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Turns out the camera is a very effective anti-fascism tool
Anaconda_ replied to Andrew - EOSHD's topic in Cameras
This anti-fascist tool is apparently also an admission to being a terrorist. https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/ice-making-list-of-anyone-who-films -
Nikon argued that the patents (in the lawsuit RED against Nikon) are invalid because RED demonstrated the patented features more than one year before applying for it, so this is against the rules and the patent should not have been granted. Jinni Tech used this argument before apparently successfully. Since Nikon argued the patents are invalid they should not enforce them otherwise they are being dishonest and opportunistic. The patents have been in any case interpreted too broadly and should be specific to a using particular methods described in the patent and not considered generic to all kinds of visually lossless raw compressions in video. The "invention" is rather trivial in any case since similar things (visually lossless raw compression) were used for stills compression before and the raw video file is just a sequence of stills images. Nikon's method of raw video compression is different from RED's and Intopix has a patent on it anyway. I think the RED patents were enforced in such a broad way simply because it was an American company and the purpose of the US Patent system is just to help American companies gain advantages in the market, whether merited or not.
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The HVX200 (not A) was the primary camera at my first paid staff video position back in 2009. I traveled and shot with it extensively. The combination of that camera, the lights that were available to me at the time (Arri tungsten & Kino Flo), and the hoops that we had to jump through for basic color correction did not create a very compelling image. Or, they didn't with my skill level. I remember trying to get a wide shot of all four members of OAR in a tiny hotel room and having to use the Century wide angle adapter, with it's massive distortion and blurry corners. I think we took down one of the hotel curtains and draped it over the couch they were sitting on because its floral design didn't match the subject. It was such yucky footage. The first time I saw 5D, 7, or even GH1 footage, it was profoundly gorgeous by comparison. There's not really any part of me that misses the HVX, though sometimes I'm tempted to track one down just to see what I can get out of it with 17 years of experience and all of the modern support tech. But even that experiment isn't worth a couple hundred bucks to me. I do think that some of the later 2/3" CCD bodies were capable of something unique in the right hands, if you're willing to deal with the bulk and weight of a historical ENG/EFP camera. I'm not. I've mentioned it before but whenever I get the itch to shoot with a CCD camera, I reach for my trusty FZ-47. It has a bigger CCD than the HVX but is a fraction of the size and weight, and costs next to nothing. No, it doesn't have any professional I/O or features, but it is fully manual and I think it's way more fun to shoot with than any of the behemoths that came before. The image is gloriously junky, and it the way it handles skin tones is wierd but kind of cool.
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If Brazil can do it with Pix, I'm sure the European Union with twice the population (across all member states) can do it as well. Visa/Mastercard are still plentiful here, but Pix is huge and, being owned/controlled by the Central Bank of Brazil, I suspect that it has both lower per-transaction fees than the commercial counterpart, but also keeps the money in the country vs shipping it abroad.
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Except it's Nikon now isn't it? A Japanese company owns the patent. Europe voiding the US patents of a Japanese company... Now that is very risky politics.
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Replacing a leech like VISA as just one example should absolutely be done but I don't think it's a lack of self confidence, I think it's just really tough to do, both legally and in terms of the policy and the politics of it, the EU has always been about encouraging big American corporate types to come in and set up shop, and invest, so it would send a very bad message to all US businesses that they're no longer welcome to invest billions in the European economy, and it would cost a heck of a lot of European jobs as well if they all pulled out, they are such big companies. Practically it would be almost impossible, like taking the egg out of a pancake mixture. I personally though, as a consumer, want to see many of these big companies gone. I want to see eBay vanish or be forcibly bought by the EU and split up into multiple European companies, PayPal can fuck off, VISA, Mastercard, many of the US banks, all can go and do their business elsewhere as can Tesla. There are numerous US companies that have a near-monopoly or duopoly, or act like a cartel. Some have built valuable infrastructure, like Amazon - both in terms of physical goods distribution, and online with their cloud services. Kicking them out would be very unpleasant for Europe and for jobs... But it might have to be done if the US doesn't change course.
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Turns out the camera is a very effective anti-fascism tool
Andrew - EOSHD replied to Andrew - EOSHD's topic in Cameras
At least we're not checking people's political persuasion and social media history at airports. If the online posts are right wing incitements to violence, I am on the side of the police. While I disagree with some of the heavy handed methods used, there are certain people who deserve to be prosecuted and only have themselves to blame. And at the same time, the government is also making bad decisions, and some decisions that are straight out of the right-wing playbook rather than what you'd normally associate with a centre-left Labour government. For example the whole approach to the pro-Gaza protests has been baffling, the arrest of peaceful anti-genocide protesters completely wrong, the overzealous roll out of facial recognition technology is wrong, the attempts to roll back encryption, all quite wrong and the police getting involved with online 'hate speech' resulting in them arresting people like Graham Linehan for his opinions, just because a lot of people find him offensive. (It's a real pity that he chose to die on the anti-trans hill and it's classic depression... why couldn't he keep giving us more IT Crowd and Father Ted instead?) The government is reviewing the hate speech policing and quite rightly too... https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2922w73e1o But when it's online literal nazis inciting people to attack others, they deserve to have the police at the door and I've no problem with it. That's less about censorship, than it is about law and order. - Yesterday
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Turns out the camera is a very effective anti-fascism tool
Andrew - EOSHD replied to Andrew - EOSHD's topic in Cameras
This sir, is a very good point. Ideally for these situations there should be a mode which transfers automatically to an encrypted server at home and the camera never stores anything, so if it's taken captive, there's nothing to see. -
You are correct that the economic impact of European countries replacing those services with our own systems would be huge on the US. Also the loss of influence would be significant. But I suspect somehow that Europe doesn't have the self-confidence to actually go through it. They should, though. But Trump's admin is quick to anger and reacts to even small threats to their plans. Starmer threatened to shut down Twitter/X after the latest scandal (of AI generated sexually explicit images of users based on their photos). JD Vance has said that if UK shut down UK residents' access to X then the US will pull out from Nato. This is how much they are intent on bringing a Trump style admin and politics to UK. I think we need to coordinate action with Canada, UK, EU, Japan, Australia and develop alternatives to all this technology and services and eventually sell all financial assets in the US and shut down Meta, Alphabet, X, use a new financial services system which not US based or influenced and simply live in a world free of US influence and coercion now that that country has revealed its true colors. The remaining problem is the majority of military power is now concentrated under undemocratic, autocratic governments which could cause problems if they feel they are losing the economic and social influence over the democratic and free parts of the world.
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Turns out the camera is a very effective anti-fascism tool
Ilkka Nissila replied to Andrew - EOSHD's topic in Cameras
Good! But still there is hate speech published daily online on some platforms. Hopefully European countries soon shut those sites down before someone like Adolf or Nigel or Josif or Donald gets elected here alao and does their worst. -
Turns out the camera is a very effective anti-fascism tool
sanveer replied to Andrew - EOSHD's topic in Cameras
Apparently the UK has the strongest censorship for online posts. As bad the present US admin for in-person free speech. It apparently had the highest arrests per thousand in the world. -
Turns out the camera is a very effective anti-fascism tool
newfoundmass replied to Andrew - EOSHD's topic in Cameras
This is how they act knowing cameras are on them, filming every thing they do, and with witnesses. Imagine what they are doing when there aren't any cameras fixed on them or people watching. What horrors are they inflicting on the people they've locked up? There are still people here in the US who support this. Those are people we'll never be able to get through. I wan't to think it will get better, but I fear it will need to get a lot worse before that happens. -
Looks great 👍 Is it still on the Play Store?
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This is certainly a sustainable approach, but it might end up being very unpopular with users - that and it would encourage trendy/mass appeal/influencer content vs evergreen content. It's not a wrong decision, but it definitely won't appeal to everybody. It might. Keep in mind that depending on the market, you will also have legal concerns and fees associated with hosting user-generated video content. The second anybody uploads CSAM, you're going to be dealing with international police, regulations, etc. Then add in processing of copyright claims, etc. That many users will also necessitate a user support organization of some sort. Massive economies of scale indeed - plus owning a lot of their own fiber and CDN (reducing transfer costs) as well as owning their own storage, etc. Premium is, IMO, one of the best values in streaming and it's hard to imagine that it doesn't lose google money, at least somewhat. They may look at it as losing them less money than users installing Adblock. Peer to peer, no. Federation, maybe. We'll see how things go for Bluesky and the like.
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Anyone here shoot a Panasonic Pro AG-HVX200A recently or even back in the day? I'm thinking I want to go into the past for the final camcorder purchase of my life. I figure I should have a true CCD camcorder just "because" and this one might be it. Looking for any advice, thanks.
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Turns out the camera is a very effective anti-fascism tool
mtol replied to Andrew - EOSHD's topic in Cameras
There's an interesting conversation to be had about the limitations of images to create positive change in the world, but there's also a conversation to be had about the technical limitations of our gear. What gear is really war-ready? I've long thought that camera manufacturers need to implement some kind of in-camera encryption for serious documentary work. Clearly, filming events like these is crucial. But what happens when your gear is seized in a politically sensitive context? What happens when a fascist state can use high resolution images that you capture to criminalize the people you're documenting, to find and hunt down other witnesses? The camera can be a liability too. And what could be done to upload footage automatically, or a proxy, in the event that the seized gear never comes back? Other than everyone streaming everything live all the time, which carries its own risk. We've seen now footage from people who were arrested or detained - which, I think, is fortunate but far from a certainty going forward. We're still missing a piece of the puzzle - not that ICE isn't clearly guilty of murder here - but they seized Pretti's phone, and now the fascists are the only ones to decide if that footage will be seen. -
Turns out the camera is a very effective anti-fascism tool
Ilkka Nissila replied to Andrew - EOSHD's topic in Cameras
There is not that much in terms of news coverage from Iran in European and North American media even in normal times let alone when there are demonstrations and the regime is trying to subdue them (and cut off internet connections). I would guess that the government of Iran probably doesn't especially welcome journalists from the West and the European and North American populations are used to not seeing much coverage from that area, apart from the news about major war, missiles flying etc. We tend to want to see news from areas which are close to us geographically and similar to ours so we can understand and feel some closeness to it. There isn't that much news from South America or Australia, either. I would, to be honest, be happy to see fewer news from the USA and have the media focus on our own region and ignore Trump's latest deeds. But it seems that our media get much of their material from the US sources and so this is constantly coming up. What would be good, of course, is to have correspondents living in different parts of the world and living among the people there are really report what is happening from the perspective of the people living there. This includes Iran. But I suppose it's expensive to arrange and there are risks, if they don't like what you've been reporting. -
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Vimeo, End of an Era
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Vimeo was probably one of those American tech platforms that never existed to make a profit, only to grow, backed by generous venture capital funds. It's the Amazon model. Lose money for decades and finally become so massive and big that you can finally at the end make some huge profits with a diverse business (i.e. not just books!) With Vimeo they were number 2 only to YouTube so the server costs must have been astronomical. With a return of the same concept, personally I'd do it differently. I'd make sure the subscription fee covered all the costs and made a profit which could be invested back into growing the business, rather than relying on corporate socialist handouts from banks. As for storage - you get a finite amount, and you have to delete the junk yourself to keep your account in order, or delete old stuff that never gained any views. There's a lot of waste on platforms like YouTube, a lot of junk like live streams that have 2 hours of dead air in them (just a camera pointed at a stage for example). These lower res copies pay for themselves in reducing the bandwidth bill. I think it balances out. Some users will use storage all the way up to the cap, some will stay well under it, so it's all about the average. Yes but let's say 100,000 users paying £60/yr that is 6 million quid a year, which should more than cover the hosting costs 🙂 No definitely not, it's all about the average views, everyone subsidises each-other, so when you have a breakout success it's covered. YouTube benefits from massive economies of scale but look at the cost of Premium. It's as low as $4 per month in some countries like India, with vastly more bandwidth and storage requirements than a niche filmmaking site, but YouTube still makes enough money from it to run the platform with no caps and take down ads for those users. It's a temporary increase in RAM and SSD prices, it'll all go way down when the AI bubble bursts in a few months. I don't think peer-to-peer can work for a Vimeo-clone. For exactly the reason you mentioned above :)
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Turns out the camera is a very effective anti-fascism tool
Andrew - EOSHD replied to Andrew - EOSHD's topic in Cameras
Look at the difference between societies with widespread smartphone camera use and functional internet, compared to somewhere like Iran where over the last few weeks 12,000 citizens, women, young men, murdered by the regime but hardly any images or footage coming out = world ignorance. I barely saw any news coverage at all. If the only purpose of the camera is to create shock and outrage, that's one thing. More useful, is it keeps a watchful eye on what the authorities get up to and when they lie it's harder for them to pass off their bullshit. Also the Leica M10 is a documentary camera that just so happens to also create stylish art, rather than the hyper clear smartphone look, so the stuff that produces is fit for the history books - which cherry pick the most iconic images. Of course number one objective must be to stay safe but if you have a chance to open your eyes and look around in these historic times, never pass it up. -
Turns out the camera is a very effective anti-fascism tool
Ilkka Nissila replied to Andrew - EOSHD's topic in Cameras
Fueling hatred and chaos allows ordinary people's attention to be redirected from the fact that ever larger part of the money goes to the super-rich, and by having the working class and regular people fight with each other they cannot organize and demand fair wages and working conditions, and solutions to regular people's problems. The billionaires just want all the money to themselves and they want to bypass democracy using technological means. And now they have an autocrat who does their bidding. Yes, they are cruel people. They behave like they wanted to use up all the planet's resources before all things end (which they will not see in this current generation of billionaires, but their children or grandchildren might). However, only a part of the population believes the lies. Better education accessible to everyone is the solution. In Europe, education is a lot more egalitarian. -
Turns out the camera is a very effective anti-fascism tool
Snowfun replied to Andrew - EOSHD's topic in Cameras
And, unfortunately, it is becoming too easy to blame AI for the creation of material we don't like. -
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fuzzynormal replied to Andrew - EOSHD's topic in Cameras
I want to be wrong...but my own family...man. It's not good. -
Turns out the camera is a very effective anti-fascism tool
Andrew - EOSHD replied to Andrew - EOSHD's topic in Cameras
I'm more optimistic than you on this front. -
Turns out the camera is a very effective anti-fascism tool
fuzzynormal replied to Andrew - EOSHD's topic in Cameras
I wish video documentation would stop it. But if you're here you'd kind of know it's not gonna stem the tide in my nation. Shame and reality are irrelevant now; doesn't move the needle. As an American it's pretty easy to see that the collapse of our ideals post WWII society is inevitable. The capitalists want it and they have the power, they control the narratives. And the narratives don't offer rationality--they just offer ideological excuses. Not exactly sure why the powerful want this. Maybe they're just cruel people? Maybe they know climate change is coming and will cause crisis so they need to lock things down with fascism to have societal control while covering their asses(ts)? I don't know. I do know I'm sad. I would've rather not lived through this. - Last week
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Would you limit storage space for uploads and/or remove videos after a certain amount of time on the platform? Storage tends to be one of the biggest difficulties cost-wise for a video hosting site. Keep in mind that you don't store just one copy of the video at the resolution that was uploaded. You store multiple copies of the video at progressively smaller sizes - so if somebody uploads 4k, you will end up storing at least 1080p and 720p copies as well - as well as potentially 2.5k and 480p copies depending. People don't usually expect their videos to stay on the site for only 1 year. So even if you're able to stay even at £60 ($82USD)/year for a year or two, as long as people are uploading and not deleting things, your costs will keep increasing. That's also not to mention transfer and CDN costs which are also potentially high. Imagine having a single very popular creator who uploads a daily 20 minute video in 4K quality which is then streamed by 1 million people every day. Will you still charge them just $82/year even though they're costing you a lot more than that? To make it worse, storage costs are increasing a lot - thanks to the AIpocalypse for RAM which impacts SSD's as well... and since SSD's are up, hard drives also went up since the big players are buying more of them instead of SSD's. This is where decentralized options like PeerTube start to become tempting - though they suffer the problem that a chunk of the content can vanish because a single operator gets tired of paying a lot of money to host others' content.
