MrSMW

3 cameras with some ‘extra unidentifiable mojo’ for me have been: OG Fuji X100 circa 2011 Fuji X Pro1 circa 2012 Nikon Zf 2024 There was just something very ‘filmic’ about those OG X100 files and when they were in focus, those of the Pro1 especially paired with the 60mm f2.4. The Zf I believe shares the same sensor with the Z6, Z6ii and Lumix S5, but not the S5ii. Most Nikonites it seems prefer it over the newer one in the Z6iii and with a lens such as the Voigt 40mm f1.2, is reckoned to be quite special indeed. I’m thinking about picking that one up in e Mount so I can then use it on both my Sony and Zf for low light and as a walkabout lens.

Cool thanks, I will watch shortly. I think for video, this is such a great bit of kit...but the S5II is and would be even better if it received the firmware from the S9. For stills though, I'd still have to hand it to the S5II just for the mech shutter but then I don't much care for the mech shutter on the S5II so please LUMIX, make me an S2R!! Feature-wise, this little bastard has quite a few things I'd like to see in a more pro body.

It's a good lens. I am currently trialling it adapted with full AF on my Zf because I am somewhat disappointed with the 'kit' 40mm f2 SE. Everything is a bit to mushy for my tastes...

Yes. That and the lack of IBIS. Makes zero sense against a used 100S and say the 45mm f2.8 + 80mm f1.7 (or 110 I think it is?)

OK, just looked it up on Fuji Rumors and because no IBIS and estimated cost, TBH, a used 100S with a pair of primes makes more sense at the likely price! So maybe not...

WHAT??!! Take my money 🤑 Well, as long as it has 65:24 X Pan crop mode, digital zoom and at least an f2.8 FF equivalent lens (an f2 40mm would be perfect thanks Fuji), IBIS (plus not a dealbreaker but ideally a flip out screen like the A7RV).

If I understood this correctly, with the S9 you can shoot both video and stills with TWO crop markers at the same time? Can anyone with an S9 confirm or deny. Ideally, I’d like to shoot raw + Jpeg but with X Pan mode on for stills, ie, the Jpegs would be 65:24 but the raw files 3:2. At the same time, I’d like to stick 4:5 crop guide on so I can keep my social media stills in mind (in post). With video, shoot 6k 30p open gate with 2x crop guides; one 65:24 and the other 9:16. Thanks in advance.

Actually, it would be worth me crossing the channel on the Eurostar to pick one up! What/where is that 25% off deal?!

Yes please. My 3 current zoom trio is their f2.8; 20-40, 28-75 and 70-180 and that was partly what sent me to Sony for my stills needs because they are just as real world good as their 24-70 and 70-200 counterparts, but much smaller and lighter. I really like the latest Sigma 70-200, but it's facking huge and heavy compared with the Tamron 70-180 and as above, real world, there's nothing in it image-wise. Samyang of course make their 35-150 equivalent in L Mount but it's too big for my tastes. If it was internal zoom, I could possibly make a case for it but anything over 1kg as a lens these days, is a hard no for me. I was always put off the f1.8's from Lumix though because they just look so dull and for the few primes I have had in L Mount, went with the f2's from Sigma with their metal build and aperture rings.

For that money, if I lived in the UK and could also get that 25% discount, I think I'd jump on one! But they do not ship to France and I'd be stung for customs duty. Fcuk Brexit 👺

Agreed. L Mount is pretty good now especially this year with the Sigma 28-45mm f1.8 and Sigma 28-105mm f2.8 becoming available and probable purchases for me in 2025. Pretty sure I am going to go for the 28-45 as I need something faster than f2.8 for low light work and though not as fast as the 50mm f1.2, has more practical real world use for me. The 28-105 I am still on the fence over and depends on whether an S2R appears. If it does, as a LUMIX version of the Leica SL3, then it’s a done deal and I will trade my Sony A7RV and 3x zoom lenses for that combo as it will cover 95% of my needs as a ‘one and done’ and that last 5%, at the extreme ends, will be my compromise. But if there is no S2R, then there will also be no 28-105 for me either because although it is available in Sony E Mount, I would rather have my smaller trio of Tamron zoom lenses for that compact Sony body. All pieces of the greater puzzle.

That is NUTS!

Well if I did an AI blend of my house with my shed and then set it on fire, I'd get pretty much that!

Always at the top of mine as soon as it gets past October. Still working on a plan to spend Jan-March in the Canary Islands every year... Camera-wise, an S2R please. Reality, a 6 pack of low cut black socks. Wife, daughter, 2 dogs and cat, in our Christmas themed timber shed. Was supposed to be Strasbourg/Colmar, but bigger than expected tax bill.

I need to stop reading about Fuji GFX100 cameras and checking prices on MPB…

I don’t understand why they haven’t already. It’s not as if they are a small company and I think are actually even slightly bigger than Sony? Surely with the boffins that they have, it’s a case of reverse engineer someone else’s internal ND and one of Sony’s sensors and then make your own version? Isn’t that formula exactly how Japanese companies got their start after WW2 by making knock off copies of Western manufactured items and in more recent times, China has taken over that role? Of course Japan has moved on to now make exceptional quality items and China is not far behind, but they started out a lot of their bigger manufacturing companies by copying. Or is it a case with Panasonic that their camera division, LUMIX, is too small and does not have the R&D budget for this? And if that is the case, sometimes you have to speculate to move ahead, ie, gain more market share and momentum. I have a theory about business that I have applied to my own for over quarter of a century and that is there are 3 types. Those that don’t do enough. They were and are fucked from the moment they started up. Those that give it 100%. They will never go beyond a certain point and sometimes even backwards because… The third type gives more than 100% simply in order to stand still and maintain market position and it’s only those that go well beyond 100% that actually truly succeed. Other than by chance (such as they are a bit shit but get a lucky hype break anyway). But what do I know…

I’ve been so tempted with a used OG GFX100 except for one thing and that is no AF zoom option outside of the native lenses which for me are either too big or too slow. Or both. Now if Fuji X was just full-frame instead of APSC… Nah, I’ll stick with my A7RV. S1R is a VERY good option for the price though 👍

I really wish they would bring that to Sony cameras. I have just bought a screen protector that I am going to tape up in that aspect ratio however as a ‘fix’.

^ Dirty Sony Talk ^ But as it’s Andrew’s site… 🫡

I should add that compared to the SL3, would I consider or go that route? At 7k for the body alone? Nope. For the same money, ie, if the SL3 was the same price as the A7RV used? Possibly/probably if only to scratch that Leica itch. But then for travel purposes, bigger camera and bigger lenses, so maybe not. It will be interesting to see if A. there is any kind of S2R and then B. what it is, but struggling to see past the A7RV right now for anything hi res and compact(ish).

I considered both for my needs and in the end went for something ‘in the middle’, the A7RV. And I can’t really fault it. It’s a much better piece of kit than the A7CR (better lens platform, vastly better rear screen, 2 card slots…) and not far off the 100mp sensor of the Fuji whilst being more compact and offering far more lens options, never mind the far superior AF. For travel, I’d say its case goes up even further based on the size and weight of the body and the lenses. I know one thing based on my most recent trip to Paris and that is I would not go out on any serious urban or landscape shoot without my 70-180 again. I have mine with the Tamron f2.8 trio of; 20-40, 28-75, 70-180 and when you also factor in one click switch to 26mp crop mode, the focal range and sheer quality of output from such a compact small bag set up, is bonkers. And cost-wise, all available on the used market at pretty decent prices. I think you could score the lot for around 5k not including anything you might sell to help fund it. Japan is No.1 on my bucket list. I would even need to think about what I’d take because it would be this body and 3 lens set up with one small bag.

Nope. I bought it as a pure stills machine and I will stop there so as not to pollute this thread with dirty Sony talk.

Agreed. Sold the S1H to find the A7RV. That is what I would also rather see; a 60mp and a 24mp model. Pretty much an instant sale for (to) me.

All of that is pretty much the S1H with the sensor from the SL3. Job done!

S1H level of build quality as a minimum including damped shutter button. Rear screen a la S1H. High res rear screen, unlike the S5ii which is ‘average’. Better AF than the S5ii which is ‘decent’ but no more than that. Full 6k 50/60p. 60mp for stills for both detail and ability to crop. Available March 2025 latest. S2H and S2R or one single camera, I don’t mind but they would have my money instantly. Rather than Nikon or Sony who almost certainly otherwise will. Bonuses, but not deal-breakers for me would be: Internal raw Some kind of ‘colour by Arri’ match up like Nikon/RED. That would really put LUMIX on the filmmakers map at least. Options that aren’t just fucking black! I mean I probably would go with black when it came to it, but a series of classy colours would give the thing more appeal to a wider demographic simply by having the option. But keep the colours the same as other models such as the S9 etc so folks can match their kit.