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Nikon Z8 or Canon R5C to combine stills and video
eatstoomuchjam replied to kayasaman's topic in Cameras
What is your planned presentation/use for these photos? One of the not-so-secret secrets of wildlife photography is that the photos are rarely presented as-framed in camera. The D500 has 20 megapixels which gives you a bit of room to crop in if your presentation is going to be social media or embedded in a 4k video. The Z8 and R5C are both 45 megapixel sensors - so you'll be able to crop in even more than on the D500. An 800mm lens won't be meaningfully different in FOV on FF than your 500mm was on APS-C, though. You mention the built-in TC on the 200-800, but there's nothing stopping you from going out and getting a 1.4x TC for the lens that you have now... or a 2x, but on modern very high resolution sensors, I've never seen a 2x TC that looked better than just cropping. If you don't want to crop or if you want to shoot 4K for presentation at 4K, you really should be looking at APS-C or M43 cameras. Bonus, you can also still use a TC. -
This is an example of how far away a 500mm is for my on the D500: https://photos.app.goo.gl/TUS5QRjQzKWX5btr6 Would have loved to get larger shots of the Terns on the raft or the Green Speckled Woodpecker. All were shot handheld. I think the 200-800mm with a 2x TC would have been a better choice there but maybe on a tripod with gimbal head?
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kayasaman reacted to a post in a topic: Nikon Z8 or Canon R5C to combine stills and video
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I think IBIS can be overcome with a gimbal like the RS4 Pro from DJI. As for the battery life, one of the videos above suggested you could get around 5 days using a battery pack from Amazon. About grading, I just started to learn the different methods for my drone footage taken last year. My first attempts were pretty bad using first Shotcut then later Davinci Resolve Studio. Can't remember if I popped this up already - apologies as my head is all over the place right now!! but it definitely is better balanced and has no weird artifacts like Magenta or Cyan blobs in the sky or that crazy over saturated blue hue that showed up in the clouds due to the white balance being off in camera: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VewQSP0gCb2MICn8ZJEvg9QnNfxJm325/view?usp=drive_link - it was my first time using the drone so I was just getting used to it.
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Hi, sorry for the confusion. I plan to use this system in place of my Pentax K1 II and Nikon D500. I am slowly planning traveling the world in a 4x4 and doing Overlanding/travel videos as well as natural world/nature documentaries. Locally I find the APSC combination with the 500mm lens is slightly short because there is no large fauna where I am, only small birds like the Eurasian Robin, Tits, and Finches. To start with I do not plan on using the articulating screen at 750mm lol π I actually would need to use it with something like a 50mm f1.2 around a campfire or in the car or just generally vlogging My idea is to use these lenses while on a multi day hike, again the articulating screen would come in handy when filming myself and another person, obviously not restricted to: * 15-35mm f2.8 * One of 24-70 f2.8, 28-105mm f2.8, 24-105 f4 * One of the 70-200 f2.8 or f4 * 100mm macro The above would let me cover all basis when I don't know the area or what to expect and still be light enough to not kill me after a 5 hour hike. I am also interested in the 200-800 for wildlife especially using the TC's for far away or small subjects but it would be used on shorter walks where the weight won't be such an issue. Last night I even checked the NiSi Aureus range of lenses at T1.5 which are interesting but if I can get by with the Canon RF lenses mentioned above then there would be no need for them. I definitely would need to be shooting CLog or other color gradable format for video. Not sure if the R5II has that? The fan is much welcome too as if I'm outside and it's say 45 degC I don't want the camera overheating if leaving the camera running (using a battery pack of course as I think you get 30mins out of the R5C internal battery) To summarize basically I'm trying to build an all in one setup that will cover all my basis and be a lot less to take along then say 3 different systems.
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Using it as an example furthers the false narrative being pushed by the dipshit president and right-wing news outlets. A better example might be "the large-scale protests planned all across the country this weekend." As far as your other questions, as long as you're using a 180 shutter, once you become somewhat accustomed to the camera, your exposure controls are limited to ISO, aperture, and ND. In you use a variable ND, in many situations, you'll be able to just set an ISO/aperture and dial in the exposure with the ND. Otherwise, if you're less familiar with the camera and those settings, you might just use "S" mode and set the shutter to 180, put on an ND8 or ND16 if you plan to be outdoors, and just let the camera work out the aperture and ISO for you.
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Nikon Z8 or Canon R5C to combine stills and video
eatstoomuchjam replied to kayasaman's topic in Cameras
That all depends - if you have a 61 megapixel FF sensor, the only real benefit to it is the ability to crop in. Much heavier glass is also subjective - I kind of love the Canon RF 800mm f/11. It's obviously very limiting to have a fixed f/11 aperture, but the lens is otherwise a decent performer and not that different from using a 400mm lens at f/5.6 on M43. I would say, though, that stabilization is huge at such long focal lengths - and that might be a reason to consider a Panasonic body and Panasonic lens since their hybrid IS is by far the best. I don't have much problem getting sharp photos on the R5 with the 800/11 since whatever mix of IS is used works pretty well - but I also only use it in fairly bright areas and I don't mind bumping up the ISO a little bit. -
No offence, I am aware of that, and that wasn't the point I wanted to make.
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kayasaman reacted to a post in a topic: Nikon Z8 or Canon R5C to combine stills and video
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kayasaman reacted to a post in a topic: Nikon Z8 or Canon R5C to combine stills and video
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There are no riots in Los Angeles. Get your information from a real news source.
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eatstoomuchjam reacted to a post in a topic: Camera prices β Have the Japanese taken leave of their senses?
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Hi there, I recently re-aquired a gx80 for a mere β¬180, because waiting for an update of the series by Panasonic is obviously futile (and a x-e5 costs almost tenfold). I'd really like to know in which modes you use or used the camera for shooting video. With the "VideoM" mode dailed in, and in "S" mode, the display reveals no information about which aperture or iso the camera is using, and whether the exposure is right. Same in A or P. When I stick to "M", I'll see if the scene is under or overexposed, but I have to operate Iso manually, on top of shutter, aperture and ND - this is a bit of a stretch in "run and gun" situations, which suit the camera very well, otherwise. I used to film in the A and S dial stills modes, but someone on this forum said that the camera won't stick to the values displayed when not running the video from the movie mode. What are or were your settings, especially when covering, let's say, L.A. riots or other environments in movement, with changing lighting conditions? Have you tried the Standard "S" or "A" stills mode?
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I got really excited for a second when I saw the EVF but that A7IV sensor is a buzzkill. For a video first camera I can't get around the 26ms rolling shutter. Unless you shoot static shots, this is just bad performance. I also find it insane Sony is still not offering resolution above 4K or internal RAW in 2025. For 3200β¬ I find that unforgiving considering you can get a used/grey FX3 for around that price. Not even going to mention the competition options. Don't get me wrong, this is still a very solid hybrid camera with some worthy improvements but I'd still pick FX3 over it unless you absolutely need an EVF and even then an A7S3 would probably still give you a better image, especially low-light. Sony is still doing one step forward, two steps back.
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R5C got some solid updates including AF. I find it actually way superior to Nikon Z8/Z9. Smoother, more reliable tracking. Less pulsing/hunting. Nikon AF can sometimes trip or get confused but Z lenses do offer minimal breathing which is nice. The main catch with R5C is no IBIS and average battery life. If you can live with those two cons it's a better hybrid in my opinion. Grading N-log is also more time consuming than C-log.
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Camera prices β Have the Japanese taken leave of their senses?
ND64 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Body only is 10,000 yuan in China. Its expensive for these specs, unless the target market don't give a f about specs, which apparently Fuji believes is the case. -
Nikon Z8 or Canon R5C to combine stills and video
Andrew Reid replied to kayasaman's topic in Cameras
I am thinking full frame sensor is pretty bad for telephoto work at such long focal lengths. You are carrying much heavier glass and cropping into the sensor, aka not making the most of full frame - so you'd be far better off with a Micro Four Thirds camera for that. I am confused with your need for a fully articulating selfie screen at 750mm too π The R5C has worse AF for video. What about R5 II? Might be worth a look. I'd be tempted to go original R5 and a different camera for your telephoto shots, with a high-res crop sensor. -
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Andrew Reid replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Β£1299 in the UK. $1299 would be the original US pricing without Trump's madness. So the tariffs are adding $400 onto a $1299 camera body. All of it into the pockets of a fascist administration rather than a nice Japanese camera company, too. Ouch. -
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Phil A replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
1549 EUR incl. VAT for body only... That's actually reasonable. So it's only the Americans that get the result of the tariffs with the price in the leaks. Now we just gotta see if they can actually fulfill orders or if it's another X100VI / X-M5 debacle. I also just realized, there were zero words about the video features. Guess those we'll find out about in influencer videos now that the NDA expired. -
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MrSMW replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
I think itβs great. Another camera that could have been great but isnβt so I have utterly zero interest in and therefore will not be spending any money on. Keep it up camera industry, you are doing good and keeping my money firmly in my bank account π«‘ - Yesterday
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People are comapring it to the X-E4 price, but the X-E4 was clearly designed as an entry level camera. But the insanity in price is already shown with the cameta that this X-E5 try to mimic: the X100VI. The X100VI comes with a 23mm f/2 lens included, hybrid viewfinder with better EVF panel (3.69m dots vs 2.36 dots), a better rear LCD (1.62m dots vs 1.04m dots), the combined shutter speed / iso dial (which is expensive to manufacture), a real integrated flash with a leaf shutter that syncs much better with it, and an internal ND filter. The two downsides are the slightly less effective IBIS (much more noted in video, which is not the priority on both models), and the ability to change lenses. The X100VI, with a 23mm f/2 lens included, is listed by $1599. The X-E5, with a 23mm f/2.8, by the rumors, is $1899. $300 more for an inferior camera / lens combo.
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Nikon Z8 or Canon R5C to combine stills and video
eatstoomuchjam replied to kayasaman's topic in Cameras
Ooh, good point - that one is really big. I always forget that there are millions of electronic F mount lenses in the world since I've never had a camera that could use one. π Well, that's just plain cool and probably makes the Z mount Komodo-X a much more compelling option! If there are also any Z mount cameras with APS-C, this can be an interesting option for a speed booster. It's the combination that I tend to use on my E2-S6G - MFT mount with 0.64x speed booster and FF lenses. I suspect that either of them would result in somebody getting sued into oblivion, though! π -
Have an 11 Ultra since it came out and it does provide wonderful image quality in MotionCam and McPro24Fps. Three things makes photography a difficult task on it though; For street photography I need an app that opens fast and captures fast (preferably the native camera app) 1. When you select 5x in the camera app it crops into the main sensor instead of switching to the native zoom sensor. You have to zoom to 10x and then to 5x again to fix it, every time. 2. The audio clips even at low levels and concerts can't be recorded at all for example. 3. The processing is bad on the native app and has a lot of smoothing and way too much contrast. So raw is really the only option. None of these was fixed for it. Considering the 15 Ultra and it does seem much better in most respects, but I'm not sure I trust Xiaomi after all this. GCam looks great on it though, if itΒ΄s fast enough. Anybody has any input on how 14/15 Ultra is to use in practice? The images in this thread does look great.
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Thanks for the input! I don't think I'd be able to use any of my lenses as outside of the 200-500 f5.6 which is a little short and the Sigma 105mm macro (which sadly isn't weather sealed) the other lenses I have for Nikon are DX APS-C based. The Pentax K-Mount lenses wouldn't work either on the Z8 and there is no articulating screen which is really bad news. The Z6 III has that but a much lower pixel count too and I think it might struggle for landscape and even wildlife as even at 600mm I think the focal length is way too short. At 750mm equivalent FoV on my D500 I'm constantly cropping a *lot*. I think the only thing I would be able to use with the Z8 would be my Solmeta GPS receiver which is great for Geo-tagging stills or even video, though I have a Garmin GPSMAP 67i that can be used with TelemetryOverlay. I'm thinking the RF 200-800mm lens is attractive especially with a 1.4x and 2x TC. Sure things will get a little soft but can be corrected in post with sharpening. Just been working on going over my drone footage from Scotland and color grading it properly this time. I think the R5C has both CLog2 and CLog3 which would definitely be of interest, I'm using Davinci Resolve Studio for editing: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1VewQSP0gCb2MICn8ZJEvg9QnNfxJm325/view?usp=drive_link If I went Nikon I'd probably go for the 14-24mm f2.8, 24-120mm f/4, the 100-400mm, and the 105mm macro (which has weather sealing) Canon has a 100mm macro that has a 2:1 ratio, so all I'd need to do is get the proper XPro transmitter and I'll be able to use my Godox MF-12 macro flash system. I'm also interested in a few Venus Lens Laowa specialty macro lenses like the 24mm 5x or the probe and even the 10x-50x microscopy lenses. For multi day hikes I'd probably be looking at the L lenses: 15-35mm f2.8, something in the middle - either up to 70mm or 105mm f2.8 or f4 (no idea which is the better lens to go for), and then the 70-200 f2.8 or f4 with TC's to save weight, plus the macro mentioned above. For stills the R5 and R5C seem to be the same but for video is where things become different. I wonder if the R5C II will feature improved video AF? I'm also liking the Tascam XLR adapter with 48V phantom power, though I'm thinking of using an external video recorder instead so I would need Timecode sync too which the R5C has the capability. Maybe I should just wait for the R5C II though I have no idea of the release date and since I'm not in a rush might be worth it? It's really a bang your head against the wall situation..... lol
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Nikon F with full as native like electronic control is the big one for me. FujiFilm X mount is also available now with full electronic control. Limited to APS-C by the nature of the lenses of course. Dumb mount MFT is also available. Again, limited image coverage but OK up to APS-C as most of the MFT lenses you'd want to use offer that wider coverage. In theory, there is enough space for someone to do a Hasselblad XCD adapter but no one has actually done it as far as i'm aware. There are a couple of other interesting ones between the Z and the RF as well, most notably Canon's own EF-M and of course the RF mount itself !
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I was one that was advocating that Fuji treats custom color profiles in the same way that they do with their film simulations - which looks like they do, finally. No more complicated methods using the C positions, which are NOT meant to that. But I agree - film recipes are a trend and probably people want to experiment more since now it will not be a pain in the ass to access them (I'm one of them), but it could be EASILY just a Q menu setting.
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Camera prices β Have the Japanese taken leave of their senses?
Clark Nikolai replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Right. The physical wheel should be for commonly used features like EV adjustment, not for rarely used things like picture profiles. I have a pocket camera with one and every time I put it away in my pocket, the fabric moves the dial to some other position and I have put it back before shooting. Slows me down. -
I am tempted to pull the trigger... Thank you guys! :- )
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Nikon Z8 or Canon R5C to combine stills and video
eatstoomuchjam replied to kayasaman's topic in Cameras
Are they Sony lenses? Or are you including things like the autofocus adapter for M mount? Which other lenses can be adapted to Z mount that can't be adapted to R?