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New Kineraw video: Looks Alexa Like

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[url="https://vimeo.com/53786956"]https://vimeo.com/53786956[/url]

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Rumour or Fact.

Prediction: If this is true this could be the DSLR killer.

Kineraw coming out with smaller version with S35 for $4000. Wow.

[b]SPEC'S[/b]
From bmc board:
Same s35 sensor as its big bro
Fits in the palm of your hand....
No fan
Shoots DNG only
Dual HDMI
Single SSD slot
cost around $4k

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The video does look very good. But I was sure it would long ago. ;-) About the rumor, where is this info coming from?

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[url="http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.php?1966-S35-Mini-Kineraw-Camera"]http://www.bmcuser.com/showthread.php?1966-S35-Mini-Kineraw-Camera[/url]

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Interesting... Do you know what this "CR podcast" is?

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Could be the fxguide.com RC podcast from this week, its mentioned in passing, they query framerates, thats about it other than brief discussion on raw DNG, confusion over that and Cineform.

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I'm testing the Ikonoskop tomorrow :)

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Right on. You're having a lot of fun with these different cameras. By the way, check if any moire on some bikinis. My wife will hate me for that one. Cheers. :)

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This footage looks great. I don't know much about this camera aside from the fact that it has a 35mm sensor opposed to BMC's M43(ish) sensor. From this short, i almost like its image better than the BMC's... I emailed Kinefinity about it. I'm hoping it won't be Kinemag Proprietary, and you can use third party ssd's like the bmc. It's also only 2k, and cost $3000 more than the Bmc.

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Germy1979,
There's talk of a smaller size version of the Kineraw S35 - same sensor, but more compact. It supposedly will have no fan. It will cost around $4000? The Chinese are clever and are very capable to develop. I wouldn't doubt a prototype is working. It seems they are listening to what people want. In the past there was talk of 4k too. Interesting times.

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Alexa like? This video looks way worse than what we have seen previously. Was it supposed to be that flat?

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Footage isn't color graded. Look at the overall look. Organic and has a filmic appearance. Highlight rolloff not a dslr look.

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[quote name='FilmMan' timestamp='1353530379' post='22077']
Footage isn't color graded. Look at the overall look. Organic and has a filmic appearance. Highlight rolloff not a dslr look.
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It says on Vimeo that it was lightly graded.

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[quote name='FilmMan' timestamp='1353514109' post='22070']
Right on. You're having a lot of fun with these different cameras. By the way, check if any moire on some bikinis. My wife will hate me for that one. Cheers. :)
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Bikinis in November in Berlin? Erm I will try my best :) We're going to do more studio based tests with proper actors. I'm bored of scenery.

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[quote name='EOSHD' timestamp='1353536427' post='22085']
Bikinis in November in Berlin? Erm I will try my best :) We're going to do more studio based tests with proper actors. I'm bored of scenery.
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Yay Finally!

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[quote name='EOSHD' timestamp='1353504320' post='22066']
I'm testing the Ikonoskop tomorrow :)
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Hi Andrew. Please can you do me a favor and test it with a century style anamorphic on a 16/25mm taking lens? I'd be interested to see how this adaptor works on a 16mm sensor..

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Love the image this camera produces (the intercut slow-mo footage really makes it shine that little bit more) & of course, it costs more.

Really interested to see what Andrew makes of the Ikonoskop.

Digital Bolex will be very interesting once they've finished tinkering.

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Comments on Vimeo indicate the slow motion was shot on a FS700. I find that very interesting since I didn't notice any shift in image quality between the shots.

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[quote name='HurtinMinorKey' timestamp='1353527556' post='22076']
Alexa like? This video looks way worse than what we have seen previously. Was it supposed to be that flat?
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Some of the shots do look kind of flat yes. I have a prediction: Now that we are getting cameras with all this dynamic range shot in flat profiles, I bet we will be seeing a lot more flat looking footage. I think there will be a tendency to avoid crushing and burning so much because people will want to show all that latitude that people will leave it more flat then anything else. In some ways I see this as a good thing. Frankly, I'm totally sick to death of the current "Film" look with the over bearing crushed blacks and desaturated orange and blue cast. I'm sure this more subtle grading will eventually even out though and turn into something interesting. We'll have to see what happens though.

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Shooting flat in harsh sunlight is one thing, doing it on a cloudy day, i dunno.

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KineRAW (tm) cameras to be shown at booth C12813 at NAB 2013 in Las Vegas

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Got word from Kinefinity.com (sm) that they will be going to NAB 2013 in Las Vegas (in April),

http://www.nabshow.com/

Quote: [Our booth number in this coming NAB is C12813.]

So if you have wanted some 'hands on' time with their cameras, this will be the first time they are showing them outside China as far as I know.

I've been shooting some additional test footage with both the KineRAW-S35 (tm) and the prototype KineRAW-S8p (tm) and may post that on my Vimeo page when I get it edited together.  They are working on a demo reel for showing at NAB 2013, so if you have any suggestions of shots you would like to see you can email them and ask them to have one of their field testers shoot something like what you would like to see maybe so that when you go to NAB 2013 you can see how it turned out.  They said they will have cameras there you can look over, and maybe the KineRAW-S35-mini (tm) they are still working on, its a smaller version with the same high quality 100% true RAW DNG recording and S35 sensor with sub-PL mount for using a wide range of movie and still lenses, as I understand it, you can email them for detailed specs if you are interested.

Also the MSRP and shipping should be lower for the KineRAW-S35-mini (tm).  So jot down booth C12813 if your going to NAB this year and say high, they have been developing these cameras for many years, and the larger KineRAW-S35 (tm) has been in field testing in China (in addition to the one I got to do calibrations in the monitoring with).  They said they are very busy putting cameras together to ship out, so, so far things seem to be going well for them.

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You cannot judge the quality of the images from the KineRAW-S35 â„¢ based on looking at some H.264 version, the raw data holds so much detail that some skill is required to blunt it enough to get compressed versions, using Cineform â„¢ YUV is a much better option for PC playback.

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