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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:11 AM

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:21 AM

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Rumour or Fact.

Prediction: If this is true this could be the DSLR killer.

Kineraw coming out with smaller version with S35 for $4000. Wow.

SPEC'S
From bmc board:
Same s35 sensor as its big bro
Fits in the palm of your hand....
No fan
Shoots DNG only
Dual HDMI
Single SSD slot
cost around $4k

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:33 AM

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The video does look very good. But I was sure it would long ago. ;-) About the rumor, where is this info coming from?

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:44 AM

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http://www.bmcuser.c...-Kineraw-Camera

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 05:13 AM

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Interesting... Do you know what this "CR podcast" is?

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 08:38 AM

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Could be the fxguide.com RC podcast from this week, its mentioned in passing, they query framerates, thats about it other than brief discussion on raw DNG, confusion over that and Cineform.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:25 PM

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I'm testing the Ikonoskop tomorrow :)
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:08 PM

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Right on. You're having a lot of fun with these different cameras. By the way, check if any moire on some bikinis. My wife will hate me for that one. Cheers. :)

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:11 PM

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This footage looks great. I don't know much about this camera aside from the fact that it has a 35mm sensor opposed to BMC's M43(ish) sensor. From this short, i almost like its image better than the BMC's... I emailed Kinefinity about it. I'm hoping it won't be Kinemag Proprietary, and you can use third party ssd's like the bmc. It's also only 2k, and cost $3000 more than the Bmc.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:33 PM

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Germy1979,
There's talk of a smaller size version of the Kineraw S35 - same sensor, but more compact. It supposedly will have no fan. It will cost around $4000? The Chinese are clever and are very capable to develop. I wouldn't doubt a prototype is working. It seems they are listening to what people want. In the past there was talk of 4k too. Interesting times.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:52 PM

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Alexa like? This video looks way worse than what we have seen previously. Was it supposed to be that flat?

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 08:39 PM

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Footage isn't color graded. Look at the overall look. Organic and has a filmic appearance. Highlight rolloff not a dslr look.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:01 PM

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Footage isn't color graded. Look at the overall look. Organic and has a filmic appearance. Highlight rolloff not a dslr look.


It says on Vimeo that it was lightly graded.

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:20 PM

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Right on. You're having a lot of fun with these different cameras. By the way, check if any moire on some bikinis. My wife will hate me for that one. Cheers. :)


Bikinis in November in Berlin? Erm I will try my best :) We're going to do more studio based tests with proper actors. I'm bored of scenery.
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:54 PM

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Bikinis in November in Berlin? Erm I will try my best :) We're going to do more studio based tests with proper actors. I'm bored of scenery.


Yay Finally!

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 11:10 PM

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I'm testing the Ikonoskop tomorrow :)


Hi Andrew. Please can you do me a favor and test it with a century style anamorphic on a 16/25mm taking lens? I'd be interested to see how this adaptor works on a 16mm sensor..

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 02:22 PM

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Love the image this camera produces (the intercut slow-mo footage really makes it shine that little bit more) & of course, it costs more.

Really interested to see what Andrew makes of the Ikonoskop.

Digital Bolex will be very interesting once they've finished tinkering.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:31 PM

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Comments on Vimeo indicate the slow motion was shot on a FS700. I find that very interesting since I didn't notice any shift in image quality between the shots.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 09:56 PM

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Alexa like? This video looks way worse than what we have seen previously. Was it supposed to be that flat?


Some of the shots do look kind of flat yes. I have a prediction: Now that we are getting cameras with all this dynamic range shot in flat profiles, I bet we will be seeing a lot more flat looking footage. I think there will be a tendency to avoid crushing and burning so much because people will want to show all that latitude that people will leave it more flat then anything else. In some ways I see this as a good thing. Frankly, I'm totally sick to death of the current "Film" look with the over bearing crushed blacks and desaturated orange and blue cast. I'm sure this more subtle grading will eventually even out though and turn into something interesting. We'll have to see what happens though.
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Posted 24 November 2012 - 03:16 AM

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Shooting flat in harsh sunlight is one thing, doing it on a cloudy day, i dunno.




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