new camera purchase

[kye]

12 hours ago, maxJ4380 said:

Plus there's the fact my dad had a stroke 2 weeks ago and is paralyzed on the right side

Really sorry to hear about this, hopefully it's temporary, the body can be more resilient than we think so fingers crossed for you and your family.

12 hours ago, maxJ4380 said:

I have yet to try 8k and to me 8k, seems like complete overkill.  I dont mind 4k reduced down to 1080 the stills seem a little sharper / cleaner perhaps. Although @kye might be a  little nonplussed about that 😉

Everything is a look, and there are no right or wrong answers...  I just take exception with the people who run around telling people that the look of cinema is 8K and razor sharp F1.4 prime lenses and "accurate" colour science.  Sadly, there are so many of these people sitting around repeating this BS to each other that common sense is hardly able to be heard above the cacophony, and when it is heard the mob chases those voices from the discussion for fear they'll realise they've wasted all their money and spent years sitting around looking like idiots when they could have realised it with a few downloaded reference images and 20 minutes in Resolve!
Then the new people come in and see all the "experts" saying these things and because it's overwhelming they have to just swallow a bunch of it because no-one can possibly analyse and check every detail of what they're being told.

[maxJ4380]

On 7/1/2026 at 12:19 PM, kye said:

Really sorry to hear about this, hopefully it's temporary, the body can be more resilient than we think so fingers crossed for you and your family.

Everything is a look, and there are no right or wrong answers...  I just take exception with the people who run around telling people that the look of cinema is 8K and razor sharp F1.4 prime lenses and "accurate" colour science.  Sadly, there are so many of these people sitting around repeating this BS to each other that common sense is hardly able to be heard above the cacophony, and when it is heard the mob chases those voices from the discussion for fear they'll realise they've wasted all their money and spent years sitting around looking like idiots when they could have realised it with a few downloaded reference images and 20 minutes in Resolve!
Then the new people come in and see all the "experts" saying these things and because it's overwhelming they have to just swallow a bunch of it because no-one can possibly analyse and check every detail of what they're being told.

I’m just doing a bit of light stirring, I think you can handle it ok. I wouldn’t have bothered if I thought otherwise. 
 

Now a question for the group. I would like to film some smoke, I presume in front of a green screen although green colour may or may not work.

i do have smoke machine  to create the smoke and I think the best option would be to video it as I think a bunch of photos would not give me the smoothness I’m looking for, as i intend  to composite as a special effect.

im also wondering if i need to shoot a clean plate as well ? I suspect i need to watch a few more vids on compositing to help get my head around it. 

[kye]

1 hour ago, maxJ4380 said:

I’m just doing a bit of light stirring, I think you can handle it ok. I wouldn’t have bothered if I thought otherwise. 

No worries at all from me!

1 hour ago, maxJ4380 said:

Now a question for the group. I would like to film some smoke, I presume in front of a green screen although green colour may or may not work.

i do have smoke machine  to create the smoke and I think the best option would be to video it as I think a bunch of photos would not give me the smoothness I’m looking for, as i intend  to composite as a special effect.

im also wondering if i need to shoot a clean plate as well ? I suspect i need to watch a few more vids on compositing to help get my head around it. 

Compositing used to be only green screens, but now you can do it in lots of ways.

Considering that smoke is (mostly) colourless, you could just film against a black backdrop and then use the Add blending mode to put it on top of a shot.  The path to understanding compositing is to have a clear idea of what the different blend modes do mathematically and then you can film something to match the blend mode that you want to use.  You'd probably be better off using different modes and shooting setups for different things.

[maxJ4380]

I think i will need to watch a few tutorials. I have an idea at the moment but its  loosely defined, i need to pin it down somewhat, then do some testing.  

One thing i noticed today interestingly is, i initially had the new mission1 pegged as taller, wider and chunkier, however thats not the case, its the same height and thickness as the nine, it is about 10mm wider than the nine. Its deceptive when you look at by itself. Probably mostly down to the front lens housing i guess. I even thought the same about the batteries being different as they are calling the mission1 battery enduro2. Yet they are the same size, you would need a micrometer to find a difference. There must be some amazing tech improvements in batteries to increase the capacity but not the size.

By the way those craft cutting boards you get cheap at the $2 shops they make really good mouse mats and non slip, not too thick .  Pro tip 😉

 

 

[eatstoomuchjam]

4 hours ago, maxJ4380 said:

Now a question for the group. I would like to film some smoke, I presume in front of a green screen although green colour may or may not work.

i do have smoke machine  to create the smoke and I think the best option would be to video it as I think a bunch of photos would not give me the smoothness I’m looking for, as i intend  to composite as a special effect.

im also wondering if i need to shoot a clean plate as well ? I suspect i need to watch a few more vids on compositing to help get my head around it. 

As Kye said, you could also shoot it against a back background and key on luminance instead of color.

What would the purpose be of a clean plate in this case?

[maxJ4380]

Honestly... i don't know. I was coming at it from somewhat of an animation side of things as i know they used clean plates for various effects i think. im probably barking up the wrong tree. I need to do more research it would seem 

[eatstoomuchjam]

Usually a clean plate is useful for things like subtracting objects from the scene or similar things.  Once you erase the thing, you need the stuff that should have been behind it. 

If your goal is just to key out the smoke from one scene and add it to another, I can't think of why you'd need it.  Though I'm no VFX expert so I'm fully prepared to be wrong!