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GH2 vs 50D ML Raw?


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Hey guys, 

 

I'm looking for some advice here on what is probably a pretty unimportant decision! I'm pretty much a hobbyist who likes to make short films and take photos. In the past I've had full frame Canons (pre ML Raw) and although the stills were incredible, the video was pretty lacklustre.

 

After a bit of research, and the want to free up a bit of cash, I sold the Canon stuff and bought a GH2 and a Sigma 18-35mm f1.8. This set up produces some really nice video with a HBR hack but the stills I'm getting, even with the one native lumix lens I have, don't do anything for me at all. This has made me interested in getting back in the Canon game since everything shot on ML Raw I've seen is very nice!

 

Would it be a step backwards in video quality for me to sell the GH2 set up and buy a 50D and a 35L - with the view of staying within the Canon brand, should I want to spend big money on a set up again (Like a 5D3). Or with all the advances in m43 stuff like the GH4 and the BMD cameras, is m43 a better system to currently be in? 

 

I know this post reaks of GAS, and I guess that is a big part of it but who doesn't like to indulge their hobby once in a while :) 

 

If you guys have any other suggestions, my budget is probably looking like around £1000 including a lens since thats pretty close to what I'd get for the GH2 and Sigma etc.

 

Hope this is in the correct place, thanks!

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Your Sigma is in Canon mount?

If yes you could try a APS Canon body and see how it goes- If you don't like it Canon is a easy sell.

If not you could take a GX7 which is a far better photo camera than the gh2 and takes very good videos too.

Low light capability and colors of this new sensor are simply great.

ML raw is pretty difficult to handle. I would ignore it.

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Hey, thanks for the reply! It's nikon mount so I could change aperture with a metabones adapter. I don't know if I'm sold on the thought if having 2 bodies right now, although samples from the GX7 look good! I think the GH2 is fuller featured for video what with the hacks etc.

Is magic lantern really that difficult? I've looked at it briefly before only for focus peaking in live view!

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The 50D raw is very cumbersome, no sound, and a lot more inconveniencies. I bought one to try raw but I'm going to sell it again as it's gathering dust at home.

The gh2 is much better, if you want raw get the bmpcc with speedbooster (although that's already past your budget)

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Flip I didn't expect to hear that araucaria! Did you think the quality was noticeably better or just not enough to justify the annoying workflow?

 

I don't have a gh2, but I have seen a lot of videos and they look "great" to me, some say it's videoish but I think you can work around it by planning better your shots and scenes.

I liked the 50D video, the motion blur of uncompressed files is great (although some people say the motion looks so so because the camera gives 30p and the 24fps mode is just some sort of hack). There is also moirée, you can sort of fix it in post but it's not always an option. You can also film in 2,4x something crop mode (5x zoom) wich is an effective 4x crop mode over Full Frame, this gives you full 1080p without moirée but turns your 50mm 1.4 into a 200mm 5.6, so you will need a 12mm f4 that will become an effective 48mm f16, not so great eh. In crop mode with 1080p you will get around 2000-3000frames, something like 2minutes.

The big plus is color and highlight recovery, but that's it. I like some stuff I shot with it, but only because of the colors/looks I achieved, the shots themselfs are shit because it's just not confrotable to shoot.

In the end it's just too many inconvieniences, Personally I can't shoot something while thinking of technical stuff that has nothing to do with image creation. Looking at the buffer, filling the card while shooting, review stuff looking at pixelated shit,etc...

On the 50d there is also no sound... the controls are horrible. And your harddrive full of terabytes of raw videos.

I would go through all that stuff, but with the 5d mkiii. The quality that the 50D gives is just not good enough, and it's not full frame (I only have full frame glass, beside one shitty DX wideangle). 

Do whatever you want with your GH2, just don't buy a 50D. The 50D is for photographers.

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