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5 hours ago, hyalinejim said:

With the caveat, discussed here in some detail but mostly missed/ignored by YouTubers, that the human detect and face detect AF is problematic (randomly jumps from person to person and can't lock on to one person) when there are two or more people in frame.

But for repeatedly running towards and away from the camera in your own back garden, it's unbelievably good 😂

Yeah, the jumping from person to person is weird seeing as you could lock on 1 with the S5 and S1. They need to fix that.

12 hours ago, Geoffrey said:

I noticed the fan and actually this put me off a little as they can be noisy and I have mics on top of the cam. What's your experience?

I've never heard the fan come on but we've been having weird weather here in Madrid. Last year it was 37-40 degrees at this time of year, this year it's 22-27 degrees and lots of much needed rain. I'll find out more over the summer but the fan has controls. You can turn it off or adjust it.

Agree with kye. 
In my case the EVF, AF, punch in to check focus while recording and 6K were compelling reasons. The fan a bonus piece of mind although I’ve never had problems with over heating even when filming in 35-40 degrees for long periods of time.

17 hours ago, MrSMW said:

In other news, after cancelling my pair of S5iix preorders, I made a final (honest guv) decision re. final 2023 line up…and just ordered another (used) vanilla S5ii.

So cracked my 3 camera, no lens change matrix:

S5ii + Sigma 16-28 f2.8

S5ii + Sigma 28-70 f2.8

S1H + Lumix 70-200 f4 

Happy with that. And getting my black Sharpie out tomorrow 😬

How’s the Sigma 16-28? I’ve thought about getting for my video lens on the S5mk2. I shoot mainly 4k 50p at weddings so it’d be a 24-42 more or less which is fine for me as I prefer wider lenses for video.

The Sigma 28-70 would be my photo lens on the S5

Just to add, I’m doing a small hybrid wedding today, S5 photos and S5mk2 for video. I think eventually I will buy a second hand GX80 with a 12mm for a general 4k lock off ceremony cam which is small  to carry.

I am going to invest in those flip up filter things. I have the Xuma magnetic things which work fine with one camera but now I have a harness with 2 cams the VND has been knocked off a couple of times as it hung by my side!

I used to have a Nissan Serena with a bed in the back 2 rows. The best thing was it was discreet, it didn’t look like a campervan. Campervans are often targeted by thieves here in Spain. I need to check if I can get a mattress in the back of my Toyota Verso! 
I have to admire Mr. SMW. That’s a mad set up for one person!

Which side flipping filters are you using?

I'll be doing my 3rd hybrid wedding on Sunday but it'll be my first with the S5mk2. I don't over complicate things! If I have both cameras on me then the S5 is photo and the S5mk2 video. For ceremony, speeches (if there are any) and first dance the S5 will be locked off on a tripod and the S5mk2 will be hybrid. 

After using the S5mk2 for a couple of events I think it's going to make life quite a bit easier in a wedding scenario, mainly because of the AF and punch in to check focus when in manual. I'm enjoying the EVF, way better than the S5's.

On 5/24/2023 at 6:49 AM, MrSMW said:

Going with a pair of S5iix’s and a single S5ii was going to be it…and still maybe, but as I mentioned above, what am I really gaining over using my current set up for the cost to change of 3000-3500 euros? 

Uniformity across the bodies yes and is a big thing for me, plus full frame 6k rather than a mix of APSC and pixel:pixel not quite 6k (more like 5.4k) and less than stellar AF on all bodies, but I only need it in one and have it with the S5ii.

I’ll shut up now. I have gear to MacGyver… 😉

 

I guess one thing you'd gain with the newer S5mk2s and 2Xs is a lighter set up. That can be a big difference at a wedding. I've also noticed the AF is more reliable in Photo mode as well, it seems quicker and more accurate. 

I just sold my S1 and have bought a S5mk2 with a Sigma 28-70 f2.8. They have them as a pack here in Spain for 2590€. Pretty happy with the deal. Only had time to set up the camera a check a few things. But there are 2 things that I think I'm really going to like, the ability to punch in and check focus whilst filming and the EVF, which isn't as good as the S1's but it's way better than the S5's. I'll have to learn how to use the AF but so far it look pretty good. The lens looks great, nice and compact. I can see it being my main lens. If also means my back pack will weigh less as I'll use the 24-105 less and the S5 is a lot lighter than the S1. All good so far!

On 4/21/2023 at 9:05 PM, MrSMW said:

Yep, it’s a great little lens with a fantastic 27-75mm FF equivalent constant f2.8 aperture in a tiny package, currently welded to my S5ii.

How's the S5ii holding up on your wedding shoots? Are you enjoying using the camera and what you are getting out of it? Thanks!

Still no shutter angle?

15 hours ago, herein2020 said:

I tried to take pictures with my S5 but the EVF qualty was so bad that I never used it on a professional shoot. The S5 really cuts corners in the EVF and backscreen.

This has been my main problem with the S5. It's really difficult to see what you are doing. 

8 hours ago, deezid said:

Keep in mind that the S5II has wildly different color than the S1 and S5, which both looked identical.
Also the S5II has some image-processing related flaws which still need to be fixed. I'll hear from a person who is close to engineers soon hopefully wether this issue will be solved or not.
The banding artefacts are quite obvious in darker areas on the S5II, so in case you intend to do some lowkey style shooting you will run into problems.

To be honest I'm not a pixel peeper but I value many posters' opinions here. For me Panasonics have other advantages like their ergonomics. It'll be interesting to see what you get told about the image-processing.

The S5mk2 is on sale in Spain for 2,590€ with the Sigma 28-70 f2.8. There's also a 300€ cashback for trading in an old camera. I'll have to check if any camera will do (I have an old Lumix point and shoot). That's really good value especially once I discount the VAT. Canon and Sony are just way more expensive.

I like the written blogs, there are not many like yours. They are often worth reading whereas the videos get drowned out in the Youtube torrent.

There are some great options out there. I’m thinking of selling my S1, which I really like apart from the weight and AF, to get a S5mk2 for those very reasons. I really love my Panasonics, the only thing I have been missing was the AF (old eyes) and that seems to have been solved. I’ll keep my S5, even though I prefer the S1, as it makes more sense having 2 cameras the use the same batteries and cards.

Friends have the Canon R6 and it’s a great camera too. The R6mk2 looks even better other than the price.

The FX30 looks very interesting if you are only doing video although I can’t say I have enjoyed using Sonys.

2 minutes ago, MrSMW said:

The tilt screen is THAT important to me and how I prefer to work.

The same for me when doing video but...for workable AF I'd probably accept the side LCD as my eyes aren't getting any younger!

I really think they should have put the S1H's or GH6's LCD on the S5 mk2X.

Have you seen if the S5 mk2 has a faster write time to the cards?

I much prefer a centred LCD for video. I don't ming the flip LCD for photos but it's uncomfortable for video shooting.

2 hours ago, MrSMW said:

Yes and had it for a couple of weeks now. Had a little play but nothing more though it starts earning it’s keep in a couple of weeks.

I got it specifically for 3 reasons:

Reliable AF tracking for those few occasions on every job where I need that reliability.

No 30 minute timer, essential for me for longer wedding ceremonies and speeches.

Fan. Never had my S5 overheat, but then I used to use my S1H as my principal static unit.

I'm starting with hybrid weddings this year. Unlike you I come from a video background. I have the S1 and S5 and although they both produce the same excellent images, I find the S1 to be far better to use other than its weight. The EVF and LCD are very good which makes quick shooting much easier than on the S5. I find it to be faster when writing to the cards as well and the IBIS is better which is a real bonus in a wedding.

What intrigues me about the S5 mk2 is that it has the AF for when it's needed, it has 2 UHS-II SD card slots (should mean faster write times when switching between photo and video), better EVF and LCD (and punch in to check focus) and last but not least, the realtime LUTS. I believe you could have the photos and the videos with the same look straight out of the camera which should great. Have you tried that?

46 minutes ago, MrSMW said:

I have been eyeing up S1H’s today. Down well below 2k now on the used market.

Can I really chop in 2x S1R’s for another however and go down from 4 to 3 bodies as I’d like?

It’s just one single part (but the key one) of my job that currently stops me. At least without not having a fundamental compromise or more lens fiddling…

Did you get a S5 mk2? If so how are you finding it? 

6 hours ago, MrSMW said:

Nothing wrong with that.

In fact everything ‘right’.

If Panny had not brought out the S5ii when they did, I would have flipped to Sony and gone for a pair of FX30’s for video and an A7V for hybrid (but mainly stills).

No system is ‘perfect’ but if you can’t make any one of them work these days, it’s you, not the tools!

I would have done the same.

Anyone got any examples comparing the S5 and S5ii in Natural, CineD etc to see the difference? The S1 and S5 have a great image even in lowlight. I’d hope the S5ii was the same.

I don’t want to use Vlog all the time.

The 1.8 primes are very good. I have the 24 and 50 and as far as I’m concerned they are the best af primes for video that I’ve ever had. You can control focus throw and speed and breathing is pretty well controlled. But we all have our own standards that we judge our gear by.

How does the trade in work? Can you trade in any old camera?

6 hours ago, John Matthews said:

What about the higher frame rates? It's great that it has 4k 60fps (with crop), but we don't get much above 120fps. I imagine that's for a video flagship camera. ...not that I NEED any of that, but it's interesting.

Personally I’m not bothered about high frame rates. I’m all about ergonomics, image and reliability. The GH6’s LCD is a much better design giving much more flexibility.