Andrew Reid

I can open and edit raw files on the CM1 now. App called Raw Droid enables it. Wonder why Panasonic didn't. Their image editor when launched from Raw Droid now works on the raw files. Grading raw right there on my phone. CM1 suddenly became a lot more attractive :)

Have you downloaded the ungraded files Matt?

  Why the f*** are you here then? :)

Although I've already given my score for the Panasonic CM1 I feel this is such a difficult camera to review it needs to be returned to. So for the past few days I've been using the CM1 as my main phone and have forced myself to get used to Android. I have to say that the charms are starting to grow on me, the frustrations from earlier have been fixed and I'm starting to have a lot more fun with it. I still don't think it's as good a smartphone as the iPhone and the camera isn't as cleverly implemented in some ways - but let's revisit the review and put some more user experiences down on the page. Read the full article here

If the T2i or T-rex from whatever era still floats your boat then fine. Nothing wrong with that. Some like the low-fi look! Sometimes so do I! But if the low-fi look was all we had... it would be very creatively limiting. No insane high ISO shoots like with the A7S which look so beautiful without requiring an Arri truck full of lights and a crew. No creative re-framing in post from 4K. No colour correction fun with raw (Canon still haven't officially ratified Magic Lantern's genius on that one). No stealth shooting bare bones with a built in EVF rather than a clunky loupe. No 120fps slow mo and no crisp details like we've enjoyed ever since the GH2 gave us proper 1080p and not line-skipped mush.   Creativity through technological innovation is a beautiful thing. DJI Inspire One - beautiful innovation. Blackmagic DaVinci Resolve - beautiful. Sony 12MP on a full frame sensor - incredible. Canon - just plain fucking boring. Good job there are some creative filmmakers around making so-so equipment look good purely through excellent story telling and lighting. But I want more than this. I want the technology to make new stuff possible that wasn't before. I want to tell a story with moon light or candle light. I want to tell a story with sequences at 120fps. I want to add drama and visual appeal. I just cannot do that with a Canon DSLR in the same way I can on other cameras for the same price.

It has 4:2:2 out. 4096 x 2160 as well.

If you want a flatter grade then the settings I just posted above plus Film Convert BMCC 2.5K Film gamma as Source Camera and Fj Velvia 100 as the film stock looks lovely! Clean ISO 3200!! Nice silky blacks!  

-35 contrast in the converter app (Wondershare) and "Retro" profile on -8 contrast are providing some interesting results in low light at ISO 1600 and 3200. Really moves the blacks away from the danger zone, but doesn't hurt highlights.

Here's how flat I can dial the NX1 using the custom picture profile. Pretty flat!   Plenty of info in the blacks there and not too noisy at ISO 1600 if you have a decent exposure like the one shown. If you don't then it does get very crushed and noisy down there.  

Brand loyalty is a severe blindness in our society. I see it with Mac vs PC, iPhone vs Android and with Canon vs Lumix. The article is on the side of enthusiasts and anyone around $1000-$3000 who want to see better stuff from the market leader Canon.   Yet still some people will battle against their own interests, because of their chosen life-parnter, the logo.

There's a lot more in the blacks than my grade served up. The quality of the image in the blacks isn't as good as say ProRes on a Blackmagic so yes that does limit dynamic range if you have to bring the lows into the mids with a brighter exposure, thus risking blowing your highlights out. However a lot depends on the conversion software you use. Wondershare crushes the blacks on default. I can make it produce a very flat image, but that hurts colour... a lot more to come on the workflow I think. It's a shame the Samsung software isn't better.

Indeed. What's interesting is that none of the defensive posters are actually enthusiasts. One owns an Epic and one's simply just an idiot with a keyboard instead of a camera. The problem with Canon is not the pro $12,000 stuff it is the enthusiast $1k-3k cameras that aren't giving us the innovation we want on the video side. Nobody can defend it, not even Canon themselves. Which is why they are so quiet about it.

Actually most people who came initially to the site were interested in my Panasonic GH2 coverage. You have just reinforced your ignorance in the eyes of the entire forum. Congrats! Anyway... if the posts from now on contain a more constructive form of negativity, it'd make my day.

Which makes you perfect placed to comment on the enthusiast subject at hand. I've shot with the 1D C. Type EOSHD 1D C review into Google when you have a spare moment. Really? A7S not better in low light? Hmm. No I think you'll find the ergonomics suck as well. Perhaps the most unintuitive camera for video I've ever shot with. Does your Epic have AF? Thought not. There's a reason for that. You have your facts wrong. ALL the Canon, Tamron and Sigma lenses have f-stop control and IS via the Metabones adapter to Sony E-mount.   I have seen the A7S's 4K projected at Pinewood Studios. I can tell you what it looks like. It looks superb and it is full frame 4K not 1.3x crop on a 2 year old sensor aka 1D C.

I wouldn't bother, just get a Panasonic LX100 :)

  Key word is "overall". Some facts my friend...   Sony A7S with a monitor on top kills the 1D C stone dead for image quality. 1D C is not full frame 4K. The active imaging area is barely any larger than Super 35mm in 4K mode, thus NX1 and GH4 with Speed Booster give a similar rendering of Canon full frame lenses The codec is from another time, when dinosaurs ruled the earth. 4K MJPEG takes up 6 times the space on my drive that H.265 4K does. Monitoring on the 1D C bare bones is a nightmare. No EVF, no peaking, in fact virtually nothing to help you focus The GH4 and NX1 can be used bare bones without a monitor, far more pleasing to shoot with The 1D C is $12,000... how many times do I have to mention ENTHUSIAST MARKET for you to get the point of the article? The 1D C's codec has banding issues at low ISOs The 1D C's sensor is rated barely 12 stops, the GH4 for 13 stops and the A7S for 14. So in that sense the raw stills aren't the best either   Like I said... Sony A7S with Shogun on top or 1D C with monitor on top just so you can focus... It's a no brainer. Image, usability, size, portability... everything is better on the Sony.

If Canon announced that they were withdrawing from the enthusiast stills camera market, you'd be surprised. It's a pretty big market. But withdraw from the enthusiast video market they almost certainly have at the moment, whether they meant to do or not. Read the full article here

  Why? Can't see the word 'DSLR' in it and E stands for electrical, O for optical and S for system. Sounds pretty relevant to me.

I can't manually focus any of my lenses through the optical viewfinder of a DSLR.   I need an EVF for that.   I just switched from the 5D Mark III for all my stills work to an X-T1 and not regretting it. They are dead.

The white balance isn't an issue when you're shooting raw. I can get that carousel right where I want it. Kinda nice to have in-camera raw editing before you upload to Facebook.

Part 2 looks just at the camera. Almost no mention of Android or iOS at all.   http://www.eoshd.com/2014/11/panasonic-cm1-review-returns-just-camera-time/   Coming next on EOSHD... Why WINDOWS SUCKS BALLS!

Although I found the CM1 mediocre as a 900 Euro smartphone compared to other high end smartphones like the OnePlus One and iPhone 6 Plus, I'll approach the CM1 purely as a compact camera that you can make calls on. This review has the focus on image quality and camera features. How does it perform? Read the full article here

  No Apple snobbery here at all.   If you look at a selection of high end Android phones (which by the way are half the price of the Panasonic) they're all outstanding as smartphones by comparison. Better screens, more responsive, better build quality, better music quality, much thinner and above all nicer to feel and to use.   There's some superb Android stuff out there... Samsung S5, OnePlus One, HTC One M8, all half the price and doubly better as smartphones than the CM1!   If you haven't tried the CM1 vs the other high end Android smartphones you're not best placed to comment.   My review would have been the same if you substitute the iPhone for a OnePlus One. It's not 'Apple snobbery' to make clear where one device is superior over another. It's called 'reviewing'.   It just so happens the iPhone 6 Plus is what I use so that's my frame of reference... yours may differ.

If you are getting crushed blacks, it could be a display calibration difference between my display and yours.   Even if I regrade it, it is gonna look wrong for someone.   I'll do a proper dynamic range test vs the GH4 and A7S.   I don't expect it to beat either of them but it beats the GH4 for colour and it beats the A7S for resolution with internal recording.

It's clear phone criticism goes right to people's hearts, and that's a sad reflection of how far we've stooped in this world today :)   I'm going to follow it up with a review just of the camera.   Think of it as a camera with a sim card :)