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    24p is outdated

    In: Cameras

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    Let's be reasonable!

    4K/8K is quite far from cinema...a good FHD is softer and creamier with an FF sensor and an old lens...etc.
    It's not a few extra images that change much: real cinema isn't silent cinema in black and white with a real piano in the room? Lol 

    Tell me, have you tested when you lose the cinematic sensation: at 25p, 26p, 27p, 28p ...29.5p ..more?! Please, it's not a bit ridiculous...who decides, is it you?
    Is slow motion filmed in 60p 120p no longer cinema? : no, stop, we have to wait for the film to return to the original 24p !? Amusing .

    Cinematic rendering is a personal matter. Sometimes old high-budget films on silver film then remastered have a very clean rendering, but not sharp...very beautiful, very cinematic visual experiences

    Cinema is just an illusion that arouses passions and 24p is a matter of broadcasting habits and laziness... and for TV broadcasting everything has to be readjusted,  so 24p disappears.
    For video games it's only cartoons so the cinema experience here, I don't understand, it's irrational !?

    Now if you are a purist, only go to cinemas and choose those where you are sure of the broadcast quality... but don't force anyone to only see 24p which jerks at the slightest important panning.

    To say that 24p will disappear one day is not important, just a provocation... perhaps it will happen, I am neither for nor against it?

    24p is outdated

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    I always like your reasonable comments so continue to post things that I don't like..this allows dialogue. thank you

    On the other hand, the title is indeed 24 p... it's so stupid to believe that this is what makes the magic of cinema that it's something to laugh about... it's so much more complicated.

    There are even some who believe that in 25p it's still a camcorder and in 24p one image less and watch.... I make cinema (lived experience)...

    A lot of crazy in the field of creation and audiovisual is no exception: light / lens / ... play a much more important role.

     I understood that you are following another idea from the discussion

    Have a nice day and continue to share your wise thoughts 👍

    24p is outdated

    In: Cameras

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    On 05/12/2023 at 06:56, kye said:

    Pour ceux qui pensent que ce genre de choses est uniquement destiné à Hollywood et au cinéma, c'est bien vivant dans le monde de YT. Voici une vidéo de Natalie Lynn. C'est un excellent exemple de techniques de réalisation de films appliquées à la vidéographie personnelle de voyage, et elle est très émouvante d'une manière qu'une caméra impartiale ne peut pas réaliser.

    et voici une interview et un aperçu de la production sur la façon dont il a été créé :

    Spoilers : il comprend un éclairage spécial, elle a acheté une machine à fumée, a passé un temps ridicule au montage, et plein d'autres choses. Il faut beaucoup de travail pour que les choses paraissent sans effort.

    Personally I find it quite shitty... Wanting to make films is a bit pitiful, but is it possible to film cleanly?

    Ok a lot of self-sacrifice but if it's making cinema (speech/story lousy, image deliberately degraded to make... "eh I'm making cinema well yes it's 24 p"

    Not held for more than 5 minutes,  mental age 12 years max 

    This doesn't make me dream at all... a lot of empty talk to say I'm doing cinematics.

    Sorry ..

    Panasonic G9 mk2

    In: Cameras

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    Yes  strongly that CineD publishes its report on the dynamics and its crash test...

    "The GH6's special Dynamic Range Boost function is now even permanently activated and turns off automatically from 60 fps. So the G9II and GH6 should currently be able to offer the best dynamic range of any MFT camera on the market. "Slashcam

     

    Panasonic G9 mk2

    In: Cameras

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    If you focus on stability and autofocus and wide angle, cheaper and lighter lenses...the G9 II surely ?

    Otherwise if the sensitivity and creative capabilities of the FF interest you the S5 II , but overall it will be more expensive and bulky... 

    And wait for in-depth tests on the sensitivity of the G9II ?

    Panasonic G9 mk2

    In: Cameras

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    I don't really understand your intervention here...it should be in a topic dedicated to desires, dreams...I'm absolutely not asking all of that from a G9...you have to change the range of device.

    Good day 

    Tascam announces a new updated "Pro" model of the Tascam DR10L for US$219 that includes timecode support

    In: Cameras

    Posted

    On 7/9/2023 at 3:58 AM, IronFilm said:

    Such as a desire to not be fired from my job!

    32bit is not acceptable from a PSM on normal usual professional shoots. 

     

    Do you think that everyone who uses 32bit Float works under the same conditions as you? You just gave the answer..it's no..they would be unemployed.

    Besides, would they come here to ask for advice on the use of 32 Bit float ?  No also

    So all the others can use the 32 bist float ... the microphone is no more a brake in 24 bits than in 32 bits Float you explained it very well.

    But in 24 bits you can use a limit which is another more classic way to secure your sound ... and there is no need for 32 bit float but everyone chooses their method.

    For me it is now very clear .... a big thank you for your help

    Tascam announces a new updated "Pro" model of the Tascam DR10L for US$219 that includes timecode support

    In: Cameras

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    2 hours ago, IronFilm said:

     With only a little bit of experience you can get the gist of it right. 

    This is for me the definition of a good sound engineer.

    Here is a discussion on the same subject (32 bits Float) in French with some old and good sound engineer...:  "Not revolutionary but makes good service "    I like this conclusion... https://www.repaire.net/forums/discussions/le-32-bits-a-virgule-flottante-en-question.292069/#post-1970448138

    After each one chooses the right tool for him according to the moment and there are many tools which use the 32 bits floating point comme le Zoom F2, Zoom F3.... or SoundDevice MixPre 10 II (not really amateur) , MixPre 3 II , MixPre 6 II  ou encore  Tentacle Track E - Timecode Audio Recorder... Tascam is the least  to day ?

    it is not a gadget and it is limited only by the one who places his microphone,  not by the microphone itself (or we do not know how to choose it and place it... SPL 120 dB is already good for many situation ). ..

    If we take that into account,  there is no reason not to use 32 bits float...

    Thanks for your kind reply and good day...👍

    Tascam announces a new updated "Pro" model of the Tascam DR10L for US$219 that includes timecode support

    In: Cameras

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    3 hours ago, IronFilm said:

    This is one of the many reasons why 32bit is so utterly pointless on professional film sets, and why not a single professional recorder on the planet supports 32bit recordings, because there is no demand for it. 

    Ok i am agree whith you,  of course it's better to use a sound engineer who monitors perfectly

    So I'm going back to my idea,:  with the same usual microphone in solo and well placed, the 32 bits will avoid a backup sound recording under modulated for example. (in report)...

    But I understand that for you it's more a problem than a help..

    Thanks for your kind reply

    Tascam announces a new updated "Pro" model of the Tascam DR10L for US$219 that includes timecode support

    In: Cameras

    Posted

    15 hours ago, Marcio Kabke Pinheiro said:

    But if the sound already comes clipped from the microphone (recording a loud concert that exceeds the SPL of the mic), the recovering of the clipping is impossíble, right?

     

    10 hours ago, IronFilm said:

    Correct.  You need to find a mic that can handle that high SPL.

    I don't understand ?!
    If you use a classic recorder, it will be the same because the modulation is done at the preamp level of the recorder... right?

    The 32-bit float records automatically by sub-modulating and is recovered afterwards in post production ... like a log with limits, the limits of the sensor.

    Thanks

    Fx30

    In: Cameras

    Posted

    On 4/18/2023 at 2:48 PM, Django said:

    Those attributes go without saying but I disagree about motion being "negligible for the viewer". 

    If you have a +120hz TV from Samsung or LG its quite easy for you to test: activate clear motion (which artificially doubles the frame rate) on your favourite indie classic and watch it get ruined with disgraceful soap-opera effect.

    You talked about emulation nothing to do with what was filmed ... it's your TV the problem turn it off

    So a film shot in 24p on Osmo Pocket on your weekend purchases is more cinematic than a film shot with a Full Frame camera in 50 or 60p in Log...?!?

    I think you should open a new topic on it... and have a good day

    Fx30

    In: Cameras

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    On 4/18/2023 at 2:48 PM, Django said:

    Those attributes go without saying but I disagree about motion being "negligible for the viewer". 

    If you have a +120hz TV from Samsung or LG its quite easy for you to test: activate clear motion (which artificially doubles the frame rate) on your favourite indie classic and watch it get ruined with disgraceful soap-opera effect.

    You talked about emulation nothing to do with what was filmed ... it's your TV the problem turn it off

    So a film shot in 24p on Osmo Pocket on your weekend purchases is more cinematic than a film shot with a Full Frame camera in 50 or 60p in Log...?!?

    I think you should open a new topic on it... and have a good day

    Fx30

    In: Cameras

    Posted

    There are many factors that make a movie aesthetic
    Lens / light / sensor / Log or raw / shutter speed / framing / story / good actors / good direction of actors / editing / ... so the 24 p, the aspect ratio is quite negligible for the viewer.

    Picasso and Monet are not paintings because they are not like Leonardo da Vinci? ....is stupid.

     You prefer vertical 24p vs 60p wide ...? 😒

    The subject is the FX30 ... Peace and love 😄

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