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Yeah, they are the Alice people rebranded. A project that leaves their original customers behind and launches a "new" one. Lots of cases in Kickstarter, or in case of software it could be called "Luminar move"... Very different from, like, the Pixii project.

I will say, all of this is confusing — Sean (of Lumix Live) spent about five minutes talking about Lumix Pro Services just today. Either he’s not aware of what’s going on, or I’ve completely misunderstood. But if he isn’t aware, it really doesn’t look good… and here he is still promoting it while their doors are apparently closing in 25 days. That's communication for you!

Fair point.

Ugh. And to make it even worse, they don't use human-understandable names for the lenses, but use model numbers. You know, for all the people who say "I'm gonna shoot this with my H-H014." Plus they put NG for all of the Olympus lenses - wonder if that means that I was wrong about the ones that I thought went to linear when you engaged the clutch or whether it just means that Panasonic couldn't be bothered to check them. "I'd like to manually focus this, but first let me consult the table in my user manual to see if manual focus works with this camera/lens combo..."

Big markets of sports, journalists, news agencies, they need fast troubleshooting, fast lane repair, and so on. It does look like Panasonic has given up targeting these customers and will only be focusing on consumers, content creators and enthusiasts with future cameras. So does that mean no more high-end or pro cameras? (Could explain lack of S1H Mark II)

The situation is worse than I thought, and this information is hard to find. The last column is hidden at the bottom of this table. The table is different for every camera body. This is for GH5MII https://av.jpn.support.panasonic.com/support/global/cs/dsc/connect/gh5m2.html Regarding the Summilux 25mm F1.4. The first version (H-X025 - 300USD used) doesn't support Focus ring control (ufficial Panasonic name for this basic operation) Only the second version support it (HA-X025) .

LOL. Why not just say that in the first place then?

that camera is not for us here in Greece... like first and second Canon R6 , they are overheat like crazy (30-40 Celsius half the year) ! Much more expensive too than ZR here.

The ZR is still a beast. That big screen, 32 bit audio and R3D workflow are seriously impressive, but it’s video first and still has a few UI quirks. The Nikon/RED partnership still feels a bit first gen. The R6 Mark III just feels more balanced, yet flexible enough to deliver cinematic footage straight out of the body with many C50 features/sensor ported over. A bit like the 5D mark3 with ML Raw, this feels like they struck the perfect balance. You can shoot open gate h265 for social or RAW for high-end delivery, switch to the mechanical shutter for flash stills, and color match Canon’s C line with zero hassle. Paired with the new 45 mm f1.2 STM, it’s a setup that really nails what I want in a hybrid rig. As a shooter who still swears by my old EF 35 mm f1.4 and 50 mm f1.2, this combo really speaks to me. Could probably now trade those lenses in for this new setup. The fact that the whole kit comes in around 3000 euros is kind of wild for what it delivers. For me it’s not about beating other systems, it’s just the first Canon in years that feels genuinely right for how I shoot. I'll give it a few days to sink in, Nikon Z mount holds the advantage of being able to adapt my EF, Sony E & Leica M glass all with AF which is something big to consider but its hard for me to dismiss open gate value in 2025 moving forward.

A bit small and lacking in res for 2025, but otherwise looks a decent spec overall but nothing especially exciting. That sounds pretty decent though... With a clean sheet, I'd still go Nikon personally, - I just prefer their history and direction they are going in.

Another nice camera that ist perfectly capable to shoot your personal "Frances Ha".

Well yeah the lack of a fan isn't going to give you unlimited thermals in the most demanding recording options but I find it quite acceptable (above reviewer got almost 2 hours in 7K RAW Open Gate 30p) and unlike the ZR the h265 is actually very usable here with constant bitrate oversampled 4K. If you add open gate, 4K120 no crop, mech shutter and EVF, it seems to me like the better hybrid choice. ZR is still fantastic considering its compact size, R3D code, 32-bit float and 4" display. It's just nice to see Canon holding no punches in this mid-tier market! I'm still undecided, I hope this pushes Nikon to add open gate and more RED tech like traffic light system to ZR via firmware.

Heat management is like Canon wants you to buy C50 instead And RAW file size situation is not different from ZR

Just when I was about to pull trigger on a ZR, Canon drops this bombshell: Canon EOS R6 III Key specifications 32.5MP full-frame CMOS sensor Built-in image stabilization rated to 8.5EV 40fps burst rate w/ pre-capture 3.0", 1.62M dot fully-articulating screen 7K recording up to 60p (Canon Cinema Raw Lite) Oversampled 4K <60p, 4K 120p with audio Q&S mode dial 3:2 Open Gate recording up to 30p $2799 / 2899 € ..and it doesn't stop there, Canon is also dropping a 45mm f1.2 STM lens.. for $470 / 445€ !

The polite version is “no thank you”.

That’s what I ‘converted’ mine to. It no longer had a place in my lineup, the trade in value is a bit shit and my zoom has too much cosmetic damage to realistically sell, so I have mashed the 2 together and made it a C can and personal camera and re. the latter, don’t mind shooting APSC stills. You and me both, but it won’t happen will it. No way will they repurpose an old body, - they would be destroyed by ‘The Community’. If you are not moving forwards, you are going backwards. I think they need to pop it out in a ZR/FX3 body style but have the fully articulating screen and a big one at that a la ZR and done deal, - I’d flip my second S1RII for it at launch. Possibly even my S5II also.

Remembered it now, they are called Nikken Techno and are the official repair centre for France for Lumix cameras…or so I was told and guided to by Panasonic France. Used them twice to date. Very efficient.

Its equivalent of Nikon and Canon announce they are closing down their NPS and CPS service. Sport shooters, photo journalists, news agencies, would panic. But Panasonic has no dog in that fight, and probably just gave up.

pantax cameras are good for mf lenses in the current era. i have a pentax q, amazed at its support for mf lenses even with such a small body.

Google "Lumix closing pro services on November 30, 2025." and click "I'm feeling lucky". Otherwise, https://www.lumixpro.panasonic.com/uk/ Also, everyone with a Lumix pro account received an email... and it wasn't the first. Actually, more than a month old news. I was just wondering what it could mean for Lumix and Panasonic.

I just want an S1H in exactly the same body but a bit lighter, with the updated real-time LUT and AF. Done deal.

That Sigma APS-C zoom is lovely on the S9 in 4K60p

Your post has way too little info for such a big claim. Closing the services where? France? How did you find out? on the phone? On Google? On instagram? On the back of some tea leaf? You know the rules of the internet by now surely... When you find an URL cut and paste the post into your post about the post. Otherwise you keep people guessing what the fucking source is.

Some of these criticisms are primarily valid for older/shittier focus-by-wire systems, though. The Canon EF 85/1.2L has a famously terrible focus-by-wire system that made almost nobody ever want to use it - not only is it non-linear, but it's also a little bit laggy. Of course, its focus motor is also slow and a bit loud. I still use mine sometimes, though, for photo shoots - the image is really nice and models who are staying more-or-less still are a decent use case for a slow AF motor. Anyway, the Panasonic 20/1.7 pancake is in a similar situation. It's old, relatively noisy, and slow, with no ability to be switched to linear response. It's fucking awful to use in manual focus mode for that reason - and yeah, AF mode also aint' great. On the other hand, I think most or all of the first-party lenses for Fuji GF are focus by wire. They're either linear or switchable to it (and I set the option in the camera and immediately forgot since there's no way I'd switch it back). When manually focusing, the damping is nice and the lens is responsive and accurate. It really feels like focusing a proper lens. Though many of those lenses also fall into your category of spending a lot of money. I think that all of the PanaLeica lenses are either linear or close enough to it that it felt linear to me. Some of the older ones are pretty affordable now - like the Summilux 25/1.4 asph goes for about $300 used. Worth confirming that they all have linear response, though - I only had a few when I shot M43 and that was a long time ago so I could be misremembering. Otherwise, I feel like the Olympus lenses with a focus clutch also were linear-ish, but maybe I'm crazy there too. As to the thinking behind a "non-proportional" focus was, I think, that for photos, you could get rough focus quickly by turning the dial fast and then get a really precise critical focus by turning slowly. At least that's what they said. I think the bigger thinking behind it was "we can make this lens for less money as well as simplifying the design by removing the coupling between focus ring and lens elements"