Andrew Reid

Can you please try installing Magic Lantern on that plane?

"Nothing but a bunch of shill-monkeys" ??? Who is this guy? He just got a new subscriber!! Love it.

How have you got internet in a plane?

My EOS R is open to a bit of experimentation! Read the full article (Summary: it works!)

LOL. OK let's refrain from personal attacks unless you are joking. I am not sure which way he bats when it comes to Sony vs Canon that's for sure. Is it just to whoever is being nicest to him via email at any given moment?

Glad we can get back on topic as that's the crux of it for me. Hand picking a squad of reviewers, vetting them first, excluding the ones like me who will not do a good marketing job if it has issues like rolling shutter, then populating everything they shoot with as much eye candy as possible, from palm trees to half naked women, before sending them home with a free camera, is borderline anti-FTC rules and creates an alternative universe online driven by money and bullshit, divorced from reality and facts. I also find that most of these most high profile YouTube 'stars' in the camera world are best buddies behind the scene, because they all meet regularly at events like these, so it is really hard for one of them to stand up from the group and say "hey, you idiot, this is wrong". Jordan would never criticise Caleb or Max or Kai. Caleb would never say boo to a goose. Kai is too busy trying to be Jeremy Clarkson. And Fro is too busy with his hair to even know what rolling shutter is!!

This is correct. The only thing that excuses a front-side illuminated 30ms slow CMOS in 2018 is if Canon is doing something special with the readout that slows it down, in order to improve colour or overall image quality. I just think they are using an old sensor technology to increase the yield at the factory and the profit margin on the shop floor.

Wow there is a lot of misunderstandings around this issue I see. Rolling shutter is not driven by shutter speed. It is 100% how fast the sensor can read out the image line by line, top to bottom of the frame. The shutter speed can be 1/100 or 1/1000 and the rolling shutter speed will be identical as will amount of distortion as the subject moves or the camera moves. The only difference is you will have less motion blur on the slower shutter speed shot.

Don't really see your point Dan. Conforming footage in post has nothing to do with the speed of the sensor.

Yes Canon 50mm F0.95 has mojo but that's another fragile, rare old lens and $3k. Always wanted one. I will wait until a miracle happens and I find it for £10 in a bucket. I also like the look of the EF 50mm F1.0 but again very expensive. That one is a heavy beast as well. And all wasted in 1.8x crop on the EOS R

Punk is dead!!

You wouldn't get this kind of rolling shutter at 60p. The very definition of 60p is that the rolling shutter is faster! Otherwise, you cannot do 60 frames per second

Sure there will, but how will they make it any good without fucking Cinema EOS sales? Or, if (like Sony) it turns out NOT to screw the Cinema sales why not just make the first one have competitive video already? Because they want to sell us an upgrade later, is the likely answer!!

Veery nice. Were those F1.1? Another fast lens to check out is the Minolta MD 58mm F1.2. I've never had anything for the price come as close to the look of the Leica Noctilux F1 as that lens. Here a shot I did in Berlin the other week, this was on medium format so cheating a bit Makes it look like an F0.95. Do you still have your MF speed booster? Great, will have a look!

yeah but this one is actually losing them $$$$$ They lost £3100 from me when I wanted to buy the 28-70mm F2.0 for 4K.

Got any shots from it? I can get one on Amazon for £340!

Well at least until the Panasonic S1 and S1R come out, but their Achilles heel is still likely going to be the AF - especially via an adapter to Canon EF. I really think the EOS R is going to please a lot of people... and upset an equal amount as well.... both perspectives are equally right depending on who you are and what you need from the camera. Correct, doesn't change the fact. However as time passes you expect constant improvement. Canon are infamous for refusing to give us that. They used the same sensor in some of the APS-C cameras for 7 years! Speaking purely in a technological sense, to give you an idea of how much slower Canon's sensor is, that 30ms is a readout of 2160 lines and 3840 columns. Whereas on the NX1 4 years ago, the readout is 3648 lines, 6480 columns!! Quite a bit more to read in one sweep. If that had a 1:1 crop mode of 3840 x 2160 instead of doing the full-width full-pixel readout at 6.4K, it would have far less jello than the EOS R. The A6300 again is doing a 6K readout so it's processing much more data than the EOS R in the same time it takes the EOS R to do 4K, it is doing 6K. So Canon have technological problems but actually they don't because the 1D X Mark II does 4K 60p and for that you need sub-17ms rolling shutter, so they have a sensor which is fast enough to avoid the worst rolling shutter issues on the market. It is also a problem in silent stills mode on the EOS R as well so not just a video limitation. So they caught up but won't give it us. How cynical is that!?

No need to get an EM5 II now the E-M10 III exists though. It's way better for video.

I wonder how many C200 users actually shoot raw. 1%?

To be fair, the rolling shutter is also pretty shit on the NX1 - but that is doing a 6K readout, no crop, and it's 4 years old!! If the EOS R were a laptop, it'd run DOS.

Only in theory. It's not implemented. 1.4x crop, 1:1 readout. Why have C-LOG in the EOS R but not in the 1D X Mark II? That is more than double the price. Makes no sense. That's pretty much what I said When you look at the kind of people who buy a C200 on the whole, Nino at Cinema5D maybe, who hates using DSLRs and mirrorless cameras. People who rent. People who have $7000 to spend and then some. Why would a mirrorless camera without XLR jacks even come close to that market. No it wouldn't. Look at Sony. Did FS5 and FS7 and F55 users all dump their cameras for an A7 III? The sales figures just don't show it.

Go to 5:52. Richard Butler literally does a jello hand-sweep in the background whilst Rishi contradicts him saying that the rolling shutter is improved. Then he says it might still be problematic for "some" people. Then they move on. That doesn't even count as a proper mention to me. It's just a weird aside in amidst a ton of positives. They keep highlighting positive after positive and Richard is relegated to the status of mime artist. They should have let Richard speak. He knows his stuff technically. Yes it is around 30ms. The GH5 and X-T3 are in the region of 14ms. So it is double the distortion you'll see. DOUBLE! Not 10%, not 20%, not slightly improved, but 100% more slant. Actually what 5.52 shows is that Chris and Jordan were aware of the rolling shutter problem BEFORE they did the full review video, yet chose not to mention it in the full review.... Why? They should literally do a follow-up video about the limitations to balance things out. Fro's video breaks the FTC rules on full disclosure. He doesn't even disclose that Canon paid for his travel and accommodation in Hawaii. He just vaguely puts it out there that he's talking from a Canon press event with palm trees in the background. "They invited a bunch of us out here".

Haha it's a valid question - who does the beta testing at Adobe? Do they have a public beta? Or is it all in-house. They are an appalling company.

I think it is probably the automated systems being overzealous. Fair use is pretty clear in copyright law, isn't it! It's not some airy fairy thing that doesn't really exist. If somebody wants to use a small section of a track in a video for the purposes of commentary it's fair use. Likewise, one of my EOSHD Shooter's Guides is copyright material, but if a YouTuber wanted to review it and put an example page up from it, that would also be fair use and I'd be stupid to take it down anyway because it's increasing sales.

Does it clip the blues as well?