical, too punchy and too vibrant. The fact that the modern lenses are also this way, conspires against the sensor and yet we too often blame the camera for giving us a 'video-like' image! Certainly there are some cameras that are more cinematic than others but the bigger varying factors are almost certainly in the display side of things, and the lensing. Remember the film guys even accuse the Alexa and F65 of looking 'too digital', and we know that is not the case. Lots of beautiful organic and soft cinema out there shot on the 5D and GH2 let alone the Alexa. It is all about hiding the digital nature of an image with the right projection format and the right lenses. As a DP at least you can fix one of those, the other you unfortunately don't have as much control of!

The camera in handheld twilight mode is completely insane in low light. Layering 6 shots together is done so intelligently that even if you have moving crowds and traffic in the shot you don't get ghosting, just amplified signal to noise ratio and cleaner images. These were shot handheld(!!) in extremely dark areas of Berlin in the middle of the night. Shutter was as low as 1/8 in some cases, and I was still getting pin sharp images with no tripod. In fact the images look like long exposures on a tripod, because before the RX100 that was the only way you'd be able to get shots like this, frankly. [url="http://www.eoshd.com/comments/gallery/image/68-dsc00810/"]http://www.eoshd.com...ge/68-dsc00810/[/url] DSC00810 Album: Sony RX100 Handheld Twilight Shots Uploaded 08 Aug 2012 - 07:55

Forget the hack, you are no longer going to need it. Cannot say any more. Photokina... I will be there!!

$3000, another choice, another 'film stock' to use for the scenes that suit the look. It is great to see. The sensor size isn't as important as getting rid of all the dodgy compression, mud, aliasing, moire, 8 bit colour, 4:2:0, steep highlight roll off, banding, lack of detail, weak dynamic range and smudgy un-film-like noise you get in Canon DSLR footage. I see none of that being a problem on the Blackmagic Cinema Camera judging from John's footage which is about as honest as the camera. The BMD is needed to bust the myth of the Canon DSLRs being 'the best' for digital cinema under $3k, just because a few celebrity shooters have done great things with them. It really is looking like a $3000 digital film camera. When I shoot with mine, I may be proved wrong or disappointed so only then will I know for sure so it makes sense to hold off in terms of final judgement, but I am predicting I will like it. By the way if what I know about the GH3 is correct we are in for a treat.

[quote name='tony wilson' timestamp='1344313338' post='15036'] captains log star date july into august 2012. for a while now some of the crew been distracted by mindless moronic sports events. the federation love promoting sports they think it keeps the scum from riot,rape and my favourite murder. i william tiberius shatner kirk have bigger fish to fry. 1.does spock still love me is the relationship getting stale. 2.is he still turned on by my 20 pack abs 3. is scottie really scottish 4.who can dance the macarena better captain kirk or the french scum bald captain prickhard. i get a sense a feeling in my tight nylon space pants that we are getting close to another big war. question for the log. what will come first ww3 or bmc giving the prototype to another tester. [/quote] Kirk: "Captain! We're approaching the war with $15,000 phaser guns which are obsolete. Our red $20,000 warp drives with $1500 SSD drives are also outgunned!.... Incoming Blackmagic mothership!!!" Canon Picard: "Beam me up scotty!!"

[quote name='John Brawley' timestamp='1344323916' post='15044'] The camera has a native or natural ISO of 800. Although it has lower ISO settings and you do get a slight improvement on noise in blacks, you're basically trading highlights in for a lower ISO. So shooting at ISO800 gives the MOST amount of DR when shooting in ProRes. As far as the noise.... I've said this before. The camera doesn't do any in-camera noise reduction or image processing, even when shooting ProRes. That means the images are very honest and you get everything. Including noise that IS there with other cameras, but is usually masked by processes beyond your direct control as a user. jb [/quote] Thanks for that John. I don't mind film grain, the noise has a nice fine texture to it. I think some of the blacks would have been better off crushed a little bit in the grade to hide some of the more honest parts of the image :) It is good to see an honest image that gives a lot of options to work with in post and that is what we want as test footage. Thanks for uploading. PS to those who can't download, you need to be a Vimeo Plus member.

[quote name='Chris Santucci' timestamp='1344336105' post='15047'] $3,000. + SSD = ? [/quote] $3,240. (240GB) Does that answer your question?

All shot in full resolution mode. The phone can do an internal downsample to improve low light, giving 8MP, 5MP or 3MP images instead. But this is exactly the same as resizing a 38MP still to 8MP, 5MP or 3MP yourself in Photoshop. Better results to be had in post from the full files, rather than restricting it at the time of shooting to a lower res.

[media]http://vimeo.com/47013561[/media] New Blackmagic Cinema Camera footage is in the wild, and this one is downloadable in glorious high bitrate 1080p. Although it isn't the original DNG or ProRes rushes it is the closest we've come to a representative video yet. http://www.eoshd.com/content/8703/most-significant-clue-so-far-about-blackmagic-cinema-camera-performance

Why would anyone want to shoot with a phone over a DSLR for video in low light? They're both rubbish in that regard. It isn't much of an appeal. The stills are though. For me even though the iPhone does really nice resolution and bitrates with Filmic Pro, it is still just a curiosity feature. Given $700 it is a bit of a no brainer what camera to use for serious video, and it isn't a 808, an iPhone, or a Galaxy S3.

Um. You're missing the fact that the 4S has more detail in video mode and less compression.

[quote name='KarimNassar' timestamp='1344028553' post='14937'] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]I think we must not forget that it was not made for us it's a consumer camera.[/font][/color] [/quote] You will be surprised Karim ;)

That isn't typical, sorry to hear that. Looks like you may have a faulty unit.

Tried the CameraPro app and I don't think it is worth even $3. It crashes when entering expert mode settings, and it doesn't do anything in stills mode that the built in camera doesn't, apart from crash when you set the JPEG compression... And video quality seems the same too. Compression issues are the main thing that is wrong with video on the 808, so if Filmic Pro comes to the Nokia store (unlikely) then it could be great.

[quote name='sanveer' timestamp='1344051639' post='14942']Does Filmic Pro increase the bit rate, as well as improve the video quality, on the iphone? [/quote] Yes and yes.

[quote name='Policar' timestamp='1344018593' post='14933'] A test with two 28mm lenses is ridiculous; the FOV for the 5D would be much, much wider. A modern point and shoot with a 28mm lens will outresolve any dSLR with a 28mm lens, but at a matched FOV it will be another story. The camera is still pretty impressive. [/quote] In the review it means 28mm equivalent, not 28mm focal length lenses on both cameras. It is 8mm on the Nokia. The field of view was matched.

[media]http://vimeo.com/46847636[/media] The best camera is the one you have with you and the best smartphone is an Apple iPhone. Unfortunately the camera on your iPhone just became very very obsolete. EOSHD deals with a dilemma.

It is the polarisation that changes when the ND is rotated, and it is a major problem even if you don't intend to rack focus. It will knock the consistency of your shots completely out. Everything with a different focus distance will have a different look. Your sky might be dark in one shot but not in the other and you might have reflections in one shot then do the same shot later at slightly different focus distance and have no reflections. It is a nightmare. You have to use an ND in a matte box if you are shooting with the Iscorama.

[url="http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/metabones2.jpg"][img]http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/metabones2.jpg[/img][/url] Metabones EOS E-Mount Mark II (left) and the Mark I (right) The newly updated Metabones EOS E-Mount adapter arrived at EOSHD HQ recently and it improves pretty significantly on the first generation adapter, which I'm using at the moment on the FS100 as the default lens mount.