Video Hummus

I’m sure with this now being in A7SIII it will be integrated into resolve and premier. Seems like the future. Film in higher resolutions, with slightly higher shutter speeds, stabilize in post with 10% crop. Fine tune a few clips to fix the motion blur. Definitely cheeper than lugging around gimbal or some crazy expensive Arri glide can contraption.

@mechanicalEYE beta testing for Canon. Non of that behavior makes any sense especially since that same timer will decrease to zero with the camera not recording anything and sitting in a menu. Sounds like a bug in Canons cripple timer implementation.

Then there are some like Brandon Li that make their living with one or two cameras on gimbals with heavy use of AF. To each their own. I would rather have AF and hit the MF switch when I want to.

Yep, should be #1 priority. They have everything else. The specs seem really good. There has to be a firmware updating coming for the S1 series. No? They must have gotten the message that people want a smaller body. I’m really interested in what they will price this at and how big the body is, only because they might be using the same body for a GH6. Would make sense to unify the look and reduce costs. Just a theory. Personally, I don’t mind bigger MFT cameras. when you compare the size of GH5 and A7 cameras they are about the same. The GH5 even a bit chunkier, even. The G and GX cameras fill the compact MFT camera space for me. I’d rather have a pro MFT body that feels good in the hands and is jammed packed full of features and a companion G or GX camera to be my b-cam or light pack camera. Or its all a sign that they are dumping Pro MFT all together...

I heard it uses the highly technologically advanced Placebo affect to cool the camera! Cutting edge stuff!

Yeah, tiny bit worrisome they are releasing yet another FF camera that has a hard time competing at all. Same with the G100. Like, wtf.

Doesn’t seem to be temperature based at all. Too many contradictions. Its the CFExpress cards overheating. But it happens with SD cards too. Many cameras are recording to SD at high bitrates for a long time now. Its the sensor overheating. Yet the sensor can record for 45+ mins in 102F scorching sun in 4KHQ and then immediately afterwards the god timer says it can record 20mins. Yet from a cold start it can only record for 25mins. It’s the the DIGiC processor overheating. It could possibly be the codec compression that causes overheating. But again, doesn’t make sense consider the above three points. But then again, why are the timers the same when recording to SD card modes? Also, the camera overheats sitting in a menu with now codec compression or encoding going on at al!

Thank you those were good reads!

This is dead on. And people would have paid $1000 extra for the this “R5 C” just because it’s a Canon and had 8K RAW and 4K120p with the autofocus and clog3.

Brandon Li’s work. He is super pragmatic. Says the camera is an upgrade in almost every way for him (he is not a stills shooter). He didn’t use a PP either. I think the main highlight in this video though is the autofocus. It’s amazing!

They’ve put themselves in a box. I doubt it having better specs than S1 if it’s suppose to be entry level. FF 4K60p is a stretch unless they also add it via firmware to S1. Affordable L mount Lenses are still limited. They just released a “vlogging” camera that nobody really likes or wants. I have no clue why they are releasing a new model. Unless it’s a GX style FF camera, which would be appealing to some.

This could very easily turn into another G100 level blunder 🤦‍♂️

Something like this: if (HDMI_SIGNAL_OUT && (LCD_SCR_STATUS == OFF)) { CRIPPLE = false; { else{ CRIPPLE = true; }

Please inform these people immediately. They have been wasting their time! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Color_Encoding_System

Meanwhile, Andrew and many others are testing the camera to see what the real boundaries are. Heard of Magic Lantern? Lots of cameras capable of much more than what Canon chose to give you.

Yes, I don’t get all these color purists. We aren’t shooting 8-bit h264 anymore. Once you go above 8-bit color codec, excluding doing crazy color changes, you can pretty much match any camera you want with any other camera within a certain margin of error. Lets not forget of course that our eyes perceive color totally differently! Even further, individuals color “pleasing-ness” is such a deep rabbit hole as to make it impossible to say any camera has “the best color.” That leaves DR, highlight roll of, compression artifacts, and the mystical motion cadence as the biggest differentiators. You can tweak the highlight roll off a tiny bit, but not much. That is mostly down to how good the sensor is, ie 16-bit linear off an ARRI versus 12-bit or 14-bit log off of something like this A7Siii. And finally, if it’s not your job to get the best image you can on a multi-tens of millions of dollars movie and you are focusing so much on the colors out of your camera...you are optimizing the wrong thing my friend.

We can safety rule out the sensor heat as being the main culprit if people are able to record 4KHQ externally for hours on end. It is either something going on with the CFExpress cards getting to hot or some kind of timer that is started when they are inserted. The fact that the camera power cycles when the memory or battery doors open may be a hint that that may be the case. Please keep testing @Andrew Reid and @mechanicalEYE very helpful for people.

Yet it takes 1 hours of sitting with sensor exposed and battery out and card slot open to get 5 more minutes. Some serious bugs there.

We need to establish: using direct temperature readings as close to the cpu as possible, a graph comparing this direct temp reading to the EXIF temperature. This will tell us wether the EXIF temp is a reliable indicator. we need to chill the camera to the advertised coldest operating temperature and then turn it on to take a picture and see what the EXIF temp is reporting. It should be lower than what it reports at a cold start at 24C. If it isn’t...then something funky is going on. A graph of temperatures running in 4KHQ to shutdown and 8K to shutdown. If they aren’t pretty close to being the same. Something funky is going on. A graph of temperatures running in the 4K line-skipped mode compared to the the 4KHQ mode. If the graphs are the same. Something funky is going on.

I still think we need more tests performed well before we can conclusively say the timers and overheating warnings are BS.

You’re probably right. I was hoping and still hoping we can finally get a useable Canon hybrid camera out of this. I’m doubtful.

Funny how the laws of thermodynamics and physics work, eh? So many awesome things and cool technology we have today yet somehow those laws and physics are sucked into a black hole around the R5.... Its not the weather sealing insulating the camera, it isn’t the lack of heatpipe or heatsink to cool components, it isn’t the scorching hot ambient temperatures (or the freezing ones at that!), no its the classic, completely bizarre, canon cripple hammer coming down hard. I think they might be open to litigation. The overheating icon on the screen, the increasing evidence that the overheating issue is bogus, the complete lack or care to mitigate heat inside the camera. They have some explaining to do.

Yes. Someone needs to take the bloody back panel off without disconnecting the screen and be able to power the camera on and record 8K. Take that shit into a walk-in freezer at -4C or 0C with a fan and blow freezing temps over the back circuit board...if it overheats or doesn’t slow down any of the timers than the timers are a closed loop and temperatures do not effect them! Meaning, it’s all software regulated. If the internals being exposed to freezing temperatures doesn’t improve the “overheating” then Tilta’s stupid cooling kit is beyond ridiculous. The fact that there has been multiple independent test of the camera overheating roughly the same time in cold, hot, and extremely hot conditions tells me that the outside ambient temperature has nothing to do with the cool down timers at all. Period. Leave it in a fridge for 1 hour...I bet you it will tell you 5 mins of 8K left as well. Make sure to put a beer in there as well so you can drink it after your realize what your 4400 euros got you.

There is the possibility they will piss off their cinema customers. But I would think their cinema customers would be first in line to buy this camera if it did 4KHQ with a much shorter “recovery” time, or no recover time at all. I think the 4KHQ mode should be unlimited. It’s pretty blatantly obvious it is because magically plugging in a HDMI cable makes it possible.

Poor Tilta their product was a lie too!